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When something is no longer produced or provided (i.e., no longer for sale), it’s been discontinued. Source: Merriam-Webster.
The mini models are without a doubt discontinued, but I meant the form factor. I suspect a weaker demand results longer than yearly breaks between refreshed. The terminology I use is probably still incorrect, I'm not a linguist...
 
I have a 13pm that is too big for me to get any use out of. I wish it was a mini. I'm going to lose my shirt trading down with ebay hoovering up about 25-30% of the value of everything in fees.

In my mind, the 13mini was the SE. Oh it was? So there was a 13 mini and an SE 3rd gen that were all based on the 13 architecture? I can't keep all these models straight. Will the new SE 4th will be the next Mini with the guts of the 15? Seems kind of premature to call the smaller size dead when they're selling the bejeezus out of them with the letters S and E tacked on the end instead of M I N and I.
 
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Others, like me, will hold off. We will replace the battery get maybe another 2-3 years and then upgrade.
another 2-3 years from now, that's a solid amount of padding before having to figure out next move, even if permanently doomed options wise at that point in time.

I think some people are coming up on 9 years with se1 lol, and probably plenty of 6s users that have had the device for going on the full decade :D for headphone jack or physical touchID or most likely just plainly not caring to upgrade their phone and holding onto their cash
 
would sacrifice features for compactness if forced to choose

Yes, and no.

There were times--on my last trip to the Mojave--where I would have appreciated some telephoto, and Night Mode improvements.

But, "another phone?!?"

She performed, magically, and was always within reach of a charging cable....
 
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How many people actually use their phones with one hand? I've always used two hands -- hold the phone in one hand and tap it with the other, even when I had the original iPod touch.

If I had three, I would use them all ;)

Having two, I usually use one, another, or both ;)

I sometimes use neither.

Options are a Good Thing :)
 
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another 2-3 years from now, that's a solid amount of padding before having to figure out next move, even if permanently doomed options wise at that point in time.

I think some people are coming up on 9 years with se1 lol, and probably plenty of 6s users that have had the device for going on the full decade :D for headphone jack or physical touchID or most likely just plainly not caring to upgrade their phone and holding onto their cash
When I was young, I craved The New. Now, I wish I still had my 1964 Chevy and my 2012 MINI Cooper. None of the others left a lasting impression.

My soul/mind embraces form-factor more than anything else. The 5S/SE was super tiny. The 6S was rock solid. The 13.mini fits my hand and pocket. The M1 MacBook Air had the cool, wedge frame.

USB-C would be nice, I’ve never experienced Dynamic Island, and I suppose higher megapixel cameras would be nifty. But I just like my 13.mini.
 
Apple always trends to thinner devices. Problem was I’ve shoving thinness over functionality when the processors or internals didn’t support. I don’t want Apple to go back to Ives obsession with thinness. If you have internals to make it work, great, or make what’s possible.
Ive did his part: He provided elegant designs that aligned with users desires and preferences and motivated Engineering to push the envelope. The failure of the 2019 Intel MacBook Pro was not due to design, but due to Engineering that failed to deliver components that achieved design intents.

This was partially due to over-reliance on Intel to deliver on its promises, but also Engineering leadership that failed to call BS on Intel sooner. The good news is that Apple made the hard choice to take the second-most critical component of their computing products (SOC) into their own hands and make the investments necessary to align these components with its design leadership vision.

The first M-series products were prudent and risk-averse (hence the beefy form factors), but now Apple has found its stride and are seemingly ready to push the envelope. The M4 iPad Pro is tangible proof and the iPhone Slim and “mini” Mac mini rumors provide signs that this ”slim trend” is broad based. I’m hopeful for this to translate into a new feature-rich small form-factor iPhone Pro as well.

I also think the company learned some valuable lessons that will protect it from repeating the 2019 Intel MacBook Pro pattern and I’m excited to see Apple at its “unconstrained” (less-constrained) best in the near future. I sense this confidence in the smirks and swagger of Cook, Srouji, Ternus and Federighi when asked about being behind the competition.
 
How many people actually use their phones with one hand? I've always used two hands -- hold the phone in one hand and tap it with the other, even when I had the original iPod touch.
I’ve always used one-hand and find it unnatural to use two hands to operate a phone. This has been the case with various flavors of landline, mobile and smart phones for me. The only exception was the pay phone where I held the handset in one hand and used the other hand to fish coins out of my pocket and enter them into the coin receiver. 😉
 
another 2-3 years from now, that's a solid amount of padding before having to figure out next move, even if permanently doomed options wise at that point in time.

I think some people are coming up on 9 years with se1 lol, and probably plenty of 6s users that have had the device for going on the full decade :D for headphone jack or physical touchID or most likely just plainly not caring to upgrade their phone and holding onto their cash
Well said. iPhones really are so good that each update cycle is only delivering marginal improvements for many users.
 
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So there was a 13 mini and an SE 3rd gen that were all based on the 13 architecture? I can't keep all these models straight. Will the new SE 4th will be the next Mini with the guts of the 15? Seems kind of premature to call the smaller size dead when they're selling the bejeezus out of them with the letters S and E tacked on the end instead of M I N and I.
Well, thanks to the increasing size of the new iPhones (starting at 6.3”), the next iPhone SE 4 being at 6.1” with the same exact dimensions as the iPhone 14 means it will still be the smaller model.
 
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its the little things but I really love how small the camera bump is with the official leather case on. its like nothing is even there almost looks like a flat phone like the good ole days
 
My teen loves her iPhone 13 mini. I would have problem finding her an upgrade after few years. Oh well, I wouldn’t complain if Apple releases iPhone mini every 5 years.
Same here, every 5 years is plenty for me. Would I welcome the option for more frequent updates? Sure. But having enjoyed the iPhone 7 size for many years, then iPhone SE when it became basically that same size, I’m also fine with the SE lineup. The fact that a kind relative gifted me a 13 mini has been just icing on the cake, i.e. it still feels like I’m using roughly the same size phone for the past 8 years or so, just a hair smaller (or at least narrower). Love to have this option.
 
another 2-3 years from now, that's a solid amount of padding before having to figure out next move, even if permanently doomed options wise at that point in time.

I think some people are coming up on 9 years with se1 lol, and probably plenty of 6s users that have had the device for going on the full decade :D for headphone jack or physical touchID or most likely just plainly not caring to upgrade their phone and holding onto their cash
Fair but I'd also assume those are not the same people reading/posting on fan forums. My father ran first intel iMac for almost ten years? The bootup was about 20 minutes? It was PAINFUL.

People that only need a phone to text/call and/or can keep their phones running. Good for them! My father is rocking an second gen SE and it should last him easily a couple more years ...

All based on wants and needs :)
 
Same here, every 5 years is plenty for me. Would I welcome the option for more frequent updates? Sure. But having enjoyed the iPhone 7 size for many years, then iPhone SE when it became basically that same size, I’m also fine with the SE lineup. The fact that a kind relative gifted me a 13 mini has been just icing on the cake, i.e. it still feels like I’m using roughly the same size phone for the past 8 years or so, just a hair smaller (or at least narrower). Love to have this option.
count me in the every X (5?) years for a mini.
 
I had a 12 mini and the battery life was fine for using as a phone. If your phone is a multimedia entertainment center, you'll want something with a larger screen and battery. I switched to the pro for the better camera and I don't regret it, but I do so much miss the mini form factor. I would buy a new mini in a heartbeat if they put in the latest camera and 120Hz screen. In fact I would pay more for the mini than for the Pro Max or whatever, that's how much I loved the form factor.
Bingo. Premium features in a compact form = premium pricing. Apple started leaving money on the table when they started tying premium features to bigger phones. Those who want bigger phones bought the bigger phones. I suspect many who wanted compact size traded down and paid less.
 
Did the 12Mini have better battery support than the 13Mini? I ask only because I rarely hit low power mode on my 12Mini. I just checked the battery health and it is 89% and it still has the original battery. I use and abuse it daily.
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Some people loved the mini size but most people didn’t — so it was discontinued due to poor sales
For me it was the price point, and it bviously Apple doesn’t want to canabalize their own product by selling a cheaper product that does the same thing. So the mini has to be close to the price of the larger form factor, which in most monkey brains don’t make sense so no one bought
 
Did the 12Mini have better battery support than the 13Mini? I ask only because I rarely hit low power mode on my 12Mini. I just checked the battery health and it is 89% and it still has the original battery. I use and abuse it daily.
Wow, thats actually good for a 12 mini.

How long did you have the 12 mini for? I've had mines for less than a year (before trading it in for a 14 PM) and the battery health depleted so fast. 😖
 
I have the 15pro but had the 13mini sitting in a drawer. Decided last night to swap back and try it out. My lord this this is so much better. The only reasons I went with the 15pro were the camera and I swear there’s a defect in the mini where it overheats and drains the battery. I do think the newer iOS has maybe addressed that. I love the lighter weight and smaller form factor. If this thing had the camera of the 15pro I’d have paid whatever for it to be in the mini. I guess I’ll keep the 15Pro around for when I want the camera. Such a shame we can’t get a pro level mini. It was never a price point issue for me. I don’t know anyone that uses that weird fisheye wide lens anyway.
13 Mini owner here.

It's my third iPhone, after a 5s and a 6s, and I must say that despite loving the size and convenience, it's been quite a letdown. I have had it for 2 years and the battery health is now 88%. But that is not the worst part. After having owned the 5s and 6s for several years, it is the first time the Lightning port stopped working and now the phone cannot be charged using this port. Mind you, I take good care of the cables and quite careful when connecting and disconnecting cables. Oh, well. Time to start saving enough money to pay for a new battery (when the time comes) and for the connector repair.
 
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