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I need help!!! considering PC because this problem is annoying, also GPU prob.i think

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adventhp1

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ok my mbp is 13'' and is the mid 2009 version 2.34 gz(or something like that)
and has 2gb ram, running lion upgraded hard disk a few days ago has 500gb

my mbp is slow REALLY SLOW i pinwheels constantly so unresponsive and is pissing me off
i have boot camp with windows 7 for games (50gb) wich runs fine

i have bought 8gb ram from crucial (not arrived yet) but i was wondering what to do to make it faster if that doesn't work please please help!!!!

also will high end games work with 8gb and should or can i upgrade my graphics card if so whats better than Ge force 9400m for under £100 (150 dollars)

opps the title is abit effed up
 
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Lion and 2GB of RAM definitely doesn't sound too good. A RAM upgrade should help, at least I wouldn't make any conclusions before you have upgraded the RAM.
 
adventhp1 said:
ok my mbp is 13'' and is the mid 2009 version 2.34 gz(or something like that)
and has 2gb ram, running lion upgraded hard disk a few days ago has 500gb
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There is your problem... only 2GB is cutting it short with Lion now. The whole minimum needed is 4GB with Lion to be productive. Lion seriously messed up memory management a lot.
 
adventhp1 said:
ok my mbp is 13'' and is the mid 2009 version 2.34 gz(or something like that)
and has 2gb ram, running lion upgraded hard disk a few days ago has 500gb

my mbp is slow REALLY SLOW i pinwheels constantly so unresponsive and is pissing me off
i have boot camp with windows 7 for games (50gb) wich runs fine

i have bought 8gb ram from crucial (not arrived yet) but i was wondering what to do to make it faster if that doesn't work please please help!!!!


opps the title is abit effed up
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Its the ram 2gb is the min for lion so you should see a difference with the 8gb
 
Each time there is a major point upgrade to the OS, requiring more memory is to be expected.

The way it's handled by Lion is exemplary.
 
If installing the ram doesn't help solve your problem, verify disk permissions and if suggested repair them. Also verify and repair the disk. If that fails I would make a Genius appointment.
 
kl thanks guys also will i be able to run high-end games on my mac if i get 8gb ram (GTA IV) or is that graphics card related.
 
vitzr said:
The way it's handled by Lion is exemplary.
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Not... Many people are still having problems with kernel panics under Lion. I can watch as Lion eats my 4 gigs and then chokes and that was after a clean install. There are still bugs in the OS that need to be resolved and mem management is one of them.
 
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adventhp1 said:
kl thanks guys also will i be able to run high-end games on my mac if i get 8gb ram (GTA IV) or is that graphics card related.
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That is GPU related, not RAM related.

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adventhp1 said:
kl thanks guys also will i be able to run high-end games on my mac if i get 8gb ram (GTA IV) or is that graphics card related.
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4GB of RAM is more than enough for many (if not all) modern games. If your game stutters or is slow, then it is bounded by something other than the RAM. In this case it is most likely the GPU due to it being a MacBook Pro. I doubt it'd be the CPU at any point.
 
vitzr said:
Each time there is a major point upgrade to the OS, requiring more memory is to be expected.

The way it's handled by Lion is exemplary.
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He doesn't have problems with Windows 7, so it applies only to Lion.

Windows 7 even runs pretty descent on a Pentium 4 with 1 gb of Ram.
 
wpotere said:
Not... Many people are still having problems with kernel panics under Lion. I can watch as Lino eats my 4 gigs and then chokes and that was after a clean install. There are still bugs in the OS that need to be resolved and mem management is one of them.
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All those fancy features like Resume eat your RAM. You can't get cool new features without sacrificing hardware. I wouldn't expect Lion to get much better in terms of memory management. It has been designed to use more RAM than SL. OTOH, 8GB is quickly becoming the norm and $40 shouldn't be too much anyway.
 
Hellhammer said:
All those fancy features like Resume eat your RAM. You can't get cool new features without sacrificing hardware. I wouldn't expect Lion to get much better in terms of memory management. It has been designed to use more RAM than SL. OTOH, 8GB is quickly becoming the norm and $40 shouldn't be too much anyway.
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You know what's sad? My main machine is using 6GB of RAM under Windows 7. I don't even use 50% of those 6GB even when running a full blown game. For instance, running Crysis uses only 33%, running it together with F@H and it's still under 50% by far (actual figure is 39%).

It's sad Lion is such a memory hog because Snow Leopard decreased memory hogging with each release (the latest Snow Leo update let me start with 3.12 GB of RAM after everything started up). Lion? I am lucky if I start at 2.6 GB... crazy.
 
i have memory freer app it says:

Free: 16mb
wired: 300mb
active: 988mb
inactive:488-499mb
used: 1.74 GB
 
adventhp1 said:
i have memory freer app it says:

Free: 16mb
wired: 300mb
active: 988mb
inactive:488-499mb
used: 1.74 GB
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Yeah, there is your problem. Your free memory is gone. That means your Mac starts using the Hard Disk for swap and that slows down the entire system.

Can you get a reading how many page outs and the size of them?
 
jav6454 said:
Yeah, there is your problem. Your free memory is gone. That means your Mac starts using the Hard Disk for swap and that slows down the entire system.

Can you get a reading how many page outs and the size of them?
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i dont know were to find that...
 
adventhp1 said:
i dont know were to find that...
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Have a look at Activity Monitor (Applications / Utilities /) and check the "System Memory" tab to see what your "Page ins:", "Page outs:" and "Swap used:" are.

image below uses sorting by CPU as an example
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Further reading:
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More RAM will definitely help out. Just incase you don't know here's how to replace the RAM on your machine.
 
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