I want an 11" quad core MBP with Iris Pro

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Not low-voltage. It does not have to be thin.

But it should have at least 3 USB ports, and built-in gigabit Ethernet.

2 RAM slots, and normal 2.5" hard drive.

Something like a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 11, but powerful, Mac, and with a proper screen.
 
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Freyqq

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that part is 47 watts of TDP. The current chip in there is 17 watts of TDP. So...

1. heat dissipation is a problem
2. battery life is a problem

Both of those things require extra size and weight to compensate for.
 

cube

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The Thinkpad Edge is plastic. MBPs are aluminium.

I am sure Apple can find a way to make it happen.
 

Krazy Bill

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I am sure Apple can find a way to make it happen.
With Apple's mainstream revenue clearly dependent on iOS, why would they want to introduce another notebook? :confused: With every refresh I'm just thankful (and somewhat surprised) they haven't discontinued all of them. :eek:
 

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Not low-voltage. It does not have to be thin.

But it should have at least 3 USB ports, and built-in gigabit Ethernet.

2 RAM slots, and normal 2.5" hard drive.

Something like a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 11, but powerful, Mac, and with a proper screen.
Well, at this point, you must be aware that Apple is not releasing it, as much as you may want it. Apple's offerings are great, but they usually don't offer exactly the computer you would build for yourself.
 

cube

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Well it's gonna be 1.5" thick or have 30 minutes of battery life.

I think the closest thing to what you're asking for would be the Alienware M11X:

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m11x-r3/pd

Which is 1.3" thick and weighs 4.5lbs, which is heavier than the 15" rMBP.
I am not asking for a discrete graphics card, and I think that is also plastic.

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I think they should give us the old 12" back.
Yes, if they made the 12" with PPC, they should be able to do this Iris Pro in 11" or at most 12".
 

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Besides the fact that this is something Apple would do, why would you want it to be so small?
 

cube

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Besides the fact that this is something Apple would do, why would you want it to be so small?
Because I have to carry it and most of the time I would use an external monitor.
 

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I am not asking for a discrete graphics card, and I think that is also plastic.


The M11X had a dual core ULV processor like the current Air has. That plus a discrete GPU is a decent comparison to a quad core standard voltage + Iris Pro.

Being aluminum would let it maybe be a bit thinner, but most of what is dictating that thickness is the cooling and the battery size.

The Thinkpad Edge 11" that you refer to uses ULV processors just like the Airs do.

I think the closest thing you could hope for would be a 13" rMBP with quad core, but that's still iffy.
 

cube

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I think Apple's engineering is better than Dell's.
 

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With Apple's mainstream revenue clearly dependent on iOS, why would they want to introduce another notebook? :confused: With every refresh I'm just thankful (and somewhat surprised) they haven't discontinued all of them. :eek:
They need to offer decent devices to create iOS apps on, without them, you've no iOS!
 

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I think Apple's engineering is better than Dell's.
I am sure Apple could do this, but they have to deal with heat and battery life. Apple thinks the 11" market is covered by the Air, just as the power market is covered by the 15" rMBP. And why would they reintroduce ports and tech (HDD) that Apple is trying to do away with?
 

throAU

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I just want a 15" MBP with Iris + Haswell.

GPU wise it is strong enough for me (stronger than my current 2011 MBP) and it will draw half the power when working hard.

Giving me 2x + the life under load, and probably significantly better life when mostly idle, too.
 

cube

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Yet they are still bound by the laws of physics and currently available technology.
I think most of the people commenting are not hardware designers to know the actual limits.
 

throAU

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In other news: Nvidia and AMD should be scared.

This generation Iris is competitive with discrete GPUs from 12 months ago.

If intel continue on their current trajectory, the discrete GPU market will be pretty much dead within 2 years. Especially if intel enable something similar in the Xeon with multiple socket support to do something like SLI or crossfire.

And before you say "nah, won't happen".... when was the last time anybody bought a discrete sound card?
 

cube

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In other news: Nvidia and AMD should be scared.

This generation Iris is competitive with discrete GPUs from 12 months ago.

If intel continue on their current trajectory, the discrete GPU market will be pretty much dead within 2 years. Especially if intel enable something similar in the Xeon with multiple socket support to do something like SLI or crossfire.

And before you say "nah, won't happen".... when was the last time anybody bought a discrete sound card?
Yes, IGPs can have some advantages.

I am interested in Iris Pro because of the eDRAM for OpenCL, not for graphics. (And I also need the quad core.)

They better push the PCI Express schedule hard.
 

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In other news: Nvidia and AMD should be scared.

This generation Iris is competitive with discrete GPUs from 12 months ago.

If intel continue on their current trajectory, the discrete GPU market will be pretty much dead within 2 years. Especially if intel enable something similar in the Xeon with multiple socket support to do something like SLI or crossfire.

And before you say "nah, won't happen".... when was the last time anybody bought a discrete sound card?
I bought a soundcard around 4 months ago actually, but I see your point.
 

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I want a 8" MacBook Pro with Octo-Core Xeon Processors, 32 GBs of RAM, 1 TB SSD, a built in refrigerator, and a nucleur-power battery offering up to 4 years of battery life. Not getting it anytime soon. :p
 

Xcallibur

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MacMini? MacPro?

The iPad "Pro" or iPad "Deluxe" will soon cannibalize the MBP line into oblivion.
Can you really imagine coding objective-c on an iPad? I'd rather a more comprehensive OS to develop on. Besides that, limiting iOS app development to a desktop isn't a smart move.
 

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I want a 8" MacBook Pro with Octo-Core Xeon Processors, 32 GBs of RAM, 1 TB SSD, a built in refrigerator, and a nucleur-power battery offering up to 4 years of battery life. Not getting it anytime soon. :p
What's the problem with 1TB SSD?

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Can you really imagine coding objective-c on an iPad? I'd rather a more comprehensive OS to develop on. Besides that, limiting iOS app development to a desktop isn't a smart move.
He said iPad "Deluxe". That is the rMB"P".
 

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I want a 8" MacBook Pro with Octo-Core Xeon Processors, 32 GBs of RAM, 1 TB SSD, a built in refrigerator, and a nucleur-power battery offering up to 4 years of battery life.
Seems like a great idea. I'm obviously not a hardware designer so I have no idea if that would be possible but Apple is amazing so who knows?