I want an 11" quad core MBP with Iris Pro

[TSE]

What's the problem with 1TB SSD?

Oh, shoot. Silly me! I forgot, I wanted the SSD to have 1 TB/sec transfer rate and be powered by the typing of the keys on the keyboard.

 

[throAU]

I bought a soundcard around 4 months ago actually, but I see your point.

Yeah, a few people buy them I guess.... but compared to the 90s when everyone bought one.... they're dead. niche market only for audio people.

onboard has been good enough for some time, the last one I bought was an audigy 4, and even then, probably didn't need it for what i do.


if there is one thing I've seen in the past 25 years I've been in the PC world, its that the process is something like this:

1. new tech comes out in software (or hardware on a non-pc platform) and is slow on PC (e.g., digital sound through pc speaker)
2. expensive add-on card comes out to do the job well
3. onboard chipset comes out to do a slightly less crappy job than software only
4. add-on card prices drop
5. intel adds CPU support
6. onboard solution gets almost good enough
7. onboard improves some more and catches up to discrete to be good enough for consumers
8. discrete cards become only relevant for the extreme high end, and then eventually die when the onboard gear gets good enough for that too.

With intel integrated GPUs we're currently somewhere around phase 6... Iris is stage 7...

it's happened with MMUs, Math co-processors, sound cards, network adapters, crypto processing cards, etc.

Video is just another one in a long line of markets to be consumed by intel.

 

[cube]

Seems like a great idea. I'm obviously not a hardware designer so I have no idea if that would be possible but Apple is amazing so who knows?

Some things are obviously ridiculous. Others are not.

 

[Krazy Bill]

Can you really imagine coding objective-c on an iPad? I'd rather a more comprehensive OS to develop on.

I *said*... the MacMini and MacPro will still exist to develop iOS. Where did I mention coding on an iPad?

Besides that, limiting iOS app development to a desktop isn't a smart move.

But adding another consumer notebook so a "tiny" minority of users can develop iOS apps makes perfect sense. Right.

 

[cube]

With intel integrated GPUs we're currently somewhere around phase 6... Iris is stage 7...

What Iris Pro has is eDRAM. Intel does not have hUMA. AMD does.

Both Iris Pro and Kaveri are phase 7.

Phase 8 is eDRAM+hUMA.

 

[throAU]

I *said*... the MacMini and MacPro will still exist to develop iOS. Where did I mention coding on an iPad?

But adding another consumer notebook so a "tiny" minority of users can develop iOS apps makes perfect sense. Right.

Whilst I agree the mac isn't going anywhere....


There's nothing to stop apple putting out a version of xcode for the iPad and using iCloud to store your code and compile it, and optionally upload direct to the app store.

 

[cube]

Whilst I agree the mac isn't going anywhere....


There's nothing to stop apple putting out a version of xcode for the iPad and using iCloud to store your code and compile it, and optionally upload direct to the app store.

That's horrible. What they have to do is turn iOS devices into ARM Macs.

 

[entropi]

I think they should give us the old 12" back.

oh, please not! The last version of PowerBook G4 12" 1,5 Ghz was terrible. The fan was constantly at 6000 rpm and that gets tiresome fast...

I think Intels diversification into several cpu-families are great. Intels ULV cpu's are perfect for "small & thin" computers that still can be usable for pretty much all normal computer stuff. Just leave out 10-bit 4K video editing & lenghty handbrake encode-sessions...

A bit higher res for the 11" screen would be nice IMHO. Retina isn't needed at all.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

I think Apple's engineering is better than Dell's.

Dell has outsourced most of that to china.

 

[Hildegerd]

oh, please not! The last version of PowerBook G4 12" 1,5 Ghz was terrible. The fan was constantly at 6000 rpm and that gets tiresome fast...

I think Intels diversification into several cpu-families are great. Intels ULV cpu's are perfect for "small & thin" computers that still can be usable for pretty much all normal computer stuff. Just leave out 10-bit 4K video editing & lenghty handbrake encode-sessions...

A bit higher res for the 11" screen would be nice IMHO. Retina isn't needed at all.

But the 12" screen real estate was great.

 

[HenryDJP]

Whilst I agree the mac isn't going anywhere....


There's nothing to stop apple putting out a version of xcode for the iPad and using iCloud to store your code and compile it, and optionally upload direct to the app store.

While that's possible, chances are slim. They are not going to defeat themselves by killing off reasons to get a Mac.

 

[Zeov]

With Apple's mainstream revenue clearly dependent on iOS, why would they want to introduce another notebook? With every refresh I'm just thankful (and somewhat surprised) they haven't discontinued all of them.

Your user name makes a lot of sense.

 

[Krazy Bill]

Your user name makes a lot of sense.

Thanks! Wish the same could be said for yours.

 

[thekev]

The Thinkpad Edge is plastic. MBPs are aluminium.

I am sure Apple can find a way to make it happen.

Are we continuing the assertion that the macbook pro case functions as a giant heat sink? It really doesn't seem to be the case.

In other news: Nvidia and AMD should be scared.

This generation Iris is competitive with discrete GPUs from 12 months ago.

If intel continue on their current trajectory, the discrete GPU market will be pretty much dead within 2 years. Especially if intel enable something similar in the Xeon with multiple socket support to do something like SLI or crossfire.

And before you say "nah, won't happen".... when was the last time anybody bought a discrete sound card?

Benchmarks have been all over the place. I'll reserve judgement until I see what it's like in a shipping machine at comparable cost to prior generations. As for Xeons, that doesn't sound like an intel solution at all. The cpus currently have their own QPI links. They could migrate to an APU solution, but I don't know whether that will happen anytime soon. The chips leveraged by xeon EP solutions are aimed at servers first, workstations and (E) i7 enthusiast solutions second.

 

[vpro]

with..

with a super thin bezel around the screen, like super thin, then apple can have my cash!