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iBook Updates... Details?

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ThomasHobbes said:
I'm happy because this means the PB will be updated and I can get a previous gen PB on eBay for another 100 or 200 off.
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With all the scams these days on eBay, I wouldn't necessarily count on being able to get stuff on there at any reasonable price. Good luck and be careful.
 
Am I the only one disappointed by the HD capacities of the current Macs (not just iBooks?). HDs are dirt cheap and I think some Macs could use a little HD boost.
 
yoda13 said:
You could do a BTO and get a bigger drive.
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True, but the maximum option for the 12" is 60GB. Maybe that will change with the new revision.
 
I think the 12" should stay at 10 x 7, the mid level 14" should stay at 10 x 7, and the top end 14" should go to the next level 14" screen, be that 12 x 9, 12 x 10, or 14 x 10.5. My dad is getting older and considering a new laptop- I'd like to try to sell him on an iBook, but he wouldn't be too happy with a 12" or a high-res 14". IBM still sells T41s with 14" XGA screens, Apple should have one model with that option.
 
Mudbug said:
we have received confirmation on new iBooks to be released tomorrow - details posted to the frontpage.

iBook 14" 1.33 Ghz G4
512K L2 Cache
256 MB Ram
60 GB Hard Drive
SuperDrive
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I hope this means a decent price drop because the high end machine gets only a 0.13 GHz bump if this information is right...

Macrumors front page indicates its still going to be $1499...

[Edit] Oops, I see it has a superdrive as Standard :eek:
 
applekid said:
Am I the only one disappointed by the HD capacities of the current Macs (not just iBooks?). HDs are dirt cheap and I think some Macs could use a little HD boost.
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500 GB is too small for you? Even the iMac at 250 GB is too small for you? Have you ever heard of external firewire drives? Unless you're a professional who needs gobs of space for audio, video, etc., why do you need that much space? I think that in many cases large hard drives just contribute to people becoming too lazy in cleaning their machines, and storing useless crap just because they can. Do people really need 200 GB of MP3s on their system or 200 GB of downloaded movies or TV shows?

Ah, whatever, I'm just being a bastard... :cool:
 
aswitcher said:
I hope this means a decent price drop because the high end machine gets only a 0.13 GHz bump if this information is right...

Macrumors front page indicates its still going to be $1499...

[Edit] Oops, I see it has a superdrive as Standard :eek:
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Yah, that SuperDrive might be quite an attractive selling feature for many people. I think Apple is wise in only including it in the top-end iBook though, putting it in across the line would be a bit much. Mind you, we don't know, maybe Apple will make the SuperDrive an option on the other models, (maybe even just a 4x since it's cheaper), with it being standard on the high end - guess we'll see!
 
I don't know whether its been noticed but the emacs have also the same shipping time as the iMacs ( on Canada store )... perhaps the rumours regarding refreshed eMacs are also true...
 
~Shard~ said:
500 GB is too small for you? Even the iMac at 250 GB is too small for you?
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[off-topic]Both 17" iMac models come with 80GB drives. In these days of having lots of digital music, digital photos, and editing digital movies and music, that's not enough. Yes, one can get external Firewire drives, but why doesn't Apple provide a decent 160GB with all desktops and 80GB with all laptops to start with? Apple is all about the digital hub, after all. Macs are sold at premium prices and should have a sufficient amount of RAM and hard disk space, right off the shelf. Apple just seems cheap, in this respect.[/off-topic]
 
iDave said:
[off-topic]Both 17" iMac models come with 80GB drives. In these days of having lots of digital music, digital photos, and editing digital movies and music, that's not enough. Yes, one can get external Firewire drives, but why doesn't Apple provide a decent 160GB with all desktops and 80GB with all laptops to start with? Apple is all about the digital hub, after all. Macs are sold at premium prices and should have a sufficient amount of RAM and hard disk space, right off the shelf. Apple just seems cheap, in this respect.[/off-topic]
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100GB harddrives, the highest capacity available for laptops, are still quite expensive. I agree that Apple should offer them, but I'm sure they will soon. Even offering an 80 as standard would be too expensive. 60 GB is currently the sweet spot in price/capacity.
 
iDave said:
[off-topic]Both 17" iMac models come with 80GB drives. In these days of having lots of digital music, digital photos, and editing digital movies and music, that's not enough. Yes, one can get external Firewire drives, but why doesn't Apple provide a decent 160GB with all desktops and 80GB with all laptops to start with? Apple is all about the digital hub, after all. Macs are sold at premium prices and should have a sufficient amount of RAM and hard disk space, right off the shelf. Apple just seems cheap, in this respect.[/off-topic]
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But this then gets into the whole debate again about giving some people more than what they need. Why make a 160 GB HD standard, or more than 256 MB RAM, when for some people, that's all they need? Why should people have to pay extra for standard things they don't need just so you can get what you want? The new iMacs can go up to 250 GB HD, so if you need the extra space, pay extra.

I realize more and more HD space is required due to photos, movies, music, etc., but I still think 160 GB is ample space on average - even 80 GB for many users - I'm sure many here would agree with me. And for anyone who doesn't, there are other options available to you.

It's a similar situation with the iPod. Apple was smart and realized not everyone needs 10, 20 or 40 GB for their music, so they introduced the mini, which was a resounding success. More space isn't always what everyone needs.
 
~Shard~ said:
But this then gets into the whole debate again about giving some people more than what they need. Why make a 160 GB HD standard, or more than 256 MB RAM, when for some people, that's all they need? Why should people have to pay extra for standard things they don't need just so you can get what you want? The new iMacs can go up to 250 GB HD, so if you need the extra space, pay extra.
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I guess I agree with you. I have no use for Bluetooth, or the wicked fast GPUs everyone seems to crave. I would like to see more RAM and disk space standard. To each his/her own, I guess. Apple has to make compromises.
 
Stella said:
I don't know whether its been noticed but the emacs have also the same shipping time as the iMacs ( on Canada store )... perhaps the rumours regarding refreshed eMacs are also true...
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the eMac rumors :D

Throw in PowerBooks, which ought to get an update around the same time as iBooks, and maybe the only Mac that's NOT up for an update this week is the iMac ;)
 
is it time Apple goes to Dell model....

pick the speed you want pay the price you want! It is stupid to play this game where you can't upgrade one model because the spec's get to close to another. It's clear right now the iBook is way better value to your wallet and the Powerbook is a better looking to your eyes! In this economy the first will win.
 
Some_Big_Spoon said:
Yep, if these specs are right, the powerbooks are silver, and that's darn near the only difference. Dumb.
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I think this is paving the way for a PowerBook update, and I think it will be a lot more than just a speed bump. Personally I'm putting my money on the Dual Core, unless Apple blows us all away with the G5 and all the "no G5 in a laptop" talk is just to throw us off, but I seriously doubt that.

Both iBook and PowerBook are up for revisions, the iBook is more readily available than the PowerBooks so the iBook get's the revision and Apple takes it in the pocketbook for a few months.

I say new PowerBooks at MWSF. Or at least I sure hope so.
 
Some_Big_Spoon said:
Yep, if these specs are right, the powerbooks are silver, and that's darn near the only difference. Dumb.
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Oh, com'on. PowerBooks have DVI out, monitor spanning, faster memory, bigger hard drives, audio-in, better keyboards, included Airport. What have I forgotten? That doesn't mean the 12" PowerBook is worth $500 more than the 12" iBook, however.
 
iDave said:
I guess I agree with you. I have no use for Bluetooth, or the wicked fast GPUs everyone seems to crave. I would like to see more RAM and disk space standard. To each his/her own, I guess. Apple has to make compromises.
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Yah, you can never please everyone. I do see what you're saying though with the ever-growing need for HD space, with digital photos and iMovies and all that becoming more commonplace - I still think though that 80 GB is good enough for a basic, general user, while 160 GB is more than enough for most people. But since component costs are coming down, it definitely will be more likely for Apple to up the standard HD and RAM sooner rather than later - possibly in the New Year when they get around to releasing new revisions of everything? (Not sure when the next iMac update will be though, probably not until spring...)
 
Well personally all the ibook upgrades are nice, but I am more than ready for powerbook changes. I am trying to CONVERT here Apple!! GAH! Well as for those I am hoping for a nice dual-core G4 as the G5s are much down the road. A nice 9800 pro or ram upgrade would be nice also. No one has even mentioned DDR400 in the powerbooks which i think would be a nice addition, as well as the option for a 7200rpm hard drive 80gb or more. But as soon as the pbooks are upgraded im buying. Maintaining battery life with the mentioned upgrades is what scares me, hopefully they will pull it off!
 
if the 12" powerbook got the backlit keyboard, id ditch this dell piece of crap and make the switch to apple. such a cool feature, i cant understand why they dont put that on every laptop they sell. i dont want a 15" - too big. guess ill wait and see.
 
Average User

~Shard~ said:
But this then gets into the whole debate again about giving some people more than what they need. Why make a 160 GB HD standard, or more than 256 MB RAM, when for some people, that's all they need? Why should people have to pay extra for standard things they don't need just so you can get what you want? The new iMacs can go up to 250 GB HD, so if you need the extra space, pay extra.

I realize more and more HD space is required due to photos, movies, music, etc., but I still think 160 GB is ample space on average - even 80 GB for many users - I'm sure many here would agree with me. And for anyone who doesn't, there are other options available to you.

It's a similar situation with the iPod. Apple was smart and realized not everyone needs 10, 20 or 40 GB for their music, so they introduced the mini, which was a resounding success. More space isn't always what everyone needs.
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I think every one keeps forgetting what the iMac and iBook are marketed for. Those that need the higher RAM/Hard drives are not your adverage user that those are targeted for. The machines that those are targeted for are 'just right' for them. If you need more space, then you are not the 'average' user.

-Hugh
 
iBook updates?

Well I am wondering if these updated iBook rumors are true. Last week I ordered an iBook and it says it will not ship until after the 25 Oct. I am wondering if it's going to take so long to ship because of the udated iBooks.

I hope so, and I get the new price too!! :D


-Hugh
 
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