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IBM Producing 65nm Chips?

dude ****

Originally posted by jero
http://maddox.xmission.com/xbox_suckit.html

1 part of my 7 reasons why the xbox xan suck it:

"Here are some examples of the bull**** games on the Xbox:


Max Payne - Wait, so not only do I lose the ability to adjust my resolution and system specs to improve performance, but I get a game that's been out for months on PC already? Where do I sign? The game's not too bad, but why bother with it on Xbox when it's on PC already?

HMMM but its so much more convenient sitting infront of the telly.


Nightcaster - How original, a rushed third-person RPG title with four magic types: light, dark, fire and water. But wait, here's where the strategy comes in: use water against fire, light against dark enemies, etc. Brilliant.

yes, but for every **** game, the Xbox has an increadible game. And sometimes one's you can't play on other systems. For example, Shenmue 2. (i have the UK DC version, but still...)

Blood Wake - I liked this game better when it was called Twisted Metal and you drove cars instead of boats. Unoriginal, uninspired.

yes, but why concentrate on these **** piece of crap games which cost £5, when there are so many amazing driving games. those who've played Project Gotham 1/2 would punch you.

Azurik: Rise of Perathia - Would have been more aptly titled "Azurik: Onset of Paralysis." Bad gameplay, poor camera, muddy textures, lame characters. Does the fun ever start?

Boring!

Star Wars: Obi-Wan - More like "Star Wars: Obi-Wanna-Play-A-Different-Game." Poor AI, poor controls, boring environments. Any non-geeks care to play this? Doubtful.

wake me up at the end

Bruce Lee: Quest of the Dragon - Broken gameplay, bad camera work, cheesy voice acting, and the game crashes. All this crap for just $50? It's a win/win situation for publishers: put a lackluster effort into development and make boat-loads of cash off of suck-er.. customers.

yes, lets concentrate on this **** beat-em-up.. i mean all fighting games on XBOX are like this right>? wrong. dumbass. Soul Calibre 2 anyone, DOA3? and as for the whole pc vs xbox ****, how many 3d fighting games, even to the poor standard of Bruce Lee above.. can u get on PC?? How manY? NONE !

You seem to concentrate on the few many crap games on XBOX, and fail to remember that the knowledgeable games buying doesn't have the money or time to buy 100 games a year. There are some truely unique games on XBOX, games i love dearly (Jet Set Radio/amped/panza dragoon aeorta/project gotham/Shenmue 2/Brute Force/Metal Gear Solid 2/Splinter Cell/soul Calibre 2/UFC/Nightfire/Time Splitters 2/Red Faction 2/Halo/Gun Valkerie/GTA3 double pack/freedom fighters will all keep my thumbs happy for a long while yet.)
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Originally posted by crees!
I would like to hear more thoughts about IBM's roadmap than about the XBox, PS2 or any other gaming system. Stick to the topic and how it benefits Apple, please ;)
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Does anyone know what proportion of IBMs PowerPCs go to Mac?
Are we at 50%? 10%?

If XBox2 sells the same number of consoles as XBox did, is it significant? (PS2 & Nintendo are also with IBM right?)

IBM is going to focus development where they're getting $ from. If that becomes games consoles and IBM servers... could it lead to greater technological investment for iBox and PowerMacs but not as much investment in the iMac & Laptop area?

(edit: XBox sentence didn't make sense)
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Last chance to get back on-topic folks. If the console wars keep raging here, it's gonna get closed.

Start a new thread in the gaming forum if you want to continue this line of discussion.
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no problem. sorry again haha.
 
First, all of this talk of XBox 2 using the G5 chip is that... talk. It's ALL speculation. No one knows for sure what the next XBox will use.

That being said. What I REALLY find interesting (which, funny enough, no one has brough up) is that IBM is the real winner here. For PS3, XBox 2 (whatever they call it), AND GameCube 2 (whatever they call it), guess who's makin'/developing the processor for all THREE consoles? That's right... IBM.

Big blue keeps crawlin' back.

w00master
 
Originally posted by GregAussie
Does anyone know what proportion of IBMs PowerPCs go to Mac?
Are we at 50%? 10%?
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I couldn't say, but I did some calculating when Motorola said that they'd sold their 6 millonth G4 processor. That indicated that Apple had bought 2/3 och even 3/4 of all G4s made.

Apple doesn't currently buy any other chip from IBM than 970 and I guess they get 90-95% of those.

But I think IBM sells quite a lot of their embedded chips, like 405 and 440 series, and there's a lof of G3s going into printers and such.
 
@ Henroik

You are sure that AAPL doesnt get anything but the PPC970 from IBM?

Maybe they get some G3s too.

And if they got "vectorized" G3s they (AAPL) could also call them G4 for marketing reasons (and put them in iBooks and iMacs ;)...

But I know there are ways to identify the CPU buy its real CPU name...
rumors would have spread fast that the G4 had been a altivec'ed G3 by IBM if that had been the fact.

so... I don't know

Still I do ask, are you sure, that the G5 is the only CPU IBM delivers to AAPL?
 
Re: @ Henroik

Originally posted by ionas
You are sure that AAPL doesnt get anything but the PPC970 from IBM?
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No.. They get samples of yet undisclosed chips and probably some older G3s just to have for spare parts, but this would be such a small volume that it probably doesn't count. Lets say that they have 1000 processors of the future 750VX that's still around 0.1% of the total amount of 970s they've bought.

When the Xbox 2, PS3 and Gamecube 2 goes into production they will probably all be larger customers of PowerPC-processors than Apple is.
 
Originally posted by silvergunuk
Would be good if apple, sega and nintendo made a console. Apple designed it would be 1 sexy beast. Now virtua fighter using dual G5s .......drool...
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Uhm... I hope not. Remember the Pippin?
 
I would love to see an off shoot of the iPod as a mobile gaming device. Sorta like the GameBoy but better. Gaming and Music is a good marriage.

~e
 
could this be the start of an alliance between ibm, microsoft, apple and amd?
I mean, if they all start working together with the same processor tech, then ...
 
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