Lol, your on crack if you think that XP is more user friendly than OS X... I don't care who you are, XP feels like the stone-age compared to OS X.
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I own a Macbook and I could not be more unhappy with it.
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Lol, your on crack if you think that XP is more user friendly than OS X... I don't care who you are, XP feels like the stone-age compared to OS X.
Thanks for the laugh.
OP:
I understand your point that if you want to play games and save money on a laptop, a Macbook is probably a bad choice.
However, I disagree with you when you say that
What kinds of things do 'real' computer users do? I mean, I think that homework assignments and whatnot count as real computer work. If you disagree, then OSX is also pretty much the OS of choice for a lot of people who work in professional graphics design and video production.
The only thing you've really mentioned is games, and to me it just seems like you're generalizing too much.
I think it's perfectly fine that you don't like Macs, but I also think that it's not right for you to say that anyone who uses a Mac isn't a 'real' computer user.
I understand your point that if you want to play games and save money on a laptop, a Macbook is probably a bad choice.
However, I disagree with you when you say that
Steven Paul Job said:
What kinds of things do 'real' computer users do? I mean, I think that homework assignments and whatnot count as real computer work. If you disagree, then OSX is also pretty much the OS of choice for a lot of people who work in professional graphics design and video production.
The only thing you've really mentioned is games, and to me it just seems like you're generalizing too much.
I think it's perfectly fine that you don't like Macs, but I also think that it's not right for you to say that anyone who uses a Mac isn't a 'real' computer user.
And I don't think that you should play games on a computer.
They are real computers, just like any other computer running a Windows platform. It's got different software that may or may not be more efficient to the end user. I find easier and that is why I am typing this on a Macintosh.
What is user-friendliness actually? The way I see it, it's about to what extent the software (be it an application or OS) actually lets the user get the work done, allowing the user to have a good work-flow. Without too many annoying pop-ups and attention-hijackers from the mandatory arsenal of built-in crapware you find in any PC with Windows pre-installed.
In this sense, Linux may be as user-friendly as OS X, but in its own terms for those who are familiar with it. I'm not necessarily referring to the command-line interface (though it usually provides far more informative feedback than any GUI can do), but e.g. the desktop-cube for those who run the K Desktop Environment (Linux has many GUIs).
User-friendliness is not to be confused with newbie-friendliness. Before I started using Windows in 1992/93, I was quite comfortable with the DOS interface and it felt awkward at first to move a pointer around on the screen, clicking the icons. However, Windows was newbie-friendly enough to get me into it within a day. But was it user-friendly? Did it help me get my work done? I feel it's working against me. Even Linux is better than Windows this way, and the way I see it, the steep learning curve of Linux is outweighed by its user-friendliness.
So - Steven Paul Job - I recommend you try out Linux first (either Ubuntu, Mint or Mandriva), and then by using only Linux for 2-4 weeks. After un-learning all your Windows-habits, OSX will work like a dream for you.
In this sense, Linux may be as user-friendly as OS X, but in its own terms for those who are familiar with it. I'm not necessarily referring to the command-line interface (though it usually provides far more informative feedback than any GUI can do), but e.g. the desktop-cube for those who run the K Desktop Environment (Linux has many GUIs).
User-friendliness is not to be confused with newbie-friendliness. Before I started using Windows in 1992/93, I was quite comfortable with the DOS interface and it felt awkward at first to move a pointer around on the screen, clicking the icons. However, Windows was newbie-friendly enough to get me into it within a day. But was it user-friendly? Did it help me get my work done? I feel it's working against me. Even Linux is better than Windows this way, and the way I see it, the steep learning curve of Linux is outweighed by its user-friendliness.
So - Steven Paul Job - I recommend you try out Linux first (either Ubuntu, Mint or Mandriva), and then by using only Linux for 2-4 weeks. After un-learning all your Windows-habits, OSX will work like a dream for you.
My thoughts ^ OP if you really can't get used to it then macs have a high resell value.
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A month of OS X use now, and it's almost painful going back to Windows. That's not in anyway saying I don't still have bad Windows habits, but it's just so counter productive.
OP, I think you are shunning what is truly a brilliant platform because it doesn't play games, c'mon! Gamer's are not REAL computer users, that's pissing around. Whilst they are a real use for a computer, there are much better things you could be doing, and for doing those, it's OS X. Sure, have boot camp for your games, but read some articles on switching like I did, TUAW's Mac 101 is quite good.
Once you've got OS X into you for "real" computer work, well, I don't think you can go back
OP, I think you are shunning what is truly a brilliant platform because it doesn't play games, c'mon! Gamer's are not REAL computer users, that's pissing around. Whilst they are a real use for a computer, there are much better things you could be doing, and for doing those, it's OS X. Sure, have boot camp for your games, but read some articles on switching like I did, TUAW's Mac 101 is quite good.
Once you've got OS X into you for "real" computer work, well, I don't think you can go back
Your local apple store should offer some classes on mac basics. Maybe you could spend some free time next weekend there.
My dad always told me when i was younger: "PC does not stand for Play Computer, but PERSONAL Computer."
Computers were never really designed for gaming, it came later for entertainment purposes.
Anyway the MacBooks with 9400m are fine for light gaming, sims 3, spore, gta iv, call of duty, everything works fine, i don't see your point, because you can even hook up your unibody macbook to your 50" Sony High Definition TV and play in 1920x1080. Isn't that great?
But you should have researched a bit more, you would have learned that for gaming you need a 15" MacBook Pro.
Computers were never really designed for gaming, it came later for entertainment purposes.
Anyway the MacBooks with 9400m are fine for light gaming, sims 3, spore, gta iv, call of duty, everything works fine, i don't see your point, because you can even hook up your unibody macbook to your 50" Sony High Definition TV and play in 1920x1080. Isn't that great?
But you should have researched a bit more, you would have learned that for gaming you need a 15" MacBook Pro.
You can't call OSX bad just because you are used to Windows and obviously aren't quick enough to learn a better operating system. Many windows users switch all the time and pick it up very quickly - and LOVE it.
Also...my macbook does REAL computing all the time- and much faster than my sister's HP laptop which has "better" specs.
You also sound very ungrateful. If my parents bought me a brand new macbook I would be so happy and grateful. I would not piss and moan about having to learn OSX- I would learn it with a huge smile on my face.
Sell or give your macbook to someone more deserving.
Also...my macbook does REAL computing all the time- and much faster than my sister's HP laptop which has "better" specs.
You also sound very ungrateful. If my parents bought me a brand new macbook I would be so happy and grateful. I would not piss and moan about having to learn OSX- I would learn it with a huge smile on my face.
Sell or give your macbook to someone more deserving.
Why did you think it was what you wanted? Did you research the MacBook before (I'm assuming here) you asked parents to purchase it for you?
This is not really an issue with your MacBook, but rather you're more comfortable using Windows because it is all you've ever used. Once you learn to use OS X you will begin to realize its eloquent beauty.
There are games made for OS X, but definitely not as many as are made for Windows. Again, did you do your research before purchasing? If gaming was one of your priorities you would have purchased a MBP or an iMac. Although you can play games on the MB (and I do on mine) it is by no means considered a gaming machine.
Again... You didn't take your requirements into consideration before you made your purchase. This is not the MacBook or OS X's fault.
Again, the MacBook is not a "gaming" machine and most folks do not purchase RAM from Apple when there are so many other better deals available for RAM. I find this entire statement suspect as you mention below you've been on NEWEGG and have probably perused the better prices on RAM there.
I'll close with the following point. You put the cart before the horse by purchasing a notebook and THEN doing the "research and searching" for a notebook that fits your needs and meets your requirements. You should have done this first.
One solution is to sell your MacBook and purchase the notebook you found on NEWEGG. MacBooks retain their value well and you should be able to get enough for it to purchase the machine you want. Fall on your sword and tell your folks you didn't properly research the MacBook before they purchased it, but you will resolve it. No harm, no foul.
I'm guessing they bought it because you nagged them into it. Should have done your research first.
Games do not equal real computer use, but if that's what you want you should have nagged your parents into buying a XP laptop for, um, real use.
i learned how to use a mac in a week after i got mine july last year. the whole point of a mac is that it just works.
My goodness. Are we still feeding him?
Seriously?
Three posts, all with pulled-from-the-playbook taunts, and we're still assuming he's some wayward teen who sadly had a MacBook thrust into his hands as a sort of accidental late Xmas gift and who is now just can't seem to like it even after installing Windows?
Come on.
Seriously?
Three posts, all with pulled-from-the-playbook taunts, and we're still assuming he's some wayward teen who sadly had a MacBook thrust into his hands as a sort of accidental late Xmas gift and who is now just can't seem to like it even after installing Windows?
Come on.
Yes, please stop feeding the troll...
Do we really believe that a teen does "Real computing" after he states that his main issue with the MB is that he can't play games? Wow...
But, then again, that is the user base that Windows' is...LMAO...kids playing games...
Do we really believe that a teen does "Real computing" after he states that his main issue with the MB is that he can't play games? Wow...
But, then again, that is the user base that Windows' is...LMAO...kids playing games...
I'm still scratching my head on why ANYONE would consider any computer for gaming purposes only. Like others have said, thats what playstations and xboxes are for! That is their purpose. Computers main purpose is not for playing games and I can say with much confidence that "Real computer users" are not purchasing Macbooks for games either.
Whether OP can afford a gaming machine or not is irrelevant...you bought (or asked parents to buy you) a computer that you knew nothing about to play games on. You could have just asked for a PS or Xbox then! OP, you must be very young, but as you age, you will find that real computer users and GOOD computers like a Macbook are made solid and quality driven for their OS, UI and proper computer software of internet, email and document processing. I say sell your computer and get a PS or Xbox if all you want is to play games.
BTW....I dont find much learning curve to Mac OS at all. It took me maybe a few days just to learn where everything was, but most options and needs are essentially the same as a Windows machine.
and...if for some reason you are still keen on keeping your Macbook and just loading windows, look into Parallels or VM Fusion that allow you to go back and forth to windows for your needs without having to reboot. Windows will open just like an application.
Whether OP can afford a gaming machine or not is irrelevant...you bought (or asked parents to buy you) a computer that you knew nothing about to play games on. You could have just asked for a PS or Xbox then! OP, you must be very young, but as you age, you will find that real computer users and GOOD computers like a Macbook are made solid and quality driven for their OS, UI and proper computer software of internet, email and document processing. I say sell your computer and get a PS or Xbox if all you want is to play games.
BTW....I dont find much learning curve to Mac OS at all. It took me maybe a few days just to learn where everything was, but most options and needs are essentially the same as a Windows machine.
and...if for some reason you are still keen on keeping your Macbook and just loading windows, look into Parallels or VM Fusion that allow you to go back and forth to windows for your needs without having to reboot. Windows will open just like an application.
We can stop feeding him. Troll status has been confirmed. Based on other info, it's exceedingly unlikely his story is even remotely true.
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