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corywoolf said:
I think the led lighting technology that apple patented is going to play a roll and everyone forgot about it by now. so maybe they will make the ipods more flashy and the ibooks more flashy too.
The ipod will most likely have a commercial premiere with U2 or some other band. The ipod will probably just have a color screen with the option to browse by artwork. the ipod and ibook will be getting commercials to try to boost holiday sales.

but check out the pic i made, my first mach add, i know its pathetic compared to the experienced people's ;)

I like how you conveniently directed your post into "off-topic land" and commented on the new iPod just so you could show off the graphic you did up which you've already posted in other threads. :p ;)

corywoolf said:
they want to target the youth by making the ibook as cool to own as the ipod. maybe they could bundle a ipod mini with a ibook?????

Not a bad idea at all, but probably not going to happen...


And lastly, how exactly does one "play a roll"? :confused: :p :cool:
 
Well, for completely selfish reasons I hope there's not an update, or a very minimal one if there is. I bought an iBook with the Cram and Jam two months ago so if there is an update and, more importantly, a price drop I'm going to be upset at myself. ;)

I never thought Apple would bump the iBooks before they either bumped or re-vamped the Powerbook, but the sudden change from "same business day" shipping to "3-5 business day" shipping has me convinced that something is up.

Oh well, I guess if there's a significant update then maybe I'll hit ebay with my current iBook. :D
 
evilgEEk said:
Oh well, I guess if there's a significant update then maybe I'll hit ebay with my current iBook. :D

That's what eBay is for, after all! I can just imagine how many people have sold their iPods (multiple times!) on eBay with all the frequent updates to them - and possibly another one coming up if the 60 GB iPod rumor is true!
 
evilgEEk said:
Well, for completely selfish reasons I hope there's not an update, or a very minimal one if there is...

I, too, hope that this isn't true for selfish reasons. I am trying to sell my Powerbook 1.25, and this could lower my resale value by a bit. I have been infected with the desire to own a G5, and the Powerbook is my financial leverage.

But, alas, I must concede that progress can only be a good thing. And with Apple showing significant gains as of late, this can only bring more positive change for them. A slight hit for me or a bigger net gain for Apple... I guess I could take one for the team. Bring 'em on, Apple, and make 'em good ( but not too good... :rolleyes: )
 
~Shard~ said:
I like how you conveniently directed your post into "off-topic land" and commented on the new iPod just so you could show off the graphic you did up which you've already posted in other threads. :p ;)



Not a bad idea at all, but probably not going to happen...


And lastly, how exactly does one "play a roll"? :confused: :p :cool:

bullseye, lol, i admit it, sorry, at least i talked about the ibook a little though lol. there hasn't been enough rumors lately, so i was just trying to get a conversation going.

;)
 
~Shard~ said:
I like how you conveniently directed your post into "off-topic land" and commented on the new iPod just so you could show off the graphic you did up which you've already posted in other threads. :p ;)



Not a bad idea at all, but probably not going to happen...


And lastly, how exactly does one "play a roll"? :confused: :p :cool:


i meant that led lighting on the ibook is coming soon, i think at least. it'd be a great gimmick to get the youth market excited about the ibooks. well, i think we are at least going to see a new case.

:)
 
yoda13 said:
I don't think the new chips are ready from Freescale yet, either dualcore or the ones that are pin compatible with the current motherboards, at least according to freescale.

It's possible (although unlikely) that Freescale simply isn't announcing new chips because they're all going to Apple. If only Apple can get the chips, there's no point in advertising them. It's unlikely, but it's happened before (1.25 and 1.42 G4s when Motorola's site only listed 1 GHz).

cr2sh said:
jibbs - I don't like the new tar, just being honest

On the other hand, I think it's very good.
 
Nermal said:
On the other hand, I think it's very good.

He already changed the tar. The new one is pretty cool.

I think this update is going to happen. I went looking for an ibook this week and I went to my apple dealer. The guy already knows me, as I bought my G5 there this summer and I called him up about getting a laptop.

He is a very friendly chap and when he told me he did not have any ibooks in he said with a smirk on his face that he was not shure about when he would get the next shipment. Now if the ibooks were comming in a normal cyclus he could have given me a precise date but if he was waiting for some news from apple he could not be shure when exactly that would be…

But as the compulsive buyer I am I decided not to pay attention to his good advice to wait for the next shipmement (of new ibooks!) and looked around in other stores an bought myself a 12 incher.
It is so hard for me to take the deciscion to buy something that once I made up my mind I need to go out and buy it immediately. If that does not happen I fall back to analysing my situation and asking myself if I really need the product.

Mmmh, ebay it or ebay it not.
If this update makes a difference it will be hard to resist.
 
iProbot said:
There we go!!! :)

I don't think that they will change the form factor. Designing a new computer from the ground up is really expensive. If the want to drop prices they have to keep the old look.
The white look is a huge seller, ipod, ibook and now imac, why change that?
 
belair said:
The white look is a huge seller, ipod, ibook and now imac, why change that?

Ok, but the first generation iMac was a huge seller too, and look at where we are today ;)
 
you can't bump the speed of the ibook too close to the powerbook, otherwise the powerbook is just an overpriced, outdated computer.

Sounds a lot like

you can't bump the speed of the emac too close to the imac, otherwise the imac is just an overpriced, outdated computer.

Need I say more? If we follow the parallels, we can take a stab at when a g5 can be cramed into a PB, although it will probably be a bit later still, given how loudly apple has said "no g5 pb soon".
 
Spades said:
Why wouldn't you want to take out the drive? If you don't use it often, it's dead weight. An external drive wouldn't be a big bother, other than being slightly more expensive.

I travel with my 12" Powerbook and I cant imagine myself as PB in my one hand, external drive in the other hand, trying to be comfortable in the bus to Istanbul and trying to enjoy the last episode of "everybody loves raymond" dvd which I burned few hours ago on my PC.. :) Does this even sound fine?.. nooo... :D

Plus.. remember the times that all portables are new, and there was a common form that all extra stuff were external, like drives, floppy and even battery.. This would be a backward step to those old days..
 
You only live once, until you're reincarnated

If this is true, Steve must be reading my posts (right).

While I waited all summer for the iMac G5 w/AE (it's awesome) I imagined also buying a low-end, light weight notebook, so I could surf from the porch, bedroom, easy chair. Having a small network at home, too cool. I'd do the heavy work on the G5, so the notebook could be basic and I'd be happy.

The post that imagined trimming weight by removing the CD was an intriguing idea. I wonder what else could be done?
 
gatorron said:
The post that imagined trimming weight by removing the CD was an intriguing idea. I wonder what else could be done?

Well.. Even if Apple takes out the optical drive and releases that product, it wouldnt be named iBook.. That would be.. iBook Mini[/B] :D
 
gatorron said:
The post that imagined trimming weight by removing the CD was an intriguing idea. I wonder what else could be done?

Well.. Even if Apple takes out the optical drive and releases that product, it wouldnt be named iBook.. That would be.. iBook Mini :D
 
Good News.

I can't say I'm much of an expert on the iBook/PowerBook field, (my expertise being in the iPod...:p) but my plans were to either get an iBook or a new iPod (but recent rumors on the new color iPod has halted that, if they bring a color iPod for a 40GB, then.....I cannot buy one now can I?)...financial funds are not enough for both...alas.

If the iBook gets the price drop, with a possible upgrade in its Video RAM + a basic improvement overall.......the story does change slightly. Only problem being the Tiger. What about the Tiger then?
 
gatorron said:
If this is true, Steve must be reading my posts (right).

While I waited all summer for the iMac G5 w/AE (it's awesome) I imagined also buying a low-end, light weight notebook, so I could surf from the porch, bedroom, easy chair. Having a small network at home, too cool. I'd do the heavy work on the G5, so the notebook could be basic and I'd be happy.

The post that imagined trimming weight by removing the CD was an intriguing idea. I wonder what else could be done?

maybe have a 40GB ipod HD.
 
~Shard~ said:
I still think a dual core G4 PowerBook is more likely as the next major upgrade than a G5 PowerBook is. Granted, Apple has done an amazing thing in fitting the hot G5 chip into the new iMacs, however still, a 2" enclosure is significantly different than a 1" enclosure. G5 PowerBooks will come out, but I don't know if we'll see them for another year.

I certinly agree. Unfortunately we won't see anything of the Dual core G4 until Q2 2004 - there was a story about forthcoming G4 chips a few weeks ago.

A dual core G4 chip in a PB would be very good and a very attractive buy.
 
toughboy said:
I could not agree more.. optical driveless notebook is not something I even "think" to buy.. I can agree about making it thinner, but this should not be done with taking out the drive...

.5 cm may be still taken off but not before the PB's ... nevermind, I'm not apple engineer.
 
Here's a question. I've been a mac user for 3 years, and wouldn't know the answer. Has Apple ever made a notebook that had an optional external optical drive ? If not, Apple would probably not go down that route.

I was at a local big electronics retailer last weekend, and I didn't see too any PC notebooks without the optical drive. I believe Sony tried in the past, (as well as others) but they don't seem to advertise those models as much as their regular PC notebooks. I don't think many people like being without their optical drive. Some people actually use it to listen to audio cd's ! :D
 
corywoolf said:
but check out the pic i made, my first mach add, i know its pathetic compared to the experienced people's ;)

i'm sorry, but I really hope the iPod interface isn't changing to that one.
 
toughboy said:
I travel with my 12" Powerbook and I cant imagine myself as PB in my one hand, external drive in the other hand, trying to be comfortable in the bus to Istanbul and trying to enjoy the last episode of "everybody loves raymond" dvd which I burned few hours ago on my PC.. :) Does this even sound fine?.. nooo... :D

Plus.. remember the times that all portables are new, and there was a common form that all extra stuff were external, like drives, floppy and even battery.. This would be a backward step to those old days..

You would use the external drive at home to rip "Everybody Loves Raymond" to your computer to watch while you travel. This kind of laptop is aimed at people who don't use optical drives much and when they do could rip the material onto the HD.
 
Oh dear. Well, it could happen, and then I'd be so completely jealous. I prefer the 12" iBook form factor anyway. It's happened before, remember when the eMac was so close to the iMac in specs and worlds apart in price?

This must mean the PowerBooks will be getting substantially boosted at some point soon, which is good - I just hope it's well publicised, I want good ebay resale on this one!
 
"paperweight" complaint is nonsense

MikeTheC said:
What, and have a repeat of that Sony micro-notebook where you had to buy an external optical drive to install or do recoveries? And then, when they run out of these mechanisms, then you've got a paperweight because you can't add or clean the system.

This is a specious argument - the laptop can boot from any USB or 1394 optical drive, or from the network.
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What would be wrong with Apple having four product lines in their laptop offering:


  1. SmallBook - 2 to 3 lbs, 3/4" thick, 10" to 12" XGA, no optical builtin, optical in optional docking station (see the Dell X300 for example - note that "MediaBase" containing the optical attaches to the bottom of the laptop - making it a thicker and heavier laptop with effectively a "builtin CD" (and with a convenient extra battery in the base to spin the CD!))
  2. iBook
  3. PowerBook
  4. BigBook - 10 lbs or more, G5, dual HD + optical - for people who want power over portability (the Wintel folks are selling tons of these with full power desktop hyperthreading Pentium 4s)


Wouldn't choice be good?
 
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