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iBook Radeon 9550 and CoreImage

MUCKYFINGERS said:
taken from Apple.com:

When a programmable GPU is present, Core Image utilizes the graphics card for image processing operations, freeing the CPU for other tasks. And if you have a high-performance card with increased video memory (VRAM), you'll find real-time responsiveness across a wide variety of operations.

Core Image-capable graphics cards include:

* ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
* ATI Radeon 9600, 9600 XT, 9650, 9800 XT, X800 XT
* nVidia GeForce FX Go 5200
* nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
* nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL, 6800 GT DDL
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Looks like it doesn't support it, folks.
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Give it time. When Tiger first came out, the did not list I believe one of the following as compatible: The Radeon 9600 or NVidia Go 5200. Then they updated a few days after. Just give it a few days. You will see.
 
Confirmation that new iBook Radeon 9550 has Tiger Core Image/Video Support - Earlier today I mentioned the new iBook line is using the Radeon 9550 graphics chip and guessed it had Tiger Core Image/Video support (since the desktop 9550 is based on the R3xx/9600 series) but wrote a contact at ATI to verify that (yes it is).
Apple's iBook graphics page mentions quartz extreme support but didn't mention Tiger Core Image/Core Video support.
(For those that missed the posts here earlier this year - although the OS X Tiger page listed a Mobility 9700/Desktop 9600XT or higher was required, the Mobility 9600 and non-XT 9600 also have Core Image/Video support in Tiger.)
Douglas Trachta sent a link to an X-Bit labs article on the desktop Radeon 9550 from a few months ago that might be of interest also. (I hope to have more info on the iBook's 9550 mobility chip/performance soon.)

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Got that from http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/
 
MUCKYFINGERS said:
taken from Apple.com:

When a programmable GPU is present, Core Image utilizes the graphics card for image processing operations, freeing the CPU for other tasks. And if you have a high-performance card with increased video memory (VRAM), you'll find real-time responsiveness across a wide variety of operations.

Core Image-capable graphics cards include:

* ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
* ATI Radeon 9600, 9600 XT, 9650, 9800 XT, X800 XT
* nVidia GeForce FX Go 5200
* nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
* nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL, 6800 GT DDL
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Looks like it doesn't support it, folks.
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I've been looking around for the answer to this... and I think Luca from the Think Secret forums explained it quite well:

Taken from there:

Luca said:
Apple's official list is way too short. CoreImage is such that it requires a video card with Pixel Shader 2.0 to work. The Radeon 9550 has this capability. The 9550 is basically the same as the 9600, just clocked a little slower. Since clock speed has nothing at all to do with CoreImage, it will be compatible.

Mobility vs. non-Mobility doesn't matter either. Mobility just means slower (to generate less heat for use in a notebook). ATI cards that include support for the features necessary include these Radeons:

9500
9550
9600
9650
9700
9800
X300
X600
X700
X800
X850

As well as all variants to these... SE, Pro, XT, and Mobility. nVidia cards that should support Core Image include these GeForces:

5200
5500
5600
5700
5800
5900
5950
6200
6600
6800
7800

And all variants of these as well (XT, LE, GT, Ultra, Go).

FYI, Apple also neglects to list the Radeon 9600 Pro and the Mobility Radeon 9600, both of which support Core Image.
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Wooo! Core Imaging!
 
The card is supported; besides, like somebody else pointed out, it would be silly for Apple to bump a non-Core Image compatible card up to another non-Core Image compatible card at this juncture.

I expect the next revision of the Mac mini to have a 9550 too. At that point the entire Apple line will be fully Core Image compatible.

32MB of VRAM is a bit scroogy, but even the Radeon 9200 blows away a lot of the crappy integrated chipsets on Wintel motherboards. The 9550 should speed things up noticably.
 
Doesn't the NVidia 5200 Go in the 12" PB even though it supports Core Image rely on the CPU to do the ripple effect? I think this was on the Apple support page but I cannot find it any more. Link?
 
So it definitely 100% supports it? I know there are some people on MR that tried one today at the store, surely they know 100%.
 
what hack are you talking about acousticdoc...b/c if it can go higher I will definitiely get an ibook
 
uspcommuter said:
what hack are you talking about acousticdoc...b/c if it can go higher I will definitiely get an ibook
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ibook only supports "mirroring" since the ibook is maxed out at 1028 res the external monitor will mirror that resolution. You need to down load span doctor in order hit the higher resolutions
 
Adding to the above...
Althought you get different res. in the external monitor, you eventually share the 32Mb of RAM across the 2 monitors, hence 16Mb each.
 
macaddict.com

macaddict.com confirms that the 9550 does not support core image. It states that a 9560 is required for core image effects. Don't know if it's true or not, but maybe it helps you guys.
 
Boobs said:
macaddict.com confirms that the 9550 does not support core image. It states that a 9560 is required for core image effects. Don't know if it's true or not, but maybe it helps you guys.
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Link?

If true, that really is disappointing. Was thinking of getting the 12".

Guess I'll wait until this is confirmed.
 
Although macaddict claims it doesn't. They don't really show any support for that claim. Aparantly the guy who runs xlr8yourmac emailed ATI and they said that the 9550 DOES support coreimage. I have never heard of this mysterious 9560 that macaddict is talking about.
 
Adding to the pointless speculation, a thread at MacNN confirms that the new iBooks do 'support' Core Image (by which I mean: transformations run on the GPU).

(via daringfireball)
 
The fact that it has 32MB means nothing, as the 32MB version of the 5200 works. Since it has programable vertex/pixel shader support, it should work fine with the ripple. Plus a guy in another thread said it worked.
 
Excellent news. Thanks TaKashMoney.

Someone in another thread claimed that he could see the ripple effect on his spanking new iBook, but as long as it was just one claiming this I have to admit I was a bit skeptical...
 
Ah, good to see this confirmed...

Also remember that Apple is only including currently sold video cards on the list. Discontinued cards like the desktop version of the Radeon 9700 and all the Radeon 9800 variations are also fully compatible.
 
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