iBook G3 clamshell, iBook G4 or PowerBook G4?

garirry

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I thought earlier that I will buy an iBook G3 Clamshell in June this year. However, now I'm thinking should I waste money for an old, obsolete and maybe useless computer? Beside, I am planning to install Jaguar on this thing. Now, I think maybe to buy an iBook or Powerbook G4 so I could have a fast computer and so I could put Tiger or Leopard. What do you think I should buy?
 

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I thought earlier that I will buy an iBook G3 Clamshell in June this year. However, now I'm thinking should I waste money for an old, obsolete and maybe useless computer? Beside, I am planning to install Jaguar on this thing. Now, I think maybe to buy an iBook or Powerbook G4 so I could have a fast computer and so I could put Tiger or Leopard. What do you think I should buy?
If you get a clam get os 9 on that thing and not os x, I would recommend a 17 inch powerbook g4 1.67ghz and run either tiger or leopard on it, Not panther or jaguar.
 

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I would not buy a 17 inch, since it's too big and it will not even fit in my computer case. So a 12 or 15 inch Aluminum with Leopard would be OK?
 

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Get the PB 1.67 15", it's a great machine but be aware to test the RAM on it, some PB do have the lower slot RAM problem.
The latest high res model is the best one.

(Powerbook 5.8 15" double layer sd)
 

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Get the PB 1.67 15", it's a great machine but be aware to test the RAM on it, some PB do have the lower slot RAM problem.
The latest high res model is the best one.
second this...(check both ram slots)...the powerbook with a least a couple gigs of ram and leopard could even be used for daily use...
 

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I recently bought a 15 inch Powerbook G4 (1.67) and I've yet to stop singing its praises. Nine years old and it still has what it takes.

Of course, you shouldn't expect 2013 speeds from it, but mine runs splendidly for basic work and some entertainment. I run DS CS4, Aperture 2, FCP 5 and MSO2008 on mine, and believe it or not, it runs quite well for its age. However it is equipped with 2gb ram and the fastest spinner on the market so dont expect the same from stock config.

My only complaint is that it does not play 720p. Otherwise, I might as well use the PB instead of my hackintoshed Lenovo.

I wonder how MintPPC would run on this thing. It sped up my Pismo enough to be usable, albeit for a patient user.
 

garirry

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So, I will start searching for 12 and 15 inch PBG4 so I will finally have my first Mac portable. By the way, if I upgrade to 1.5 GB of RAM to my iMac and install Leopard on it, is that a good idea?
 

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So, I will start searching for 12 and 15 inch PBG4 so I will finally have my first Mac portable. By the way, if I upgrade to 1.5 GB of RAM to my iMac and install Leopard on it, is that a good idea?
Which imac is it? IMHO, Leopard is unusable on anything below 1.25GHZ G4. Of course, it also requires a QE/CI compatible GPU.

That said, I've used leopard with 1GB ram and its not terrible. Wouldn't call it snappy, though.
 

garirry

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Which imac is it? IMHO, Leopard is unusable on anything below 1.25GHZ G4. Of course, it also requires a QE/CI compatible GPU.

That said, I've used leopard with 1GB ram and its not terrible. Wouldn't call it snappy, though.
FAKE: Leopard requires 867MHZ G4. I have the latest iMac 1.25GHZ 17" with USB 2.0. It currently have 512 MB of RAM, but since Tiger is slow with that, I think upgrading to 1.5 GB will make my computer faster, even with Leopard.
 

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I run OSX-leopard on a 1.33GHz/1.5GB iBook (well mostly I run a completly different OS that doesn't matter here) and it's o.k.

Your iMac would have a slighly slower CPU and a better GPU so you should be o.k.


Bout buying a PowerBook, the 2nd RAM-slot issue is only present in the older "lowres" 1.67GHz 15", if you buy the "highres" (1440x900) model you should be o.k.
 

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I run OSX-leopard on a 1.33GHz/1.5GB iBook (well mostly I run a completly different OS that doesn't matter here) and it's o.k.

Your iMac would have a slighly slower CPU and a better GPU so you should be o.k.


Bout buying a PowerBook, the 2nd RAM-slot issue is only present in the older "lowres" 1.67GHz 15", if you buy the "highres" (1440x900) model you should be o.k.
The highres model, as I think you mean it, it's only available in 17". Only the 1.67GHz 15" model has 1440x960. Maybe it has nothing to do with screen resolutions, but I will not buy an 17" PBG4.
 

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The highres model, as I think you mean it, it's only available in 17". Only the 1.67GHz 15" model has 1440x960. Maybe it has nothing to do with screen resolutions, but I will not buy an 17" PBG4.
No, the last models of 15" and 17" Powerbooks, released on October 19 2005, are the Hi-Res models.
 

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The 15" HighRes (PowerBook5.8) is indeed 1440x960, the 17" (5.9) has 1680x1050.

Older 17" (5.7 5.5 ...) had 1440x900 (hence my slight confusion) while older 15" (5.6 5.4 ...) only did 1280x854.

What you really want to want is a PowerBook 5.8 aka A1138
 

garirry

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The 15" HighRes (PowerBook5.8) is indeed 1440x960, the 17" (5.9) has 1680x1050.

Older 17" (5.7 5.5 ...) had 1440x900 (hence my slight confusion) while older 15" (5.6 5.4 ...) only did 1280x854.

What you really want to want is a PowerBook 5.8 aka A1138
If I would be lucky. Basically, instead of searching on eBay, I prefer posting an ad, and everyone who wants to sell an PBG4 will send me a message. How about 50$ for an 12" and 60$ for an 15"? Is that good prices?
 

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Is that canadian $ ?? That would be only 37/45Euro :eek:

For that kind of money I wouldn't expect anything but older models who had beaten most of their lives out of them :p