IBM and Motorola Diverging

[gjohns01]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Case closed.

Originally posted by TechLarry


Who could _possibly_ follow this thread? The 'conditions' keep changing!

Which is basically the point I'm trying to make 🙂

To indicate how out of hand it's gotten, please remember that the INITIAL, ridiculous post was the guy claiming he could build a dual-processor computer system for under $500.

And here we are 🙂

TL

Guess what buddy. Ridiculous? NOT! Do a little digging on PriceWatch and you can pick up the following.

ECS D6VAA Dual P3 Mother board - $49
2 x Pentium III 733 - $84/per
512MB DIMM - $65
16x10x40 CD-RW - $37
40GB Hard Drive - $52
Geforce2 MX200 32MB - $30
Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live 5.1 - $26
Generic Tower Case with 400W PS. - $25
Floppy Drive - $3
MS Natural Elite Keyboard - $14
MS Intellimouse Explorer - $27
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Grand Total - $492

What?!!?! Sounds like a dual processor system to me. Oh so sorry forgot the NIC. You can grab a Netgear for $6. So it's still good. I just happened to have extra parts lying around. But it's completely possible. Throw in Linux or a BSD. You have a $500 low end server. Is there anything else you'd like to be schooled on Larry?

 

[TechLarry]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Case closed.

Originally posted by gjohns01


Guess what buddy. Ridiculous? NOT! Do a little digging on PriceWatch and you can pick up the following.

ECS D6VAA Dual P3 Mother board - $49
2 x Pentium III 733 - $84/per
512MB DIMM - $65
16x10x40 CD-RW - $37
40GB Hard Drive - $52
Geforce2 MX200 32MB - $30
Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live 5.1 - $26
Generic Tower Case with 400W PS. - $25
Floppy Drive - $3
MS Natural Elite Keyboard - $14
MS Intellimouse Explorer - $27
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Grand Total - $492

What?!!?! Sounds like a dual processor system to me. Oh so sorry forgot the NIC. You can grab a Netgear for $6. So it's still good. I just happened to have extra parts lying around. But it's completely possible. Throw in Linux or a BSD. You have a $500 low end server. Is there anything else you'd like to be schooled on Larry?

And what a mighty fine system it is 🙂

TL

 

[gjohns01]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Case closed.

Originally posted by TechLarry


And what a mighty fine system it is 🙂

TL

🙂 The point is that it can be done. If someone would like to build a system that matches and/or exceeds the current top of the line Mac, they can do it for a roughly 1/2 the price. Let's see a maxed out G4 Server for $7400 versus the following:

SuperMicro P4DC6+ Dual Xeon Mobo w/ 2 x 2ghz Xeon processors - $1461
Adaptec Raptor Zero-CH Raid Card - $273
4 x 512MB RIMM - $122/per
SuperMicro 4U Rackmount/Tower Chasis w Power Supply and 7 Ultra160 SCSI hot swap carriers - $425
3 x Seagate 73 GB 10000RPM Ultra-160 Drives - $385/per
2 x SMC Networks Gigabit Ethernet Card - $102/per
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Total $4006 - throw in another $100+ for cd-rom, sound, video, keyboard and mouse. You've got a machine that will out do your best with hardware raid and dual gigabit NICS.

All I was suggesting in my initial statement was that Apple needs to really price better and take steps into the enterprise where I would love for them to be. I used to use my Mac everyday, now it's powered off. The situation is getting increasingly worse because Intel, AMD, Microsoft are not sitting idle. Altivec or no Altivec, the better design won't keep up with raw power for long. And without the dev tools and software I need to work with I can't justify buying another one.