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iApp Updates Coming: iMovie, iTunes, iPhoto and New App?
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I don't have much beef with any of the iLife apps, but updates are always good (except when iMovie 3.0.0 was much slower than 2.whatever). I'd like to see what they got cooking in Cupertino.
A new app would be good, especially if it is an Appleworks update. Appleworks needs an update but I'd still rather use it than M$ Word. Everytime I open that app I feel a cold shudder go down my spine.
As for namining everything iWhatever, I want to have disk first aid renamed "iFixedit" and the new error message to read "iOops." At least Safari wasn't "iSurf" and it's just Mail, not "iMail."
A new app would be good, especially if it is an Appleworks update. Appleworks needs an update but I'd still rather use it than M$ Word. Everytime I open that app I feel a cold shudder go down my spine.
As for namining everything iWhatever, I want to have disk first aid renamed "iFixedit" and the new error message to read "iOops." At least Safari wasn't "iSurf" and it's just Mail, not "iMail."
Re: Re: Not so sure
Exactly. Apple has put alot of effort into the iSight/iChat A/V for it to be a Mac-only product.
And since PCs are Rendezvous-aware now (see iTunes music sharing), I'm thinking added functionality for iChat and Rendezvous. ie. multiple user video conferencing??? That could be a draw for PC users, albeit it being a niche.
Exactly. Apple has put alot of effort into the iSight/iChat A/V for it to be a Mac-only product.
And since PCs are Rendezvous-aware now (see iTunes music sharing), I'm thinking added functionality for iChat and Rendezvous. ie. multiple user video conferencing??? That could be a draw for PC users, albeit it being a niche.
Hmm..My Wish List.
iPhoto NEEDS HELP! (I prefer using my finder than loading iPhoto)
Speed is all I want now not new features.
iMovie - Speed improvements once again.
iCal- Make it useful to me. I find no real use for it. Surprise me Apple.
iTunes - Allow tracks to be joined in a more funtional way without merging the files.
Mystery iApp hmm... A new appleworks would be neat, or a sound editing software...an itoaster would be neat...all these previous ideas sound intriguing...I'll just hope its free.
P.S. the itoaster should include 3 complimentary bagels or a box of Pop tarts (different flavors of course)
iPhoto NEEDS HELP! (I prefer using my finder than loading iPhoto)
Speed is all I want now not new features.
iMovie - Speed improvements once again.
iCal- Make it useful to me. I find no real use for it. Surprise me Apple.
iTunes - Allow tracks to be joined in a more funtional way without merging the files.
Mystery iApp hmm... A new appleworks would be neat, or a sound editing software...an itoaster would be neat...all these previous ideas sound intriguing...I'll just hope its free.
P.S. the itoaster should include 3 complimentary bagels or a box of Pop tarts (different flavors of course)
iPhoto, while neat when you first use it, has become, in my eyes, THE WORST photo program ever. It crashes or takes the better part of forever when downloading images from either my Canon Powershot S230 or Sony Mavica MVC-CD250 (which, by the way, my 17" 1.25GHz iMac doesn't recognize the finalized cds, so i have to download via USB... uggh). iphoto's album idea is very VERY inefficient, and when i want a pic in an album, _i_want_it_in_an_album_, not a virtual album that just says "this photo here is in this album". and the storage sucks, sorting it by date? no. it should be sorted by album. it is slow, inefficient, and makes working with photos a pain. i've found that using FINDER for photo organizing and image capture for downloading works 1000000x better than iphoto. i'm ashamed that apple calls it their own (which it wasnt at first).
it is good at putting on a slideshow, and red eye reduction rocks. and its got some neat ideas -- just not implemented correctly.
it is good at putting on a slideshow, and red eye reduction rocks. and its got some neat ideas -- just not implemented correctly.
the is for....
I do believe the i had a dual meaning at first. for quite a while after Jobs came back his title was iCEO. The "i" meant interim.
Also, a major selling point for the iMac was that you plug in the power, mouse, keyboard, phone line and you're online and crusing the infobahn. hence i"nternet"Mac.
I do believe the i had a dual meaning at first. for quite a while after Jobs came back his title was iCEO. The "i" meant interim.
Also, a major selling point for the iMac was that you plug in the power, mouse, keyboard, phone line and you're online and crusing the infobahn. hence i"nternet"Mac.
Re: Lots of Appleworks talk
I don't think that Apple would ever bundle a very good presentation program with their computers. After all, what is there to take out of Keynote that wouldn't make the application useless? I've never seen a PC manufacturer bundle Powerpoint with a computer.
I don't think that Apple would ever bundle a very good presentation program with their computers. After all, what is there to take out of Keynote that wouldn't make the application useless? I've never seen a PC manufacturer bundle Powerpoint with a computer.
i tend to think the new iApp will not have an "i" in front. Luckily, apple has moved away from that (keynote, safari, font book, address book). i think a word processor would be excellent. Really, if apple just added openoffice.org document support and MacLinkPlus .doc conversion to the cocoa text engine, TextEdit could just get a few extra features and we would have a full fledged word processor. perhaps it will stay TextEdit, or perhaps we'll get a new app like "Note Book" or "Author".
p.s. for those of you who are interested, the native port of abiword is under way and should be ready by the 2.2 release.
p.s. for those of you who are interested, the native port of abiword is under way and should be ready by the 2.2 release.
Wasn't there a rumor earlier this year that suggested a new app called "Document"?
I think a solid, rich-featured, word processor app is something that should be bundled with OS X. My case being that PC's aren't bundled with M$ Word, or Office... so buy a Mac, or upgrade your OS and get everything out of the box. Simple. It just works.
I think a solid, rich-featured, word processor app is something that should be bundled with OS X. My case being that PC's aren't bundled with M$ Word, or Office... so buy a Mac, or upgrade your OS and get everything out of the box. Simple. It just works.
Re: appleworks replacement
Appleworks is a complete desaster. I think it needs to be redone from scratch, but I don't think we'll see one because m$ has that market.
Also Office X is not to bad. I rarely use an office suite, but MS is my choice for now. It's not great, can cause a lot od problems, but it's still a damn slight faster to use for me than anything else.
Appleworks is a complete desaster. I think it needs to be redone from scratch, but I don't think we'll see one because m$ has that market.
Also Office X is not to bad. I rarely use an office suite, but MS is my choice for now. It's not great, can cause a lot od problems, but it's still a damn slight faster to use for me than anything else.
iPhoto & iTunes become editing apps
Fascinating ideas, Matty P. Very digital-hub-by.
And what about this: iMovie and iDVD let you create and edit movies and DVDs, but right now iTunes and iPhoto only let you edit lists of music and photos (OK, iPhoto has 2 or 3 things it can do like red eye and magic brush, but that's it). What about making iTunes and iPhoto into full-fledged (or even half-fledged, whatever fledged means) editing programs?
iTunes 5 could borrow some technology from the Logic apps and/or Soundtrack, and iPhoto could use some technology from Final Cut and LiveType.
This would let you use iTunes 5 to edit and combine songs, add additional tracks, you know--be a DJ (wasn't Garage Band a registered trademark a while back?).
Like wise, iPhoto 3 would let you add text to images, draw simple shapes, do simple editing.
I mean, with Adobe and Macromedia bundling everything in sight, Apple has to come up with a bundling strategy that includes more than just DVD Studio Pro and Final Cut Pro. They need bitmap and vector editing programs to really compete. They have a lot of technology they've bought in the past two years.
So why not start at the low end (iPhoto/iLife) to get customer feedback? Just a thought.
Fascinating ideas, Matty P. Very digital-hub-by.
And what about this: iMovie and iDVD let you create and edit movies and DVDs, but right now iTunes and iPhoto only let you edit lists of music and photos (OK, iPhoto has 2 or 3 things it can do like red eye and magic brush, but that's it). What about making iTunes and iPhoto into full-fledged (or even half-fledged, whatever fledged means) editing programs?
iTunes 5 could borrow some technology from the Logic apps and/or Soundtrack, and iPhoto could use some technology from Final Cut and LiveType.
This would let you use iTunes 5 to edit and combine songs, add additional tracks, you know--be a DJ (wasn't Garage Band a registered trademark a while back?).
Like wise, iPhoto 3 would let you add text to images, draw simple shapes, do simple editing.
I mean, with Adobe and Macromedia bundling everything in sight, Apple has to come up with a bundling strategy that includes more than just DVD Studio Pro and Final Cut Pro. They need bitmap and vector editing programs to really compete. They have a lot of technology they've bought in the past two years.
So why not start at the low end (iPhoto/iLife) to get customer feedback? Just a thought.
Clarification: I like looking at the thumbnails in the way iPhoto displays them. Plus, sometimes, when I import 200+ pictures per CompactFlash card (like after vacations), I don't have time to title them all... Especially because iPhoto is so darn slow at allowing me to title them
:1) Click on photo, wait for it to become selected (about 2 seconds)
2)Select and delete title, then type in new title and hit "Return"
3) Wait 10 seconds before I can go to step 1 again...
Apple needs a new way to title photos quicker.
So far my prediction list is coming true.
Kinda scary isn't it?
I believe new product will be Apple Word Processor.
Eventually I think Apple will kill off AppleWorks once it gets a new set of apps to bundle together or replace it with another name office suite.
All the iLife apps will see major and minor updates. Most them probably UI tweaks, making it faster, and bug fixes.
I feel iTunes will become iTunes 5 since they need to be ready for new Apple Music Stores opening up next yr.
Kinda scary isn't it?
I believe new product will be Apple Word Processor.
Eventually I think Apple will kill off AppleWorks once it gets a new set of apps to bundle together or replace it with another name office suite.
All the iLife apps will see major and minor updates. Most them probably UI tweaks, making it faster, and bug fixes.
I feel iTunes will become iTunes 5 since they need to be ready for new Apple Music Stores opening up next yr.
I just don't see Apple releasing an Office suite.
Allow Mac users to free themselves from MS dependence? More like Apple freeing themselves from corporate desktop dependence without Office compatibility.
If Apple releases a competitor to Office, MS retaliates and cuts off Macs from the corporate world.
Re: Re: Re: iApp Updates Coming: iMovie, iTunes, iPhoto and New App?
Look at europe, biggest country is Germany with some 76 million people, followed by france and the UK i think. Differnet countries, different laws, differnet service providers... I'm establishing very simple services all over europe, but that is already an extremely timeconsuming task. All those languages, completely crazy. Never mind differnet ways of thinking, differnet interface expectations, etc.
The french are the worst with their language, the germans will do everything technically completely different needing to have it their own way, italians are mostly chaotic, but nice britans are incredibly slow for whatever reasons, and all the others are peculiar in their own way.
Damn, if you can make it there....
Do you think that is a big market for apple? Just look at the odds - USA how many inhabitants? probably 700 million, all one language, one service provider - easy.
Look at europe, biggest country is Germany with some 76 million people, followed by france and the UK i think. Differnet countries, different laws, differnet service providers... I'm establishing very simple services all over europe, but that is already an extremely timeconsuming task. All those languages, completely crazy. Never mind differnet ways of thinking, differnet interface expectations, etc.
The french are the worst with their language, the germans will do everything technically completely different needing to have it their own way, italians are mostly chaotic, but nice
britans are incredibly slow for whatever reasons, and all the others are peculiar in their own way. Damn, if you can make it there....
I disagree. Why would/should MS continue Office development if Apple had a direct competitor? Apple would surely have an advantage as to OS hooks that MS does not have. MS could throw the same anti-trust arguement back at Apple. A very slippery slope here.
geerlingguy: Everything you've said about iPhoto is spot on. It is horribly slow, especially if you have a camera in the 4megapixel+ range. And losing your albums when you archive to CD is really annoying. I'm close to giving up on iPhoto entirely (and probably moving to iView Media Pro which seems to be pretty fast).
PS, visor: You are way, way off on the US population. It is currently less than 300 million. (US census info)
PS, visor: You are way, way off on the US population. It is currently less than 300 million. (US census info)
I agree Apple works upgrade is a necessity. AND I agree MS may not be happy, and there are rumors of new MS products in January. But MS will do what they do, and I'd rather see Apple release a good product than stop in case of Microsoft.
Anyway, Appleworks used to compete with Microsoft Works - NOT MSOffice which was a different market. Maybe Apple can market a new clean, elegant, Appleworks as simply that - an improvement to something they already had. Later, with the well designed core, they would have the option for a "Pro" version with more functionality, Keynote, and Filemaker Pro.
Doubt it with only 5% of the market share if MS did that it would only look like bully tactic.
Also the samething could be said about MS since they make their own office suite for themselves and Apple could always make version of theirs as well for Windows.
MS does not want another anti-trust case tossed their way so they will play it safe or bare the full brunt of another 5yrs of anti-trust cases.
Re: Re: Re: Not so sure
They've put a lot of work into Mac OS X as well, but I doubt the PC version will be out anytime soon.
iTunes for Windows was made because Apple's music strategy wouldn't work without it. There's no compelling business reason to make iChat for the PC--and no, having more people to chat with isn't a compelling reason. Besides, Apple has stated that the protocal for the AV portion is open, so that if another developer wished to make a broader product there could be interoperability. AOL will likely do this when they introduce video into AIM next year.
They've put a lot of work into Mac OS X as well, but I doubt the PC version will be out anytime soon.
iTunes for Windows was made because Apple's music strategy wouldn't work without it. There's no compelling business reason to make iChat for the PC--and no, having more people to chat with isn't a compelling reason. Besides, Apple has stated that the protocal for the AV portion is open, so that if another developer wished to make a broader product there could be interoperability. AOL will likely do this when they introduce video into AIM next year.