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I need a new grill. Advice?
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The OP is on a quest for meat that is carcinogenic on the outside.
What do you mean? From the tethlon?
I was under the impression that the charing effect of standard grills was also carcinogenic.
"If the food is cooked appropriately and removed from the grill when done, it may be healthier than food cooked on a charcoal grill that has been licked by flames or overcooked in places, because it has less opportunity for potentially harmful heterocyclic amines, or HCAs, to develop. According to the National Cancer Institute, outdoor grilled meat and poultry may also contain polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs, which may be carcinogenic. Using the George Foreman grill instead may reduce your exposure to these compounds."
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What do you mean? From the tethlon?
I was under the impression that the charing effect of standard grills was also carcinogenic.
I don't know absolutely about Teflon, but just from the burning that you mentioned.
I believe this was first identified with ........... wait for it ............ overcooking bacon.
........... wait for it ............ overcooking bacon.
Mmmm....sweet, sweet carcinogens!
I see what you meant now, I misread.
My grill of choice is the Weber Smokey Joe miniature grill. It cooks 4 steaks just fine and you don't use a half a bag of charcoal every time you crank it up. Disclaimer: I am just cooking for 2 most times, but sometime 4. And... it only costs about $40. I have never liked gas grills.
My grill of choice is the Weber Smokey Joe miniature grill. It cooks 4 steaks just fine and you don't use a half a bag of charcoal every time you crank it up. Disclaimer: I am just cooking for 2 most times, but sometime 4. And... it only costs about $40. I have never liked gas grills.
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I got this one last summer. Very easy to carry and cooks very quickly. This is the Gold model, which doesn't vent at the bottom and hence is less messy (ashes don't spill from the bottom). Great device.
I just bought an Expedition 2x model (can't recall the manufacturer just now) from Costco for $109. It is very sturdy, has 2 gas burners, comes with a grill/griddle that alone would cost over $50. I haven't used it yet, but it will be great for cooking in the back yard and avoid having the heat and smoke in the house triggering the smoke alarm.
Actually the Smokey Joe I am using does have both a vent and a tray on the bottom to catch ashes.
The OP is on a quest for meat that is carcinogenic on the outside.
I posted in jest... I would never consider George Foreman a top of the line grill.
Gas/propane works well for some things, but for steaks, the only thing that beats charcoal is wood.
Gas grills just don't get hot enough to cook a steak the way I like it. Yes, I know there are these new "infrared" gas grills with a tiny newfangled thingamajig on the side - and even those don't get as hot as a nice mesquite wood fire.
Gas grills just don't get hot enough to cook a steak the way I like it. Yes, I know there are these new "infrared" gas grills with a tiny newfangled thingamajig on the side - and even those don't get as hot as a nice mesquite wood fire.
I have a Weber natural gas 3 burner that I bought about 8 years ago. Love love love it! I cook our XMas turkey on it, wicked steaks and just about anything else. I have a small "smoker" for wood chips that makes the best ribs.
I also have a portable Weber propane for the trailer. I make breakfast on it every morning when camping.
My point is Weber is one of the best and most cost efficient BBQ's I have ever had.
I also have a portable Weber propane for the trailer. I make breakfast on it every morning when camping.
My point is Weber is one of the best and most cost efficient BBQ's I have ever had.
I couldn't agree more. I have had various grills over the years from low cost or no name sources that lasted only a season or 2 or 3 before falling apart. I had always heard great things about Weber but always dismissed them. I finally gave in and bought a Weber Spirit E310 last summer and I have been extremely impressed. It is solidly built (minimum 10 year warranty / 25 years on the casing), it lights first time every time, it heats evenly (first grill ever that I can say this about), and is just overall a great investment. I love the side-to-side burners that are great for indirect cooking (just turn off the front burner and use the front part of the grill). No hot spots, no flare ups, rapid heating, overall the best grill experiences by far (and I have had a LOT of grills).
Yes a Weber costs more initially but it will save you in the long run and be a much more pleasant experience. It is very well worth the investment.
+1000, used to have to buy a new POS grill like char-broil every several years as either the burners would rust out or the cheap rivets holding the fire box together would fall apart. I've had the same Weber Genesis for over 10 years now and other than cleaning after use and keeping a cover on it, it's still cooking real well. I'm a customer for life now. If you do get a Genesis/Spirit a worthy upgrade is the heavy duty porcelain cast iron grills, I prefer them over the thin cheapies that come with the spirit line and even over the thin stainless steel ones that come with the higher end genesis models. Reason is the PCI has MASS and that helps to keep the heat. Makes nice cross hatch marks on my steaks.
BTW, weber makes a charcoal grill called 'Performer', BIL has it and it's the only way I'd use a charcoal grill, uses a small propane tank to light up and heat up the charcoal. You get the speed of propane light up and the taste of charcoal!
For anybody that doesn't know any Spirit or Genesis grill bought from Home Depot has the nice heavy cast iron grates and is why I bought mine there. I don't know why Weber puts different grates on the same model grill from different sources. If I bought from anywhere else I would definitely upgrade to the cast iron grates (but they cost quite a lot by themselves).
EDIT: The grills are the same price no matter where you buy them so in this case it makes a big difference where you buy.
EDIT2: Of course you will pay tax if you buy from HD but tax is cheaper than the grills, and they usually give you something extra like 10% off for opening a credit card or a free tank of propane.
Didn't know that, Lowes sells the weber grills with the cheap thin grates. Definitely get it from HD then if it comes with the heavy duty grates standard!
I would go with both, while it is nice to have charcoal it is sometimes not feasible to have a bbq'ed meal after you get home from work. I have a propane grill with some smoked mesquite briquettes for that need it done in 20 minutes or less. For the weekend grill I use the charcoal grill (weber).
I'm still deciding, but am leaning toward the weber spirit 210 from Home Depot with the heavy cast iron grates. They'll even assemble it free.
You can't go wrong with a Weber, I think you will be very pleased with it. And be sure to ask for any extras like a free tank of propane or any extra discount. I opened a HD credit card (although I certainly did not need another card...) and that gave me 10% off plus free use of their truck. I love my Spirit 310 mover every time I use it.
Good choice! I just hope weber doesn't go bankrupt as my buddies and I haven't had to replace our webers for over a decade lol. It just irritates me to see aisles and aisles of super shiny stainless steel looking grills that are held together with cheap parts and burners. They might look better but they certainly don't cook any better and don't last longer either.
I'm replacing my Kenmore as well. While I agree that the Kenmore lacks in the quality department, they should still be considered a value. 5-7 years isn't bad for what they cost.
My neighbor has a Traeger and loves it. He has an older Weber and he never uses it, he uses the Traeger for everything (grilling and smoking). They are electric witch may be a plus or a minus (it's a plus to me).
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My neighbor has a Traeger and loves it. He has an older Weber and he never uses it, he uses the Traeger for everything (grilling and smoking). They are electric witch may be a plus or a minus (it's a plus to me).
Amazon Traeger http://www.amazon.com/Traeger-Junio...JFSU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334695262&sr=8-1
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The Weber Q-series grills are great. I've had a Q220 for 4 years now and it is still working like new. It has a smaller volume then the spirit and genesis grill and therefore warms up fast. Grilling surface is sufficiently large for 4-6 good size steaks
pulled the trigger on the Weber E-210. Funny. At the outset I said I wanted a no-BS, quality-made grill for under $400. So I got a Weber for $400.
Someone could have called this outcome days ago!
Someone could have called this outcome days ago!