Yeah edited after mine and why would you go with Core i5 again?Check my edited post
Yeah edited after mine and why would you go with Core i5 again?Check my edited post
Yeah edited after mine and why would you go with Core i5 again?
12:06 AM is still before 12:22 AM.Um, it was edited before you even posted (you posted while I was adding the i5 info), but I have been editing for the past 10 min.... -.-
You might want to go back to Wikipedia and look at the prices again. Apple would want to slap the Core i7 name on there just to see it rub off on how much performance you're not really getting. Blame Intel for that naming scheme mess.Also, they will be cheaper than i7s leaving Apple with higher margins...
Not going to be i7. It's going to be i5 for notebooks. i7 are too powerful (thermally and power consuming) for a notebook of Apple's design to handle.
[Edit 2 - i7s are going to be for notebooks also, but severely under clocked from their desktop counterparts. Core i7 - 720QM @ 1.6 GHz wit 45W TDP albeit larger 6MB L3 cache & faster DDR3 1333MHz. The fastest i7 chip I can find is the Core i7 - 920XM @ 2.00GHz with increased 8MB L3 cache, same DDR3 as the 720QM, but has a higher 55W TDP]
Edit 1 - I strongly feel Apple will use the following Core i5's for the MacBook Pro line:
Core i5 - 320DM @ 2.00 GHz 4MB L3 cache with 25W TDP | Turbo Boost Clock 2.80 GHz
Core i5 - 420DM @ 2.13 GHz 4MB L3 cache with 25W TDP | Turbo Boost Clock 2.93 GHz
Also, for the high-end MacBook Pro:
Core i5 - 520DM @ 2.66GHz 4MB L3 cache with 35W TDP | Turbo Boost Clock 3.33 GHz
All of them have Dual Channel DDR3 1066MHz Memory Controllers.
These Intel chips will pack quite the punch. Take into account Nehalem based chips have a 22-28% efficiency over equally clocked Penryns. Talk about crunch powah!
12:06 AM is still before 12:15 AM.
You might want to go back to Wikipedia and look at the prices again. Apple would want to slap the Core i7 name on there just to see it rub off.
Lots of sources have the high end Arrandale (the 2.66GHz) as an i7. Also, when is Arrandale release? Some sources have Q4 '09 and the other half have Q1 '10.
Once again, at the same prices and voltages why wouldn't you get the Core i7 just for name alone?$30 difference between the i5s and the low end i7, but, if you go to the next i7 model there is a rough $200 difference
Once again, at the same prices and voltages why wouldn't you get the Core i7 just for name alone?
I think you're confusing Arrandale and Clarksfield. In addition the Core i5 DM processors are priced at the EXACT SAME points as the Core i7 LM/M processors. They're BOTH Arrandale based as well. There are Arrandale Core i7 processors.You'd be going down in clock and potentially kill off some battery life. 45W vs 25-35W.
Clock will be meaningless considering the extra cores, but in real world it wouldn't be much difference, just the name "I have an i7 v you have i5."
I think you're confusing Arrandale and Clarksfield. In addition the Core i5 DM processors are priced at the EXACT SAME points as the Core i7 LM processors. They're BOTH Arrandale based as well. There are Arrandale Core i7 processors.
Using Wikipedia as a source is bad enough so if you're pulling information from somewhere else please feel free to enlighten me.
Once I saw the price points and processor listings on Wikipedia, I realized the Core i5 DM and Core i7 LM/M processors were identical in specifications, prices, and voltages. The only niggle I can think of is the lack of VT-d on the Core i5 processors that I know of for certain.Maybe its my confusion of Clarksfield and Arrandale. So many factors now to look at these beast of chips. I also think its the possibility its almost 12AM and my tired brain is talking incoherences.....
12 AM is early for me.![]()
I'd say early 2010 because there's still enough of a nVidia on Arrandale/Clarkdale mess left unless Apple goes all discrete graphics.Eidorian, jav, what are you guesses for new MBPs? October-November this year, or early 2010. Apple likes to jump on new architectures early like Yonah with the first MBP and Nehalem with the Mac Pro.
Eidorian, jav, what are you guesses for new MBPs? October-November this year, or early 2010. Apple likes to jump on new architectures early like Yonah with the first MBP and Nehalem with the Mac Pro.
Nah, don't think a Penryn update is happening. OEMs are looking to dump Penryns. That why Arrandale was delayed in the first place. Plus, no new Penryn's (at least anything MBP worthy) are in the lineup.
There are no higher clocked Penryn processors. 3.06 is as high as they are going to go. And Apple can't raise the lower models without raising the higher-end models too. It wouldn't be fair.It will most likely be another Penryn update. They can still raise the clockspeeds by a notch to justify calling it an update.
Not trying to be mean but that's still a fail idea. Apple buys lower TDP of the same processor. Most consumers (not us) won't know the difference is Apple uses lower wattage processor and the same clock. 2.8GHz is 2.8GHz no matter what the wattage to them.
Also, NVidia making a chipset for Arrandale procs seems very unnecessary. Arrandales have everything they need. IGP, northbridge. Using an NVidia chipset plus a discrete solution is redundant and would be wasting the IGP and Arrandales other features. Intel has no plans to bring a mobile version of Lynnfield (ie. A dual core processor with no IGP or northbridge) at the moment.
There are no higher clocked Penryn processors. 3.06 is as high as they are going to go. And Apple can't raise the lower models without raising the higher-end models too. It wouldn't be fair.