raynegus said:Time to take another Ambien pill so you can keep dreaming!
Hey we can all dream of a G6 PB too
coming to an Apple Store near you in 2008 
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Hey we can all dream of a G6 PB too
coming to an Apple Store near you in 2008 stevep said:
Of course, we do have to pay a little thing called sales tax here in the U.S. as well. So that $1,099 iBook isn't really $1,099, it's actually $1,189.67 where I live (with 8.25% sales tax included). I know the taxes are even higher in Europe, but just as with the sales taxes here, that's not Apple's fault.
Well, you can get up to a 60GB drive in an iBook now.iDave said:
Maybe Apple needs to do a minor bump to the Powerbook line - offer a 100GB drive (which wasn't really available back in April) and then the iBook line can have bigger drives.
by claiming "we're slower, and have shorter battery life"?
Ummm, what would be the claims that Apple would use to knock down Centrino?
CubaTBird said:...a small ad campaign punching a slow blow to intel's centrino mobile technology.
Ummm, what would be the claims that Apple would use to knock down Centrino?
i think the logic flows well for apple. PB's arent ready... we know this. And the laptop line has been stagnant. So the iBook is being updated since the PBs cant and the ubooks are due anyway. iBooks will sell well and PB make take a small hit (people who want PB's get PB's). More sales either way is good for apple. And if PBs arent updated by mid november we are likely to see a BIG update in the begining of '05. We cant follow the old timelines because this has been hard for them to get out. So since its only a few months later we will see a big PB update in Jan
i wish it was sooner!!! I want my PB but i must wait.
i wish it was sooner!!! I want my PB but i must wait.
you know i really think that even if the ibook had a 80 gig hard drive and a 64mb video card i dont think people would stop buying powerbooks a lot of people simply want the best of the best and a cool aluminum powerbook with some great speakers is certainly not gonna be replaced by them with an ibook no matter what..
case and gpu need to change
I think the best consumer v pro laptop model is what can you fit in US Letter v US Legal. Obviously one of them is widescreen so I'd nix it for the ibook line. The 12" isn't going to go away, but I dislike the new plastic. First, it looks like it was made for toddlers. The top plastic gets dirty in a second and it just looks cheap. I thought the same thing about the sunflower base (notice the imac g5 is glossy). Apple probably isn't going to say 'whoops we messed up', so we might see something like 'friction reducing plastic' etc... The hinge design 'looks elegant', but I think laptops should be able to fold out flat (especially consumer models). Of course I'd like the tension/torque at the higher reaches to be a lot so it took a bit of effort, but i've seen flipped and stomped ibooks w/ the current hinges and that's a shame that should never happen. BT module should be available as an add on, not just bto..somewhere Apple will get hit w/ legal for that part sooner or later. So there's basic simple hopes there. The more far reaching..put two buttons on it like the original powebooks or put three on because you know it's UNIX.
GPU: Has to be updated for the new cores
Speed: duh
Price: hopefully
AE in-built: Up in the air, there are dirt cheap PC laptops using the broadcom chipset so it's not that expensive to put in. Apple is better off w/ a bunch of loaded machines for service than even small differences in a lot of different machines.
BT in-built: They really should
Price: drops are always welcome, whatever
Back-lit keyboard w/ changeable colors to compliment the colored ipod mini's, and legacy i(mac/book/tower) lifesavers peripherals: They need this.
Surprise: I hope something
Optical drive: as mentioned by others, since software comes on dvd it would be a good idea to just have a dvd in the lowest model by default.
PB G5 of course it, or whatever Apple wants to call a 'G5' for that machine is coming out some time. That's a given or they would discontinue the 14" ibook or 12" powerbook tomorow and I doubt that's going to happen. The Powerbooks aren't there just for cosmetic differences or better GPU's etc.. Of course any product matrix discussion will get to the PB G5 and it's most apropriate w/ a possible ibook update.
And if an update makes your machine a hockey puck then I'm volunteering for Goaltender. Of course if it did make it into a piece of vulcanized rubber kept in a refrigerator...well...then the heating issue would be gone and you could drop in a G5. Just because there's a lock-out doesn't mean you can get derogatory about a sport. (it wouldn't have happened if they hadn't named the place HP Pavilion).
I think the best consumer v pro laptop model is what can you fit in US Letter v US Legal. Obviously one of them is widescreen so I'd nix it for the ibook line. The 12" isn't going to go away, but I dislike the new plastic. First, it looks like it was made for toddlers. The top plastic gets dirty in a second and it just looks cheap. I thought the same thing about the sunflower base (notice the imac g5 is glossy). Apple probably isn't going to say 'whoops we messed up', so we might see something like 'friction reducing plastic' etc... The hinge design 'looks elegant', but I think laptops should be able to fold out flat (especially consumer models). Of course I'd like the tension/torque at the higher reaches to be a lot so it took a bit of effort, but i've seen flipped and stomped ibooks w/ the current hinges and that's a shame that should never happen. BT module should be available as an add on, not just bto..somewhere Apple will get hit w/ legal for that part sooner or later. So there's basic simple hopes there. The more far reaching..put two buttons on it like the original powebooks or put three on because you know it's UNIX.
GPU: Has to be updated for the new cores
Speed: duh
Price: hopefully
AE in-built: Up in the air, there are dirt cheap PC laptops using the broadcom chipset so it's not that expensive to put in. Apple is better off w/ a bunch of loaded machines for service than even small differences in a lot of different machines.
BT in-built: They really should
Price: drops are always welcome, whatever
Back-lit keyboard w/ changeable colors to compliment the colored ipod mini's, and legacy i(mac/book/tower) lifesavers peripherals: They need this.
Surprise: I hope something
Optical drive: as mentioned by others, since software comes on dvd it would be a good idea to just have a dvd in the lowest model by default.
PB G5 of course it, or whatever Apple wants to call a 'G5' for that machine is coming out some time. That's a given or they would discontinue the 14" ibook or 12" powerbook tomorow and I doubt that's going to happen. The Powerbooks aren't there just for cosmetic differences or better GPU's etc.. Of course any product matrix discussion will get to the PB G5 and it's most apropriate w/ a possible ibook update.
And if an update makes your machine a hockey puck then I'm volunteering for Goaltender. Of course if it did make it into a piece of vulcanized rubber kept in a refrigerator...well...then the heating issue would be gone and you could drop in a G5. Just because there's a lock-out doesn't mean you can get derogatory about a sport. (it wouldn't have happened if they hadn't named the place HP Pavilion).
Chaszmyr said:
Oh yeah. It sure is foolish wanting to use the computer while you're in the family room watching tv. Or out on the patio on a nice afternoon. Or in the kitchen trying out a new recipe from the internet. Or writing an email from the comfort of bed before heading off to sleep. Or just about any place in the house besides the computer room. Yeah, totally foolish.
My predictions...
Dammit but only 32 meg vram...hopefully coreimage compatible if thats possible at this size...
60 gig hdd...maybe 80 of the pb gets a 100 gig early next year or before.
Built in GPS into the screen lid...sorry...thats my 2006 prediction for the powerbooks.
(machine configures time to local time based upon gps; maps wifi nodes and remembers where you are when you logged into a certain node - with signal strength maps etc;
provides auto weather and local news; can point you in the direction of a wifi node based upon all commercial services on an upodatable database on your machine (including costs etc);
can put your location up on iChat etc along with what tunes are playing;
auto configures your dialup for all country and area codes based upon the database of your isp; will talk to your wifi/BT enabled digital camera when your shooting and include all lat/long with your metadata;
synchs to a series of databases of commercial services you are interested in to help you identify the closet and get a map to get there - and directions; )
Ok back to the present
Built in Wifi in the 14s hopefully.
No backlit keyboard...
Dammit but only 32 meg vram...hopefully coreimage compatible if thats possible at this size...
60 gig hdd...maybe 80 of the pb gets a 100 gig early next year or before.
Built in GPS into the screen lid...sorry...thats my 2006 prediction for the powerbooks.
(machine configures time to local time based upon gps; maps wifi nodes and remembers where you are when you logged into a certain node - with signal strength maps etc;
provides auto weather and local news; can point you in the direction of a wifi node based upon all commercial services on an upodatable database on your machine (including costs etc);
can put your location up on iChat etc along with what tunes are playing;
auto configures your dialup for all country and area codes based upon the database of your isp; will talk to your wifi/BT enabled digital camera when your shooting and include all lat/long with your metadata;
synchs to a series of databases of commercial services you are interested in to help you identify the closet and get a map to get there - and directions; )
Ok back to the present
Built in Wifi in the 14s hopefully.
No backlit keyboard...
bankshot said:Oh yeah. It sure is foolish wanting to use the computer while you're in the family room watching tv. Or out on the patio on a nice afternoon. Or in the kitchen trying out a new recipe from the internet. Or writing an email from the comfort of bed before heading off to sleep. Or just about any place in the house besides the computer room. Yeah, totally foolish.
Of course it's not foolish, but.. Everyone chooses for themselves what priorities they want to have. I would personally not sacrifice a lot of money or a lot of computer power just so I wouldn't have to sit in the computer room when using my Mac. If I'd just use it at home I'd
1. get an eMac. Lots more power, bigger screen and so on..
..or if I "needed" a flat-screen, I'd
2. get an iMac G5 for just a few $$ extra. BIG performance jump!
But as I said above, it's up to each and everyone to decide for themselves how much flexibility within your own home is worth. To me it's worth a bit, but far from the performance-hit you take today when comparing to similarily priced Macs.
I will be using an iBook outside my home so I plan on getting one, but it will hurt a bit to buy an iBook and know I could get a G5 for close to the same price.
Chaszmyr said:
My one and only computer is a 17" powerbook. I think the best thing i ever did was dump that huge tower. Now I can take my computer back and forth to home/school/work and always have all my files and everything i need with me. The computer sits at home on an iCurve with an external keyboard and a mouse. I must admit its an awesome setup, foolish or not.
edit: oh and me and my roomates do have a wifi network set up here at out apartment and we use our laptops all over the house/patio.
vwcruisn said:
both of you (you and the person a few posts up) are missing their point.
IF (notice the IF) you are using your computer only at home (not to and from work) and do not have wifi (which is what started the whole argument) then it is foolish to get a laptop, both of you have wifi and move your computers around alot so he was not referencing you, just the person who thought it was stupid to have wifi built in standard into the unannounced ibook because s/he has no use for it in his/her house, then someone replied with "you can use your laptop elsewhere" and i believe s/he replied with "i don't take mine anywhere"
Ok so we all on the same page?
Chaszmyr said:
Yea, but the price isn't that big of a difference. Might as well include it. Sort of like the difference between USB 2.0 and USB 1.0 or adding Firewire or 1.0 Ghz vs 1.1 Ghz.
Especially since the Powerbook has a larger screen, an option for 128MB of video ram, and the ability to have 2GB of RAM in the system. Also, a 15" Powerbook is lighter than a 14" iBook. (A 12" Powerbook is lighter than a 12" iBook as well.)CaptainCaveMann said:
everything is higher priced in UK. It's an island.
The minimum wage is higher too.
included in your £799 price is 17.5% VAT too, bringing the base price down to £680.00. (£69 more than USA)
It's about a 10% surcharge in the UK... not uncommon for most thing are much more expensive in the UK...
The minimum wage is higher too.
included in your £799 price is 17.5% VAT too, bringing the base price down to £680.00. (£69 more than USA)
It's about a 10% surcharge in the UK... not uncommon for most thing are much more expensive in the UK...
we have received confirmation on new iBooks to be released tomorrow - details posted to the frontpage.
iBook 12" 1.2 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
30 GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive
iBook 14" 1.33 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
60 GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive
iBook 14" 1.33 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
60 GB Hard Drive
SuperDrive
iBook 12" 1.2 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
30 GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive
iBook 14" 1.33 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
60 GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive
iBook 14" 1.33 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
60 GB Hard Drive
SuperDrive
Powerbook update?
I'm looking to switch to Apple. Is there any chance that the Powerbook will be refreshed tomorrow also, or would we already know that information?
I'm looking to switch to Apple. Is there any chance that the Powerbook will be refreshed tomorrow also, or would we already know that information?
These configurations are perfectly logical, ever since the iBooks started coming with the G4 they've been one step behind the PowerBook G4 line. This ought to make the PowerBook people extremely happy since this obviously means that some PowerBook updates are also on the way, maybe MacWorld 2005.
I'm surprised ... there is only the entry level 12" now.. and TWO 14", if the rumour is true.
Personally I much prefer the 12" iBook - the present 14" books still only go up to 1024x768.. and this may not change either. That sort of resolution is too small for a 14" screen imo.
Apple had better put graphic cards that will support Core Graphics, otherwise what is the point if you are thinking about Tiger - its only 6 or so
months away. If I'm going buy a new machine I want it to fully support the next OS fully - and that is not unreasonable.
Personally I much prefer the 12" iBook - the present 14" books still only go up to 1024x768.. and this may not change either. That sort of resolution is too small for a 14" screen imo.
Apple had better put graphic cards that will support Core Graphics, otherwise what is the point if you are thinking about Tiger - its only 6 or so
months away. If I'm going buy a new machine I want it to fully support the next OS fully - and that is not unreasonable.