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Hughmac

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Mucking around in the garage yesterday, I came across my old 12" iBook G4 1.33 and thought I'd fire it up, format the hard drive and then trash it.
After charging the battery I started it up and found everything working fine, updated TenFourFox to the latest, tinkered around a bit and decided to keep it. It's on Leopard by the way ;)
TenFourFox working much better and more quickly than I remember, and all those PPC games to play with :)

The battery is good, only 80 cycles, and I also have a spare.

The only problem is the airport card gives KPs when enabled (a common trouble I believe), so I'm using a USB wireless module which works fine.

I'm typing this on the iBook at the moment, but, is it worth the bother of totally stripping it down to put an SSD in?
Looking at a Kingspec 64GB for about £40, or a 64GB CF card with IDE adapter? Failing that I have a 60GB 5400 spinner to spare; the original 40GB 4200 is still in place at the moment.

Thoughts?

Cheers :)

Hugh
 
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From what I was aware, and from what I've seen, those Kingspec SSD'd perform rather poorly (will try find one of the tests I found and post it). Other than that, sounds like a nice machine to keep hold of, even with a hard drive. I just finished (well, nearly) referring a PowerBook G4 15 and 17, 17 just needing a new airport card I think (and hope!). Kept the original mechanical drives in them though just for sake of originality, but I do believe if you want to go the SSD route there's a product that performs much, much better than the Kingspec, again as show in the comparisons between it. Might have been a CF to IDE adapter actually if I'm remembering correctly.
 

z970

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It is very much worth it if you intend on using the thing. Make sure you get an mSATA, however. Everything else is slow.
 
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amagichnich

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but, is it worth the bother of totally stripping it down to put an SSD in?
It definitely is! It feels much faster, it is absolutely quiet most of the time and the battery lasts longer. Why do I say it feels faster? You do not get the speed difference you get with updating your 5 year old laptop due to the old hardware. The ide controller is not the fastest (compared to e.g. an eMac) and the system bus is very slow. You will see a big difference in starting small apps like Safari and in reaction time dependent scenarios like Exposé, dashboard and minimising apps. As well es waking up from standby and reading data from cached out files (harddrive swap). I have an ssd in my 12" and I'm amazed every day I use it
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64GB CF card with IDE adapter?
Just don't do this, use an ssd instead, it will make you much happier
 
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z970

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I have an ssd in my 12" and I'm amazed every day I use it

I've got to agree.

Mine (1.33) has been repasted, has new pads, maxxed RAM, a 32gb mSATA, a super optimized Leopard install, and turns out to be a fantastic little notebook that never fails to get the job done.

My only complaint is that the keyboard isn't similar enough to the PowerBook's. ;)
 

Hughmac

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So, an mSATA with IDE adapter? Works out cheaper than a PATA SSD :)

I might even be able to re-solder the airport card while I'm inside, with a little care.

Thanks everyone, worth thinking about.

It's working faster already than my Dell Mini hackintosh ever did, an Intel machine with a SATA SSD :D

Cheers :)

Hugh
 
So, an mSATA with IDE adapter? Works out cheaper than a PATA SSD :)

I might even be able to re-solder the airport card while I'm inside, with a little care.

Thanks everyone, worth thinking about.

It's working faster already than my Dell Mini hackintosh ever did, an Intel machine with a SATA SSD :D

Cheers :)

Hugh

Yes. Or an m.2-to-IDE adapter. Either will be far less spendy than a PATA SSD!
 
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GanChan

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I just plugged mine back in for the first time in years. The battery doesn't work, but that looks like a cheap fix. The screen is getting kind of blotchy, but i guess I could always attach an external display if I'm too lazy to replace this one. I also happen to have a new Seagate Fast SDD on its way to me -- can I run my iBook off of it and still use it with my intel Mini and Chromebook?
 

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I just plugged mine back in for the first time in years. The battery doesn't work, but that looks like a cheap fix. The screen is getting kind of blotchy, but i guess I could always attach an external display if I'm too lazy to replace this one. I also happen to have a new Seagate Fast SDD on its way to me -- can I run my iBook off of it and still use it with my intel Mini and Chromebook?
You'll need an IDE-->SATA adapter. Not sure if together they'd fit in the case. iBooks are all IDE.

There are alternatives however, such as an mSATA with a IDE-->SATA adapter/casing.
 

GanChan

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You'll need an IDE-->SATA adapter. Not sure if together they'd fit in the case. iBooks are all IDE.

There are alternatives however, such as an mSATA with a IDE-->SATA adapter/casing.

This would be an external USB drive. But I see what you're saying.
 
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Hughmac

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My Lite-On 64GB m-SATA SSD has arrived, just waiting for the adapter now.

I dug out an old external firewire hard drive and backed the system up with Carbon Copy Cloner, so I'll be ready for surgery soon.

Also on that hard drive are two other partitions with standard fully updated 10.4.11 and 10.5.8 installations, very useful in emergencies ;)

Amazingly I've just got my Canon MG5500 printer working over wi-fi using the Gutenprint 5.2.10 drivers.

Cheers :)

Hugh
 

z970

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May I recommend this video by the excellent 8-Bit Guy, formerly known as The iBook Guy.


Helped me tons of times.
 
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Hughmac

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Thanks, I'll watch it later on my 2012 MacBook Pro as it's not very happy on this iBook ;)
I also have the iFixit guide to hand.

Cheers :)

Hugh
 
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GanChan

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Hey, can I just keep using my iBook even with a battery that won't hold a charge -- just keep it plugged in and use it as a non-mobile device? Or does that pose any risks, etc?
 

amagichnich

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Hey, can I just keep using my iBook even with a battery that won't hold a charge -- just keep it plugged in and use it as a non-mobile device? Or does that pose any risks, etc?
Just have a look at the battery from time to time, they tend to bloat when damaged or too weak. Especially the cheap ones
 

Hughmac

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Or just get a new battery - there's one on eBay (UK) for £26 from Germany, brand new but not a genuine Apple, so they are still around.
[doublepost=1556573055][/doublepost]One thing that's bugging me about this iBook is that most times I boot it up it goes into open firmware :(
I can't work out why, and it sometimes takes a few tries to get it to boot normally into Leopard.
I normally keep it running and just close the lid to sleep when I've finished but occasionally need to shut it down.

Any ideas?

Cheers :)

Hugh
 
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eyoungren

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Hey, can I just keep using my iBook even with a battery that won't hold a charge -- just keep it plugged in and use it as a non-mobile device? Or does that pose any risks, etc?
I run all my laptops off the power supply. Most of them aren't being used outside the house anyway and I'm too cheap to constantly keep replacing batteries. The ones I have in there now are sufficient to provide enough power to keep the laptops sleeping if I take them off the power supply but other than they they serve to fill the hole that not having a battery would leave.
 
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