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Well now you tell me! I can’t begin to count the catastrophes that have resulted from the 0.2-second error over a month with my quartz watch.

Lives… ruined.



The fallacy is that you posit first that one depends on their phone. Maybe there’s a bigger issue in such cases. No wonder all our ancestors died.

Have no idea what you just said or referring to.

For my part in all this, I simply said that the watch prevents you from having to continually consult your phone.
 
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Well now you tell me! I can’t begin to count the catastrophes that have resulted from the 0.2-second error over a month with my quartz watch.

Lives… ruined.

You said your watch was better as a watch. It isn‘t.

The fallacy is that you posit first that one depends on their phone. Maybe there’s a bigger issue in such cases. No wonder all our ancestors died.

We „posit“ nothing. Those are just (sad) facts.
 
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The fallacy is that you posit first that one depends on their phone. Maybe there’s a bigger issue in such cases. No wonder all our ancestors died.
You haven't seen our society within the past 10-15 years? 😆

I've seen it predicted (probably accurately) that the worst damage an enemy could wreak on our society would be to take down the cellular network. There would be absolute mass panic and hysteria from people who had no idea how to function without a phone.
 
You haven't seen our society within the past 10-15 years? 😆

There’s been talk about the “return to the dark ages” catastrophe, and I really can’t wait to see it. Even if it’s just a day-long event, it will be worth watching. The memes alone would be worth the drinking-your-own-wee outcome.

If accidentally leaving a Product at home can cause a panic and crisis event, I don’t like the direction this society is going.
 
There’s been talk about the “return to the dark ages” catastrophe, and I really can’t wait to see it. Even if it’s just a day-long event, it will be worth watching. The memes alone would be worth the drinking-your-own-wee outcome.

If accidentally leaving a Product at home can cause a panic and crisis event, I don’t like the direction this society is going.
It would definitely be interesting (and very revealing), in a macabre sort of way!

I'm 60 - I lived a lot of my life without a cell phone, but I'll admit I've gotten used to the convenience. Having a cell phone is a luxury, a smartwatch even more so. It's certainly no panic or crisis if I happen to leave it at home - I'm mildly annoyed, then I get on with whatever I went to do.
 
There’s been talk about the “return to the dark ages” catastrophe, and I really can’t wait to see it. Even if it’s just a day-long event, it will be worth watching. The memes alone would be worth the drinking-your-own-wee outcome.
How would you watch it as it happened?
 
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Solar powered. 10-month standby once charged. I’ve worn these for about seven-years now and never had one die, and I don’t change my daily behavior in any way to maintain them.

I don’t have to charge it over-night. It doesn’t light up, vibrate, open apps or do derpy butt-dial things under any circumstances. Not when I’m washing my hands, in physical contact with others, nor falling asleep with it on will it do ANYTHING I do not intend. It also doesn’t get interrupted when I just want to see the time. It displays the time every second of operation. I don’t have to tap it, tilt it, or use some tacky unrefined gestures to show the watch face. I can even tell time while it’s on the counter and I’m not even touching it, even in direct sunlight! During calls, texts, FaceTime or music streaming I can count on it without the most minute of second thoughts.

It’s second-nature now. What time is it? Ah, there it is. Amazing to receive information 100% of the time, in every occasion, without distraction, obstruction or bother.

Amazingly, I never have to wonder if it has connected to a wireless source to update the time. When beginning or ending DST, I know what time it is because I know it didn’t shift over-night. I can say the same when crossing time-zones. Isn’t it frustrating when you have to check that your devices updated, and some devices have but others are lagging? Think no-more. You can rest assured that no matter where you go, or what day it is, the time is set to whatever YOU last set it to. “Oh crap I guess my watch didn’t update. Wait did it? Hold on. What time is it here?” Yeh, I’ve never had that happen when wearing a watch. I know I crossed a time-zone, I know to add or subtract an hour from my local time, the end. Meanwhile, I’ve checked my iPhone repeatedly to see when it finally updates. Let’s just say, I’m glad I had the watch to fall-back on. Of course I understand DST is not everywhere, but those countries will come around and advance in time.

It has this amazing feature that is built in. It has an audible ticking noise. Say, for instance, you have to perform a function for a given number of seconds, or that you have to count how many seconds elapse. This feature really comes in handy.

Check it out. In photography, I often have to count exposure time in seconds. I also have to count intervals in seconds. I can’t tell you how much I miss my watch if I don’t bring it along for photography because of how easy it makes this. Imagine holding a camera viewfinder to your eye. Your wrist is right beside your face. This makes it ideal to use the audible tick feature to keep track of time. Hold the shutter, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, release. It’s accurate to a fraction of a second and doesn’t have to be downloaded, installed, opened etc. It just always provides this function. I use it in more situations than I can count.

Then there’s the face. The time is displayed in a spatial representation rather than an abstract numeral. Just like a loading-bar grows as it progresses, as we use pie-charts to view drive partition size or space used, or how all of our apps have sliders to adjust values such as saturation, scale, and duration. It’s so easy to know the current time at a single glance, even if you can’t actually see the hour marks. It’s also especially easy to do relative time calculations completely intuitively. This is a feature I could not live without. Too much of my work and hobbies requires tracking relative rather than specific times.

Let the engine idle for ten-minutes. Let cure for thirty-minutes. “I’ll be there in five!”. “Estimated download time: 13-minutes”. Delivery in thirty-minutes or less. “Give me ten minutes and come back”.

It’s so easy to do relative time calculation, it doesn’t require thought, math, or even the specific time. You know what thirty-minutes looks like, right? It’s straight across from whatever the current minute position is. Five minutes will be equal to the relative distance of the minute-hand to the hour mark, but to the next hour mark. Fifteen-minutes is a quarter of the face. I wanted to switch to a Casio digital, but looking at numerals all day and requiring everything to be specific and require math was nauseating. Nothing will ever be more simple than a spatial representation of time.

Bugs: none
Software update frequency: N/A
Compatibility: Human
Display DPI: better than your eyes
Time between recharges: 10-months if you leave it in a box. Otherwise no recharge necessary. Ever.
Benefits: works with gloves, always-on display, becomes even more readable in direct sunlight, audible ticking feature, watch band compatibility is endless, doesn’t look like wearing a 90’s kids spy-watch.

Well, you wanted somebody to talk sense into you. I truly feel sad for anybody that considers getting a clap-trap watch.

I say this just because I want people to be happy, and I hear more grief from the people around me that have “smart” watches than I’ve ever heard about ANY other wrist device. I never miss an opportunity to respond by pointing to my watch and saying, “check this out! Tells time, even says the day of the week and never has to be recharged!” Such grievances are so trivial, why even open that box?

Ask yourself: what’s the BEST that can happen? Is it really worth it? How have you lived this long without it?

“Hey mister! What does it do?” :))

I am even more of a purist and I only wear a solar dial I made myself with materials from the ancient woods of Middle Earth and was then given a soul by the magic of the Elves themselves :))
 
Pre ordered the series 8. I’m jumping up from a series 6. Obviously now I just want the Ultra and I’m desperately trying to find ways to justify it/not justify it. I’m totally torn. Can someone talk some sense to me please.

Best way is to try it, if you have any Apple store around. You can certainly wait a month or so until it comes in stock, right? Take your mind off it, stop reading forums and news about the watch and come back after you’ve tried it.
 
I think there will be a lot of gentle ribbing of people who are very clearly not the outdoor adventure type, but will wear an Ultra. Marketing is a powerful thing.
It is the same with cars and motorcycles.
BMW GS/A to go to Starbucks/never leaves the pavement.
Range Rover to go grocery shopping etc.
But I’m sure it won’t be long before you can get a watch modification kit on Amazon that will give you the look and feel of the Ultra for a lot cheaper.

On Amazon there are already mods for a luxury watch look.
 

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The ultra looks amazing! However, I recall a story about the supplier of the wrist sensor in the Apple Watch developing a blood sugar reading through the skin. I would anticipate next year that feature will be included in the Apple Watch. That might be enough of a reason to hold off! I really want an Apple Watch ultra, however, I work on the Railroad and I’m not allowed to wear smart watches, or I could get fired! What a stupid policy!
Really, why is that? What’s the reason?
 
had a 6. went ultra instantly. 8 is a meh upgrade unless you have ovaries. ultra is wonderful.
Yeah the watch series 8 is a pretty minor upgrade where the ultra just seems like a significantly better watch. Brighter, larger screen, better speakers, two microphones, more watch faces and you get a £100 band with it.
Go ultra or go home 🙂
 
How would you watch it as it happened?

X’D I saw that one coming.

“Hey mister! What does it do?” :))

I am even more of a purist and I only wear a solar dial I made myself with materials from the ancient woods of Middle Earth and was then given a soul by the magic of the Elves themselves :))

This is some level of trolling, I’m almost sure. Elving? Elfing?
 
“Hey mister! What does it do?” :))

I am even more of a purist and I only wear a solar dial I made myself with materials from the ancient woods of Middle Earth and was then given a soul by the magic of the Elves themselves :))
Is Elvin magic still a one-tlme purchase, or have they gone to the subscription model now, too?
 
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I have a 6 cellular aluminum and upgrading to the series 8 steel cellular. I’ll wait to version two of the ultra or if Apple maks a series 9 with a flat screen like the ultra that would be perfect.

The clock is already started ticket for the Ultra 2. Less than a year or new watch will be out.
This is good advice, general rule of thumb, always by Apple's 2nd version of the product, they usually get it right by then.
 
I'm not an outdoor kind of guy but I love the look and size of the Ultra. I currently have a 6 which is a bit small compared to the Breitling I wear on formal occasions so the Ultra is going to be a great everyday wear. Its the only thing I'm buying from the September keynote. As for the iPhone I think I can wait for the 15 Pro next year its not worth the jump from the 13 Pro for me.
 
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But that’s why I’m here, that’s why I asked the question.

I mean, yeah, I just like shiny things and I’m massive apple fan boy. To be honest I’d probably be bullied by my colleagues for getting the ultra but 99.95% doesn’t care… so… I dunno - no clearer.

If you need random internet strangers to provide you jusitification for a purchase, then you already have your answer.
 
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