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Oh one more question. It says it works with BluRay too. Can you confirm based on your experiences?
Yes with regular 1080p Blu-rays, though as I mentioned I've yet to try 4K (supposedly that works too with a specific drive on a specific firmware version).
 
2018/2019 models only. Apparently the restriction has something to do with the DRM Apple is using, not the hardware being incapable of playing the content itself. All Skylake and Kaby Lake Mac models should be capable of basic playback.
Wow, what a joke. Fat chance I'm going to drop $1,000+ because my previously capable machine is now software-limited to not play 4k (from the iTunes store). That's crazy.
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Yes with regular 1080p Blu-rays, though as I mentioned I've yet to try 4K (supposedly that works too with a specific drive on a specific firmware version).
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I used to have Silver Linings Playbook within iTunes/MA/Vudu.

I redeemed the digital copy into iTunes.
BUT now I don't. I don't see it in my library either on a Mac. not on my iPhone Library either. not sure about Apple TV Library but would think they'd be the same.

Bummer.

"Silver Lining Playback" is a Weinstein Co. title, previously Starz/Lionsgate, and has never been MA compatible.

You are correct about the old "digital copy version" (it's different than the current version available in the store) disappearing though. It's no longer in my library either.
 
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I used to have Silver Linings Playbook within iTunes/MA/Vudu.

I redeemed the digital copy into iTunes.
BUT now I don't. I don't see it in my library either on a Mac. not on my iPhone Library either. not sure about Apple TV Library but would think they'd be the same.

Bummer.
What a bummer. That movie is a gem.
 
So far it's the movies "Red" and "Source Code".....not 100% there aren't others now



I know there are options to back my stuff up but I sort of feel like I shouldn't have to...that there is a way for them to cover these bases for those that already bought something and still not sell it if and when they are no longer allowed to.



Wow...so they basically switched one version for another of the same thing and used that as a reason to force a repurchase? That is troubling...
I purchased Source Code on September 5th., went to watch it the next day, and received the "this item is temporarily unavailable" error. CHecked the iTunes Store and it was gone as well. Submitted a help request when the charged hit my account.

The first support rep said "I have placed a fresh copy of the movie in your library, below are the steps to download your purchase." I told him wasn't in the U.S. store, and he replied with a long reason.

I requested a refund and got it.
 
I purchased Source Code on September 5th., went to watch it the next day, and received the "this item is temporarily unavailable" error. CHecked the iTunes Store and it was gone as well. Submitted a help request when the charged hit my account.

The first support rep said "I have placed a fresh copy of the movie in your library, below are the steps to download your purchase." I told him wasn't in the U.S. store, and he replied with a long reason.

I requested a refund and got it.


Nice. They denied my request so I had to take it up with the credit card.
 
This is why Mac and Windows users have been putting their iTunes Library onto smart NASs! Then streaming their Libraries to their Apple TV!

My entire iTunes library as well as blu-ray rips in MKV format are stored on a Synology Diskstation NAS that has four 10 TByte drives.
 
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These days I usually just browse the discounted rentals on the iTunes store instead of buying movies.
I have many videos stored on hard disk that I watch on ATV via Homesharing on a Mac. I am concerned that future iTunes (Or Catalina equivalent) will drop support for Homesharing because it doesn't fit in with Apple's business model.
For those rare/classic movies that don't seem be be available on streaming services I have found CD Universe (based in Canada?) a reliable source for buying DVDs & Blurays.
 
Apple's decision to restrict 4K playback to current model Macs is just another reason physical media is still the way to go.
Assuming you are referring to 4K iTunes content, that cannot be played on any Mac, including the current models. Only Apple TV 4K, iPad Pro, and some smart TVs can currently play iTunes content in 4K.
 
Assuming you are referring to 4K iTunes content, that cannot be played on any Mac, including the current models. Only Apple TV 4K, iPad Pro, and some smart TVs can currently play iTunes content in 4K.
4K playback will be possible on 2018/2019 Macs after the release of Catalina which is about one month away. It will not be possible on earlier Macs according to Apple, which is a big disappointment to those of us who have been waiting patiently for 4K playback to finally come to the Mac.

I should also clarify that by "current models" I meant 2018 and later which is what Apple specifies. This excludes the 2017 iMac Pro which is a current model and includes the 2018 MacBook Air and MacBook Pro which are not current models.

Here is the exact quote (taken from https://www.apple.com/macos/catalina/):
4K, 4K HDR, 4K Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, and HDR10 content is available on all Mac models introduced in 2018 or later with 4K-resolution screens.
[doublepost=1568686276][/doublepost]The 2018+ requirement rules out all Macs that aren't based on the Coffee Lake architecture. Whatever DRM Apple is using is incompatible with Skylake and Kaby Lake Macs which would otherwise be able to play a non-DRM H.265 4K file. Potentially earlier Macs as well, though without hardware acceleration it's possible the video will be choppy on some or all of them.
 
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4K playback will be possible on 2018/2019 Macs after the release of Catalina which is about one month away.
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The 2018+ requirement rules out all Macs that aren't based on the Coffee Lake architecture. Whatever DRM Apple is using is incompatible with Skylake and Kaby Lake Macs which would otherwise be able to play a non-DRM H.265 4K file. Potentially earlier Macs as well, though without hardware acceleration it's possible the video will be choppy on some or all of them.
Interesting. But this actually makes sense, since Kaby Lake and later are the first Intel chips to support GPU acceleration for "premium" (== DRM encrypted) 4K, so this is likely a hardware limitation imposed by the rights holders. Honestly I'm surprised that they allow 4K streaming on computers at all.
 
Wow I'll say.....how do you manage swapping the drives while (I'm assuming) using Home Sharing?
I use an app called DVDpedia to catalogue my films and play them (select in DVDpedia and it opens the file in VLC)

One of the main benefits to finally going digital was that I wouldn't have to hand hold my hobby. Buy a movie when it's cheap, stream it weeks\months\years later if and when we wanted to watch it. No more searching for discs, etc. As a huge movie buff it was hard to convince myself to lose the Video quality but something had to be done. 1/4 of my office was nothing but tubs of movies. I should have had my own TLC hoarding special..

Even with the largest External HDD I'd eventually find myself having to move the files\libraries around. I did some quick calculations based on the file sizes for the tv shows and movies we own shown in iTunes and I would need about 10TB(Edit: my math is\was way off on that estimate...it's late lol) as of right now...there is 200 bucks right off the bat.. and that's assuming I never buy another thing

...it's a hassle. Then there is the already mentioned issue that I can't download in 4K....

I'm fully aware that this is more than likely temporary since the missing movies are big budget movies from a large studio; they'll more than likely be back but this has certainly opened my eyes to how "buying" something works from iTunes. I may have no choice to start downloading the things we buy and use home sharing to protect my investment...just feels like I'm swapping one chore(physical media management) for another.... Brings up an interesting question: if I download a copy of a movie that is eventually removed from the store will I still be able to play it without any DRM issues?
I hear ya; I don’t know how much I’ve spent on Rubbermaid containers! I don’t mind doing the ripping and all that’s involved, but I don’t fault people who want to skip the whole process, either. And it is dumb! that Apple will tell you to download and back up purchased films to secure them but then not allow users to do just that with 4K. Maybe it’s the studios, maybe it’s Apple, either way it leaves the users in a bad place.

Maybe someone has answered this already, but I believe from what I’ve read here and other places that you’ll always be able to watch a downloaded film, even if it’s been removed from the store. It works that way with music.
 
I believe from what I’ve read here and other places that you’ll always be able to watch a downloaded film, even if it’s been removed from the store. It works that way with music.

Yes, I tried that with a movie that I own but isn't currently for sale on the store. It played over home sharing just fine. I'm going to have to give considerable thought to actually backing up all of our purchases. I can get a 12TB hard drive for few hundred bucks...


I heard back from Lionsgate; they know of no reason those movies are not for sale. They did direct me to where I can buy the blu ray lol
 
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Would you tell me which software you use for this? The only experience I have trying to rip purchased DVD's is from the mid 2000's, and let me tell you that software was horrrrrrible.
MakeMKV. In my opinion, it’s the only way to go. After you’ve got the files ripped you can use MKVToolNix to add or edit audio track names, subtitle names, cut excessive black from the start or end, or even join two files into one, e.g. make The Fellowship of the Ring a single, long film instead of two files with the "insert next disc" title card.
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Oh one more question. It says it works with BluRay too. Can you confirm based on your experiences?
In my workflow that’s all I use it for. I use different software for DVD, though MakeMKV will work with both. Currently there’s still some finessing to be done for 4K discs, but the author is working on making it seamless as well.
 
I got the it's the fault of the "content provider" when I complained about Source Code as well. I'm not buying it. Probably someone in IT accidentally deleted them, turned off a server or something like that. Hopefully they get enough complaints to actually do something about it.
 
Yes, I tried that with a movie that I own but isn't currently for sale on the store. It played over home sharing just fine. I'm going to have to give considerable thought to actually backing up all of our purchases. I can get a 12TB hard drive for few hundred bucks...


I heard back from Lionsgate; they know of no reason those movies are not for sale. They did direct me to where I can buy the blu ray lol

Considering that it is very very rare for the films to truly disappear, can you not simply back up just the films that you truly adore? I ask that as I've bought films from iTunes that I've only watched once and then thought 'damn, why did I buy that?' (usually because it was cheaper than renting it). The films that I truly love - maybe 10 I actually keep downloaded on my MacBook as well as TimeMachine back ups and then others are backed up using TimeMachine but many others aren't downloaded and backed up.

Chances are though that your Harddrive back up will probably brake before Apple removes your favourite films.
Seems silly to buy a 12TB hardrive especially as a few hundred bucks is a lot of money. MAYBE you should send Eddy Cue and Tim Cook the invoice from that as it's their arrogant mistakes that has spoiled the experience for you.
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I got the it's the fault of the "content provider" when I complained about Source Code as well. I'm not buying it. Probably someone in IT accidentally deleted them, turned off a server or something like that. Hopefully they get enough complaints to actually do something about it.

That's EXACTLY the impression that i'm under - some fool is deleting the files when they shouldn't be! They seem so arrogant though. When I got a refund for Notting Hiill because their was a horrible lip sync issue, the staff weren't interested and couldn't care a damn to rectify the problem. They are still selling the film probably with the same fault!
 
Maybe someone has answered this already, but I believe from what I’ve read here and other places that you’ll always be able to watch a downloaded film, even if it’s been removed from the store. It works that way with music.
Yes. Even my downloaded file of Red (which has been removed not only from the store but also my library) still plays fine. The only requirement is that the computer is "authorized" for your account.
 
The two films mentioned here were both part of those bundle packs that were for sale a few weeks ago. Someone removed the bundles and removed the films connected. Both red and red 2 were together, only red 2 is listed. But on google a quick search brings up red 1 main page saying connect to itunes. When you do that only the film is in Australia. This is an easy fix on Apple's side and is not because a company removed the films for purchase.
 
The two films mentioned here were both part of those bundle packs that were for sale a few weeks ago. Someone removed the bundles and removed the films connected. Both red and red 2 were together, only red 2 is listed. But on google a quick search brings up red 1 main page saying connect to itunes. When you do that only the film is in Australia. This is an easy fix on Apple's side and is not because a company removed the films for purchase.

If Red 1+2 were bundled together, what movie was Source Code bundled together with?
 
If Red 1+2 were bundled together, what movie was Source Code bundled together with?
It was on sale, in one of the cheap sections, not specifically bundled with another film but was bundled in a price change area. There's those graphics that say 4.99 films/5.99/6.99... etc.. I see others are also have the same issues on reddit with films that were in those sections. So either someone removed them due to copyright restrictions.. which is usually temporary.. or someone messed up and instead of changing prices back deleted bundled sections. It's an issue.. but this stuff has happened before and films end up back in accounts. It's the extras of the films that are usually removed by the content provider. Guess we shall see which it is this time.
 
In my workflow that’s all I use it for. I use different software for DVD, though MakeMKV will work with both. Currently there’s still some finessing to be done for 4K discs, but the author is working on making it seamless as well.
You've been able to successfully read a 4K disc using MakeMKV? I'm going to try this myself once I get a compatible drive which can be flashed to a compatible firmware version according to the MakeMKV forum post.
 
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It was on sale, in one of the cheap sections, not specifically bundled with another film but was bundled in a price change area. There's those graphics that say 4.99 films/5.99/6.99... etc.. I see others are also have the same issues on reddit with films that were in those sections. So either someone removed them due to copyright restrictions.. which is usually temporary.. or someone messed up and instead of changing prices back deleted bundled sections. It's an issue.. but this stuff has happened before and films end up back in accounts. It's the extras of the films that are usually removed by the content provider. Guess we shall see which it is this time.
Apple seriously need to get their act together. This is a quality control issue and a mistake that is effecting customers resulting in very poor PR for Apple.
It's about time they sorted this mess out it's been going on for many years.
 
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You've been able to successfully read a 4K disc using MakeMKV? I'm going to try this myself once I get a compatible drive which can be flashed to a compatible firmware version according to the MakeMKV forum post.
I don’t have one of the needed drives, so no, I haven’t yet ripped a 4K disc. I’ve been following the discussions and hoping that the universal workaround comes quickly!
 
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