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Well I work(ed) for IBM, but got sold to AT&T. I'm in Canada which means I get nothing for employee plans from Rogers... :p But yeah I use Notes which I think will eventually go away. I don't use it very intensively.. It's just the email client, but also the place all the documentation gets dumped in into teamrooms.. Not sure how Exchange could do that so from this view, it's a nice solution... Not sold on the iPhone version because then I could take work home with me (you know.. more so than having a T60 issued to me).. I wouldn't mind getting some magic perks for being with IBM in terms of trying it though :p
 
It's better than Novell Groupwise!

Anything is better than Novell Groupwise. NGW is the worst ever, I had to suffer through 5 years at a company with it. they even agreed they made a mistake getting it, but they are not quick to change software (still using MS Office 97 - as they claim there is no good reason to upgrade).
 
I work for Stony Brook University, and the entire campus uses Lotus Notes. That includes 1,900 faculty, at least that many adjunctive services employees, and a large hospital with over 6,000 employees. That's over 10,000 people using the system. :(
 
Who Uses Notes?

I work for an organisation with 36000 users. All use Lotus Notes. :eek:
 
not good at all. My company has over 12k employees and they force us to use lotus notes and everybody knows I have an iPhone. I refused to pick up a crackberry.

Maybe this is another sign to move on since they force me to code in Delphi.
 
We use Lotus Notes at my corporation (about 1500 corporate users world wide) and I have to say that I for one would much rather have a Webmail app than a true corporate app that our IT dept would have to set up. IT depts still aren't comfortable with a Mac install base as a whole yet I've found.

I don't want the corporation to have to touch my personal iPhone just so I can check my work email while on the road.
 
I also think this would be better if it was a native app, but I was wondering, would that not be possible to do, as it would be direct competition to the iPhones mail app? Isn't that something that Apple would disallow?

I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm pretty sure things like email clients are not allowed under the Ts and Cs of the development program. So unless they make a "blessed" app like Google, I assume they have to do it as a web app.

So I guess this means no saving emails etc for viewing offline.
 
Hey, they finally finished making their little web app; now that everybody else is making real applications...
 
Looks good for those who companies who use Lotus Notes.

Maybe someday it will transform into an app.

Nice to see IBM supporting the iPhone platform.
 
We use Notes at work. I can't stand it. I'm not sure if this is good or bad news for me personally. Likely it won't matter as my backward-a$$ company probably won't let corporate e-mail be viewed on any device they don't own. :mad:

One more reason why I need a new job....
 
Web apps can be fine, but...

This is a big deal, as Notes still has about a 10% market share for groupware, which is not insignificant. Web apps can work pretty nicely for webmail and calendars, as Google has proven. The problem here is business people need to see their emails, contacts, and calendars when offline (e.g. while flying). Exchange support on the iPhone can replace a Blackberry for most people, but this simply can't. It's a good start, however, and hopefully IBM is developing full Notes support, or coordinating with Apple to build it in.
 
Like to rephrase that?

in my company of 46,000 employees only about 1,800 are using notes, every one else is happy using exchange.

'Happy'? Exchange is such a painful example of Microsoft's inconsistent, confusing and tedious applications.
 
Crap choice A vs crap choice B.

Exactly. Both equally bad applications compared to what we could be running.
We have a mix of both, around 170,000 Notes users and 118,000 Exchange users and the grand plan to migrate all the Notes people to Exchange has been in the planning stage for the last year.
 
Cooool ... a web app. :rolleyes: I like how in the little banner there they felt the need to add in a fake Mac OS X scroll bar on the iPhone. :rolleyes:

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An active scroll bar would actually be quite good in the iPhone. The black ones that appear should be selectable after appearing, before they disappear. it only makes sense especially since i have so many bookmarks and when scrolling through many mails.
 
I worked with a company that used Lotus Notes and I must say that it is the worst designed, most cumbersome and simply dire package I have ever used. It was unspeakably, laughably, mindlessly badly-designed. It was so bad I cannot understand why it is still in use. If good design has its reward in devoted fan-boys and girls, satisfied and loyal costumers, and basking in the warm glow of memory, bad and poor design should be consigned to history's dustbin and assigned to oblivion. As others who have posted on this thread have remarked, it makes all of the MS software look effortless and flawlessly designed by contrast. I cannot believe that anyone in their right mind - with function, ease of use, basic competence as criteria (rather than profit) - would ever seriously installing and using it in anything, be it a company/institution/or a revolutionary piece of design.

Another thread discusses whether, which and why people have or do not have iPhones. I'm a long time iPod fan and recent MBP switcher, and am very happy with these parts of the Apple world. Currently, for a variety of reasons, - restrictive contracts, limited functions, high pricing, - I don't have an iPhone, but am open to conversion. If, however, Lotus Notes becomes the standard, then, that is one Apple product I will never contemplate switching to. Words fail me.
Cheers.
 
Exactly. I can't believe businesses still abuse their employees with this.

I can't believe businesses use Exchange. :) I guess I'm biased, I've been using Notes since v4, we have 6.5/7 at my current office. Would be nice to be able to access my email without havign to bring my Blackberry around. :)
 
I dunno... I use Notes, think it's great for my peculiar needs. And I can count all the employees in my company on one hand... err... finger.

I use the IMAP support to access Domino mail. Works just fine. Not push, but still works just fine.

If IBM was really trying to do something interesting here, they've certainly got an opportunity to. They could get together with Apple and add in Notes support at the same tier as they've done with Exchange. Being able to sync mail, contacts and calendars with Notes the same way that is done (from the user's perspective) with MobileMe seems within their grasp.
 
my company uses notes. We really don't have much of a choice but it has done it's job. So no complaints here.
 
I also think this would be better if it was a native app, but I was wondering, would that not be possible to do, as it would be direct competition to the iPhones mail app? Isn't that something that Apple would disallow?

I don't see why they would.

You're still using the same network connection. And you still bought the iPhone. They're not losing any money from it. That would be like Apple not allowing Firefox on Macs.
 
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