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I wish the coming new iPhone will have at least 4.1' screen
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I feel confident that the milli-second Tim Cook needs YOUR input on Apple's marketing strategy, he'll figure out a way to get in contact with you.
In the meantime, their marketing strategy seems to be working just fine.
I think a mid 4" screen is inevitable from Apple. I think the phone this year is going to make moves towards this by being 4"
Within two revisions I see the iPhone bifurcate into two models.
4" thin
4.5 wider/taller
iOS 7 will continue to hone the tool-set for developers to make their apps more display agnostic.
Apple is doing really well with that elusive group of sexagenarian and above. However at that ages many eyes are struggling.
Contracts are two years so Apple simply needs to deliver these bifurcated models in two years and everything should be good.
Within two revisions I see the iPhone bifurcate into two models.
4" thin
4.5 wider/taller
iOS 7 will continue to hone the tool-set for developers to make their apps more display agnostic.
Apple is doing really well with that elusive group of sexagenarian and above. However at that ages many eyes are struggling.
Contracts are two years so Apple simply needs to deliver these bifurcated models in two years and everything should be good.
Man, when did apple fans become such fascist apologists?
Just in case you guys have forgotten, Jobs rejuvenated Apple in the 90s by aggressive design changes as well as tweaking the OS. It's only when they switched to the intel chips and introduced the iphone that Apple has hit its zenith. They don't do drastic changes anymore because their base is no longer artists and graphic/photo/video professionals. Since they've become the leader in their market, they've become overly cautious and, I hate to say it, boring.
Jobs since the early 80s has always been about introducing the latest design as well as GUI. Why are people on this board so adamant that Apple should not change the design of their products these days?
Google apple products in the 90s and learn how Jobs saved Apple. He did it by trying new things and introducing them by way of cool designs. These days, not so much so.
Just in case you guys have forgotten, Jobs rejuvenated Apple in the 90s by aggressive design changes as well as tweaking the OS. It's only when they switched to the intel chips and introduced the iphone that Apple has hit its zenith. They don't do drastic changes anymore because their base is no longer artists and graphic/photo/video professionals. Since they've become the leader in their market, they've become overly cautious and, I hate to say it, boring.
Jobs since the early 80s has always been about introducing the latest design as well as GUI. Why are people on this board so adamant that Apple should not change the design of their products these days?
Google apple products in the 90s and learn how Jobs saved Apple. He did it by trying new things and introducing them by way of cool designs. These days, not so much so.
That's just silly apple fanboy drivel. Some of us would just like for apple to keep up or at least get close to the joneses and when anyone expects apple to do anything understandable someone of your ilk says stupid crap like this. I remember the same thing being said about **** like copy and freaking paste Nd multi tasking and freaking homescreen wallpaper et al ( I could go on and on and ****ing on) and a plethora of other simple things you used to have tojailbreak to do even though all the other phones did it.. I mean think about it I. Realistic terms and quit being silly.
Your history is a bit fractured here.
Apple's first hit was the iPod. It's what has fueled their success as they parlayed the iPod into the iPhone and eventually iPad.
The Mac was never going to get Apple to where they are today. They needed a device that could co-exist between Windows and Mac OS.
Apple's success is about balancing simplicity, design and betting big. I'm not going to discount them because a fraction of users have to have a huge phone. 35 million people last quarter across the Globe decided that 3.5" was "enough" screen.
They aren't apologists they are people that realize that today the iPhone does what they need it to do.
There's no such thing as boring tools there are only boring people.
You guys are the one's being silly. We are talking screen size here. None of that other garbage. This clown just made a thread complaining about a 4.0" screen and demanded a 4.1" screen. Do you realize how ludicrous that sounds? C'mon man.
Google images of ipod. You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry.
The biggest thing apple ever did to reach the masses was get rid of the extensions manager after sticking intel chips into all their computers. You probably have no idea what I'm talking about like 95% of the apple apologists on these boards.
Apple has always been about aggressive design changes. It's the introduction of the iphone which took Apple to the next level but in an ironic way also forced them to abandon many of the philosophies Jobs embraced to take them to this point.
Again google almost any apple product and see their design history up to when intel chips were introduced and then the iphone. Jobs made some choices to go wide but they are losing the core base of professionals and artists who made their iconic brand what it is.
As I type this, I have many artists/designers/filmmaker friends who are abandoning the OS platform because Apple has turned its back on them. Now Apple is focusing on a business model where the base is not loyal and will flock to the latest and biggest. Just how I see things. I've been using apple computers for over thirty years. Have never bought a PC in my life. And I hate to say it but the iphone has hurt as much as it helped them. Now they have to appease a loud tasteless mass instead of a few with very specific innovative needs. Just look at what they are doing to all their video software. They were on the path to dominating that whole field and then they dumbed it down so much to integrate it into ilife that most professionals find it useless.
I actually like being able to hold the phone in one hand and reach anywhere on the screen with the thumb of that hand. I'd like the rounded back again (as on the 3G and 3GS) as it is more comfortable in the hand, however I like a 3.5" screen.
I am really hoping for an iPhone screen of at least 4.3 inches but I don't think I'll be switching anytime soon even if the screen is a mere 4.0 inches. Love the apps too much and I KNOW that the guys at Apple will churn out a beautiful phone.
Most people want a phone which has a nice size and does not seem bulky in the pocket. Maybe you like to have a bulky sized phone in your pocket. However the size of the current iphone suits my needs. Not too bulky and not too small.
Wow, this thread is going downhill fast.
I work in IT as well, and our entire organization uses iPhones. We upgrade every 2 years, so I'll get a new one whether I like it or not. I've owned an Android device (HTC EVO) and while not comparable to the newer stuff, I have basic experience with the platform.
I have a few coworkers who are disappointed by the leaked screen size. And by disappointed, I mean they LIKE the 3.5" screen and don't want it to get bigger in any direction. My experience with the larger screen phones is that while they do still fit in the pocket fine, and are usable, the wider phone does make it slightly more difficult to use 1 hand. I think the "taller phone" thing is being overblown - it's going to be taller by, basically, the length of the screen-to-edge area on the current phone, if that. I've never liked the 4:3 aspect ratio on the phone or iPad, especially for watching video. So if they decide to go to a 16:9 ratio, that's ok with me.
Android does some GREAT things, and is highly customizable, but it just felt unfinished to me. Again, I get that I was on 2.2 and they're up to 4.1 or whatever. Still, it required too much tweaking/micromanaging to setup: the battery life was abysmal due to inefficient coding within the OS, forcing me to micromanage wifi, b/t, whatever. Plus, I never knew if I was going to get an update to the OS. My choices were to either be at the mercy of the phone manufacturer, or to root the phone and do it myself - at the risk of decreasing stability.
The thing about the iPhone, to me, is that users generally fall into 2 categories:
1) It's just a phone, has 0 interest in ecosystem or investment into apps and accessories;
2) It's an extension of an existing ecosystem and money invested into apps and accessories.
I have multiple Apple devices spread across my family, all of which share an account. I regularly utilize the Apple TV with the iPhone/iPad. I use Photo Stream with Aperture on my iMac. I use iTunes Match. I've migrated to the entire Apple ecosystem - not out of fanboydom and not overnight, but gradually over the past 5 years because I like the synergy their devices create.
So to dismiss those of us who aren't complaining about the screen size and/or who will "just get" the next phone as "fanboys" is lazy. I hate that. I moved to Apple products because I *like* them, even when exposed to competing products. Not because they have an apple on the back or some philosophical reasoning. I like the quality, I like the design, I like the functionality, I like the ecosystem. If the next phone has a 4" screen, fine. If it's 4.2", fine. Samsung's phone looks amazing, and I'm sure it is. To many, Android's customization abilities and the market's openness are more important than increased stability and security, and that's fine. But let's stop throwing feces at each other over what phone we use.
(PS love the "pear" phone reference from the Nickelodian series, CPD_1. Hilarious.)
I work in IT as well, and our entire organization uses iPhones. We upgrade every 2 years, so I'll get a new one whether I like it or not. I've owned an Android device (HTC EVO) and while not comparable to the newer stuff, I have basic experience with the platform.
I have a few coworkers who are disappointed by the leaked screen size. And by disappointed, I mean they LIKE the 3.5" screen and don't want it to get bigger in any direction. My experience with the larger screen phones is that while they do still fit in the pocket fine, and are usable, the wider phone does make it slightly more difficult to use 1 hand. I think the "taller phone" thing is being overblown - it's going to be taller by, basically, the length of the screen-to-edge area on the current phone, if that. I've never liked the 4:3 aspect ratio on the phone or iPad, especially for watching video. So if they decide to go to a 16:9 ratio, that's ok with me.
Android does some GREAT things, and is highly customizable, but it just felt unfinished to me. Again, I get that I was on 2.2 and they're up to 4.1 or whatever. Still, it required too much tweaking/micromanaging to setup: the battery life was abysmal due to inefficient coding within the OS, forcing me to micromanage wifi, b/t, whatever. Plus, I never knew if I was going to get an update to the OS. My choices were to either be at the mercy of the phone manufacturer, or to root the phone and do it myself - at the risk of decreasing stability.
The thing about the iPhone, to me, is that users generally fall into 2 categories:
1) It's just a phone, has 0 interest in ecosystem or investment into apps and accessories;
2) It's an extension of an existing ecosystem and money invested into apps and accessories.
I have multiple Apple devices spread across my family, all of which share an account. I regularly utilize the Apple TV with the iPhone/iPad. I use Photo Stream with Aperture on my iMac. I use iTunes Match. I've migrated to the entire Apple ecosystem - not out of fanboydom and not overnight, but gradually over the past 5 years because I like the synergy their devices create.
So to dismiss those of us who aren't complaining about the screen size and/or who will "just get" the next phone as "fanboys" is lazy. I hate that. I moved to Apple products because I *like* them, even when exposed to competing products. Not because they have an apple on the back or some philosophical reasoning. I like the quality, I like the design, I like the functionality, I like the ecosystem. If the next phone has a 4" screen, fine. If it's 4.2", fine. Samsung's phone looks amazing, and I'm sure it is. To many, Android's customization abilities and the market's openness are more important than increased stability and security, and that's fine. But let's stop throwing feces at each other over what phone we use.
(PS love the "pear" phone reference from the Nickelodian series, CPD_1. Hilarious.)
My point wasn't "Hey, lets over do it as a slap in the face!" I was making the point that there are some ridiculously big Android phones out there. If Apple is going to "show how serious they are" about competing with Android by releasing a 4.5" phone, why would they stop there? I've heard people raving (only on the internet) about how great their Galaxy Note is. If someone on the internet says that their Phablet is outstanding, shouldn't Apple cater to those people?
Should Apple decide to keep using a 3.5", their profits would grow fatter. Since they have so much power over the customers, perhaps this is a great solution. Last year at this time, the predominate position on the forum was an overwhelming vote to remain the same.
Man, you just take words out of my mouth! I'm really happy with 4S and anything bigger (I mean screen) probably would not work for me well, my hands are not that big so I can handle bigger screen and my thumb on the hand is almost having issues touch the top left corner of the screen...
Anyway, I can browse or do whatsoever on the iPhone and whenever I need bigger screen I just use iPad when I'm out.
Times change so it's no surprise that the vote has swayed to larger screens.
CPU/GPU specs are nice but at some point you hit the wall with the average consumer in that the device has more power than they'll use so the next thing would be the screen. That is something that they can physically notice.
It would be nice if Apple offered a 3.5" and a 4.3" screen. I don't really see it happening but who knows because they offer a 8GB iPhone4 and I didn't think it would happen. There's really no one size fits all so choices are nice.
As for the profit growing fatter. I'm not sure if it'll be because of the new iPhone. I think if the iPad mini is true they're going to sell like hotcakes though and increase Apples profit. The one thing that really helps Apple is if you're heavily invested in their ecosystem. Then it's a do I really want to switch?
I expect this iPhone to sell but I know a lot of iPhone users who want a bigger screen and have already switched or thinking about switching
These arguments usually always follow the same pattern
If you drive faster than me, you are a maniac
If you drive slower than me, you are a moron
If you want a bigger screen than what I want, you are crazy
If you want a smaller screen than what I want, you need to get with the times
Users typically feel their view represents the majority
But if you have several opposing views, they can't all be the majority view
If you drive faster than me, you are a maniac
If you drive slower than me, you are a moron
If you want a bigger screen than what I want, you are crazy
If you want a smaller screen than what I want, you need to get with the times
Users typically feel their view represents the majority
But if you have several opposing views, they can't all be the majority view
Considering the problems/issues of the past 2 phones these changes are the least Apple can do. And it looks like they're doing exactly that: The least they have to.
And what more can be done with a black, flat rectangle? If you have to ask, I can't help you.
I think they ought to downsize to a 2.78in screen. Having a larger screen is meaningless with iOS since iOS isnt about visuals, its about...ummm..
Might as well make SIRI so competent you can just tell it what app you are trying to open, as well as have SIRI read to you what you are trying to see. Lack of widgets and live wallpaper mean that you can do without screen space.
I seriously dont see what another 0.5in is going to accomplish when your screen is a grid of rectangles (with soft corners) and you mainly use the phone to stream music and pictures from your macbook pro,iMAC, iPod, and apple TV.
Im hungry..
Might as well make SIRI so competent you can just tell it what app you are trying to open, as well as have SIRI read to you what you are trying to see. Lack of widgets and live wallpaper mean that you can do without screen space.
I seriously dont see what another 0.5in is going to accomplish when your screen is a grid of rectangles (with soft corners) and you mainly use the phone to stream music and pictures from your macbook pro,iMAC, iPod, and apple TV.
Im hungry..
Yeah because that's all the iPhone is used for...I think they ought to downsize to a 2.78in screen. Having a larger screen is meaningless with iOS since iOS isnt about visuals, its about...ummm..
Might as well make SIRI so competent you can just tell it what app you are trying to open, as well as have SIRI read to you what you are trying to see. Lack of widgets and live wallpaper mean that you can do without screen space.
I seriously dont see what another 0.5in is going to accomplish when your screen is a grid of rectangles (with soft corners) and you mainly use the phone to stream music and pictures from your macbook pro,iMAC, iPod, and apple TV.
Im hungry..
