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Yeah I'm pretty sure that would qualify as age discrimination, if anyone cares to challenge it in court.

Do they really give handicapped privileges to fat people? Sounds like something from right wing radio to me but who knows.

same with ladies night at bars is sex discrimination

im not gonna challenge that one though lol
 
aah there's the rub I think. We're at the stage where the first baby boomers are entering the golden years lol, and there's two things about the boomers: a) they have money (more than both the prvious and the next generations) b) there's lots of them. Soooo. that pretty much tells you all you need to know in terms of who's gonna be having the biggest say.

No one told me I was suppose to have lots of money. Dang, so thats what that line was for. :eek: :p
 
.... My future tax money is going to old people that do nothing but whine........ or am I just being a @($#?

you're whining about "future" tax dollars? so you're not actually paying for any of this but just whining anyway? LOL :rolleyes:
 
If you really need to vent.

Can I drill the hole in your head? :eek:

We don't want your head to explode, it is messy.

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No they literally have "senior hours" where if you aren't a senior your not allowed to go in. It is ridiculous!

Just go home and buy stuff from Amazon. Let the seniors drive around and burn gas to pay retail markup and sales tax.

Any business that needs to cater to a population group who demand their own segregated "public" shopping experience is doomed to mediocrity.
 
About the bars: why can't they just have bars with no smoking, and some bars for smokers where non-smokers that dont mind and want to enjoy time with their smoker friends can go? Why does it have to be one way?

Because there are people who work in these bars that deserve to have a work environment that is not detrimental to their health. If you don't like not being able to smoke in a bar, restaurant, etc, move some where that allows it. I am personally very thankful that I no longer have to deal with smoke in restaurants, bars, and wherever else. I'm also quite glad that I can now tell the jerk that decides its ok to smoke his stogie in the seating area in front of the local Starbucks to stop or I'll have to call the police and have him cited (I live in a very dull town where the police would actually come to do this). Smoking your cigar in public is disgusting. Its not my fault you chose to smoke, I shouldn't have to deal with the consequences of your nasty habit when I'm in a public place. If I'm at your home and you chose to smoke, thats fine, go for it, I'll probably just move some distance away from you.

I do agree with you on the handicap parking, if you are fat by your own eating habits you are not handicapped and you should have your own parking area as far away from the mall as possible so you can get some exercise on the way to the Hot Dog On A Stick.
 
No they literally have "senior hours" where if you aren't a senior your not allowed to go in. It is ridiculous!

No it's not. It's a good way of making vulnerable people who could potentially feel excluded have a visit to their shopping centre. Hell I'm 22 and I'd LOVE my shopping complex to exclude the chavvy 'mall rats' at certain hours of the day. I avoid that place when I know it's going to be overrun by kids.

About the bars: why can't they just have bars with no smoking, and some bars for smokers where non-smokers that dont mind and want to enjoy time with their smoker friends can go? Why does it have to be one way?
The smoking ban was the best thing to happen here. Now anyone, no matter their job can work in a tobacco smoke-free environment which is very good for non-smokers and the workforce of our country.
 
That's the point though isn't it? I take it the op's idea is that he's not being given any repect if he's summarily rousted from the gym even earlier than the already strange hours so the seniors can go in. I mean after all, it's the seniors who have all the free time, lol, you'd expect them to be the ones fitting their schedules around othe rgroups' not getting the pick of the times. Even the little kids nowadays, if they're older than like seven, they have less free time than their grannies :p Besides, the litmus test is replace seniors and kids by some other group, and you can tell that's discriminatory.

I hear what you say , however , I think it's a good thing to allow particular age groups access and exclude others , as long as every age group gets a 'crack at it' , otherwise that would be unfair.
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aah there's the rub I think. We're at the stage where the first baby boomers are entering the golden years lol, and there's two things about the boomers: a) they have money (more than both the prvious and the next generations) b) there's lots of them. Soooo. that pretty much tells you all you need to know in terms of who's gonna be having the biggest say.

exactly
 
If youth want respect from the seniors, then they must earn it. It's not something that is a right. The seniors, have earned the respect over the years and worked hard at it. Best bet, give respect, if you want to earn some. ;)
 
handicapped parking is a joke. I honestly consider 90% of the people that use handicapped parking abusing the privledge. They either need to tighten up the requirements or get rid of handicapped parking altogether because honestly fat people need the extra walk.

You can hardly blame old people for other people abusing this - but I agree wholeheartedly that a lot of them seem to just use FAT as an excuse...

I agree, to an extent. I think as a general rule, this society tends to shovel off old folks and get them out of the way. I find old people actually depressing, in a way. It's sad that after a life full of events and important stuff here they are, old, neglected by society, and yet in a lot of cases unable to take care of themselves like they used to. I think in general the elderly should get more respect from our culture.

One thing: Independent of that point, I think that every one over 60 or 65 should be retested for driving every year. I have seen so many old drivers pull out in front me and others, and in the news it's not really 'news' when an old guy steps on the gas instead of the hitting the brake, you know? Just as a public safety thing, not to discriminate against age, they should be tested once a year after they hit a certain age.

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No it's not. It's a good way of making vulnerable people who could potentially feel excluded have a visit to their shopping centre. Hell I'm 22 and I'd LOVE my shopping complex to exclude the chavvy 'mall rats' at certain hours of the day. I avoid that place when I know it's going to be overrun by kids.

A shopping centre called Blluewater actually did that, they banned anyone who wore a hoody/baseball cap from coming in, if you compare it to Lakeside (another shopping centre pretty close by, without the ban), there's a huge difference, Lakeside looks a mess, over run by swearing chavs, but Bluewater has a family friendly feel to it.

If a utterly un-related note, never go into the Primark at Lakeside, it's like a bomb site, I thought Mexx was bad...

News link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/4534903.stm
 
No one told me I was suppose to have lots of money. Dang, so thats what that line was for. :eek: :p

heh, guess you're the exception that proves the rule (god I never could wrap my head around that maxim:p)

what's with the line though, I don't get it (sor-ree, I feel really thick today lol)

Just go home and buy stuff from Amazon. Let the seniors drive around and burn gas to pay retail markup and sales tax.

Any business that needs to cater to a population group who demand their own segregated "public" shopping experience is doomed to mediocrity.

amen to that. I got back my peace of mind when I started buying most of my things onilne (including ebay). And you're right about the second part too, but I think that's why the retailers do it. They've finally cottoned on to it that they don't have a chance against online shopping if they don't change. Some change by being better for all customers, and some take the easy, dumb way of targeting demographics that are not likely to shop online in massive numbers.

Because there are people who work in these bars that deserve to have a work environment that is not detrimental to their health. If you don't like not being able to smoke in a bar, restaurant, etc, move some where that allows it. I am personally very thankful that I no longer have to deal with smoke in restaurants, bars, and wherever else. I'm also quite glad that I can now tell the jerk that decides its ok to smoke his stogie in the seating area in front of the local Starbucks to stop or I'll have to call the police and have him cited (I live in a very dull town where the police would actually come to do this). Smoking your cigar in public is disgusting. Its not my fault you chose to smoke, I shouldn't have to deal with the consequences of your nasty habit when I'm in a public place. If I'm at your home and you chose to smoke, thats fine, go for it, I'll probably just move some distance away from you.

God, I hear ya <s> I understand it can sometimes be hard on smokers when they can't smoke anywhere at all (although in my experience some have welcomed the bans as they want to quit and hope the increased difficulties will help them along), but where I live now, the smoker rules. supreme. Many cafes and eateries haven't got a non-smokers' area, let alone being smoke-free, and if you don't like smoke, you can forget about hitting the nightclubs and closed live music venues. Up until less than ten years ago, even hospitals and government/municipal buildings weren't no-smoking areas. Banks are suposed to be, but in practice it's not always upheld. so there you are trying to get your job done, with the clerk's smoke hitting you full in the face as it wafts up.

It will be a huge relief when the ban finally rolls around here, but that's not until around a year and a half from now. Until then, even politely asking people not to smoke in your snout while you're trying to eat a bit or relax is liable to make people look at you like you just crawled out from under a rock. Meanwhile, the only place I can go to be sure I'm not smoked like a strung up ham is Starbucks, which is totally non-smoking in all its interior areas. Which is no doubt why they're making a killing in this bloody town.

If youth want respect from the seniors, then they must earn it. It's not something that is a right. The seniors, have earned the respect over the years and worked hard at it. Best bet, give respect, if you want to earn some. ;)

The old chestnut, huh:p? Just being the same age as people who fought for their country at great personal cost or anything like that doesn't mean you did, and even if you did, it doesn't mean you're not respeonsible for other actions that detract from such heroic acts.

I personnally have known a few seniors who haven't done anything whatsoever to earn respect, and actually quite a lot to earn my contempt, so that the only reason I give them respect is because I feel sorry for them, being so old, but still so ignorant and dare I say it immature. I have also found that interestingly, those are usually the ones to be found clamoring the loudest for respect, and arguing they deserve it simply on the basis of their survival:rolleyes:. At the same time, I have come across some very young people who have already done so much to earn my respect--even if I'm their age or even a bit older than they are. :cool:
 
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