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I think Xtremehkr means the votes on the story on the main macrumors page. There were 115 positives and 32 negatives at the time of this writing.

The only reason my simple mind can come up with to vote this negative would be if you just bought one, but then, that's progress, and iBooks always get updated this time of the year, and we have the buying guide, so I have no pity! (Do your research BEFORE buying!!) Plus, I always buy new leftovers, so I'm personally hoping it's true.
 
iDave said:
What do you perceive as negative? All I've seen is a discussion of what may or may not be new features and prices; and questions about what to do if you just got an iBook within the past week.

He is perceiving the negative votes this story received as negative - pretty simple and straight forward really! :p

The only thing I can think of why some people would vote this story negative is if they are simply bitter that they just bought a new iBook, and have now found out that an update might be coming soon. Otherwise, maybe some people just like voting negative to make other people ask that very question... ;)
 
belair said:
Same here.
I bought my ibook last thuesday, I have the receit the box and everything. Bought it at a reseller, there are no apple stores in Luxembourg.
If they update this thuesday would you think I could return mine and get a new one instead?

Does anyone around here know if this law about the 10 day margin is accurate for the rest of Europe and more specifically in the Benelux countries???

Any information would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance

No. In the EU you have 30 days to return a product you bought via Internet, Phone or fax etc.

If you bought it in a store, you can only return it if it is defective.

So bad luck...
 
Yup

MacPhreak said:
I think Xtremehkr means the votes on the story on the main macrumors page. There were 115 positives and 32 negatives at the time of this writing.

The only reason my simple mind can come up with to vote this negative would be if you just bought one, but then, that's progress, and iBooks always get updated this time of the year, and we have the buying guide, so I have no pity! (Do your research BEFORE buying!!) Plus, I always buy new leftovers, so I'm personally hoping it's true.

Good point, that happened to me when I bought my first iMac, it was right before the Sunflower version came out. But what can you do, at least the computer was what I wanted, I can hardly expect a company is going shhopt themselves in the foot like that.... BUT... they could discount the outgoing models...
 
They do discount the old models. The 3g iPods dropped $50 everywhere the day the 4g's were announced. I remember b/c I had just gotten my refurb 3g 10gb from Apple a couple of days before, and I was a little ticked. That update came out of the blue. I'm glad we have a little more heads up on other updates.

After Apple announces/releases a new model, the pricing restrictions disappear on the previous models, and some places take quite a bit of the previous models (like Smalldog & MacConnection; got my Pismo & iBook from these two as leftovers for substantial discounts).
 
philipp_ger said:
If you bought it in a store, you can only return it if it is defective.
So bad luck...

Thanks philipp_ger for the quick and precise response. Sounds pretty straight forward. So I guess tis bad luck for me.

Then again I could always make it broke… ;)
 
a random thought

One theory for explaning why we're seeing iBook rumors but not PowerBook rumors is that the iBook update is only a minor speed bump and hence not-so-necessary to keep secret while the PB will get a major revamp--in the form of a brand-spanking new architecture.

I wouldn't expect any major enclosure/design changes with the iBooks and PowerBooks. The iBook is their best-selling product and the styling is already iPod-esque. The screen resoultion could go higher but Apple seems pretty firm about their 100-ppi rule (the 12" ibook is already pushing that rule with its 106 ppi resolution).
 
I think they may be updating on tuesday. When I order a ibook 12.1/1GHZ/256/30/COMBO on wed. they were shipping same business day; it still hasn't shipped, I even talked to someone at the apple store on friday and they said it'd be shipping no later than yesterday and it still nothing. Seems like something is going on.. Now it's just wait and see, isn't it.
 
Yeah Jenne, I ordered a Powerbook and had the same reaction and so did a couple other people earlier in the thread. I just checked my order status and it says it will ship on or before 10/19, which is Tuesday. The AppleCare shipped on Wednesday the 13th when I made the order.
 
TopCatz said:
John Lewis online are out of stock of all iBooks and PowerBooks except 17" Superdrive - are we due for an update to the lot of them?

If John Lewis out of stock meant update, PowerBooks would be on Rev Z by now :p
 
Sol said:
From what I understand, OS X would work better with two identical RAM sticks. iBook Mini should have 512 MB built in and one empty slot.
You're thinking of G5s. Dual channel memory. G4s don't work like that. You will not see 512 on-board in this update. Not with the iMac and dual 1.8 having 256MB standard, especially. Should, but won't.

Skiniftz said:
I seem to recall someone saying something about Apple allowing users to upgrade to the newer model so long as they purchased their Mac within a certain time frame - anyone know what this is?
belair said:
Same here.
If a product is updated within 10 days, they'll refund you the difference for what the old one goes for. There might be a way to upgrade to the new model by trading in your old one, without the 10% restocking fee... but I'm not sure how that works.
 
Poff said:
On tuesday it will be announced: The all new iBook mini!

...sorry.. just couldn't help myself! :)


nicely done. it would be a cool tool for photoshop users and thats about it. unless your talking corporations buying it for their own special uses, the average consumer wouldn't seem to have a use for it. i could see a swivel ibook tablet, but that'd a bit pricey. i think we will have a new case but the same insides. i got it!!!!! it will include the ability to buy seperate aluminum plates that snap onto the ibook! that'd be a bit gimmicky though, but it worked for the ipod mini!?
 
philipp_ger said:
No. In the EU you have 30 days to return a product you bought via Internet, Phone or fax etc.

If you bought it in a store, you can only return it if it is defective.

So bad luck...

Wow, that sucks. I bought a 3G 10gb iPod here i the US at a Best Buy in January, and they updated them to the 15gb like 2 days after I bought it. So I returned to the retail shop w/out paying a restocking fee, and bought the 3g 15gb online. Is it taht way for all products in the EU, or just electronics? Here in the states, you can return anythign unopened as long as it is in the time ste by teh store, and most anything opened except vidoes, DVD's, video/computer games, cd's, and maybe a few things at a stores dicretion. Soime places will even take stuff back w./out the receipt. I hope for you that you can get the enw one somehow :)
 
Voting Negative: I would think the way this feature of Macrumors should work is that you would vote negative if you DIDNT think the rumor was true and ibooks would be announced Tuesday

ibook mini: Personally I would love one... I agree the CD is already obsolete in this day of wireless and gigabyte ethernet and large capacity smartcards and PC cards and such. of course you can always have a external DVD burner thru firewire.
If I had one I would run Absynth and other softsynths and run Logic 7 mainly for midi features rather than multitracking. It should have digital I/O like the imac. Obviously it would be an attractive alternative to the ipod as a portable music player... one thing you miss in ipod is the full screen visuals. The bigger case would enable you to use much higher capacity hard drives.
 
If they put a GeForce FX 5200 in the iBook this late in the game, I'm going to f*ing scream.
 
analogkid said:
I agree the CD is already obsolete in this day of wireless and gigabyte ethernet and large capacity smartcards and PC cards and such.

But then, gigaBYTE ethernet is pretty much confined to the backbone and very high end servers....

It'll nice when laptops need gigaBYTE ethernet! ;)
 
diehlr said:
If they put a GeForce FX 5200 in the iBook this late in the game, I'm going to f*ing scream.

Probably will, or something less powerful, since the better-speced iMac has it. The 12" Powerbooks have a Go5200, too. They may match the 12" PB specs, but I doubt they'll over-spec it.

Aren't the iBooks more-or-less the last revision of the 12" Powerbook anyway? Probably wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that there was some lineage between the 12" PB & iBook.
 
analogkid said:
ibook mini: Personally I would love one... I agree the CD is already obsolete in this day of wireless and gigabyte ethernet and large capacity smartcards and PC cards and such. of course you can always have a external DVD burner thru firewire.
Most software still comes on CDs and users need the ability to reinstall their OS should the need arise. A major percentage of computer users do not have external drives. It'll be many years until we see many computers shipped without optical drives. That's not to say there can't be specialized mini computers that don't have them, but they wouldn't sell well and Apple can't afford a model that won't sell well.

As for the voting thing, thanks for the explanations. I've never voted positive or negative. Had hardly even noticed that you could.
 
many computers ship without optical today...

iDave said:
It'll be many years until we see many computers shipped without optical drives. That's not to say there can't be specialized mini computers that don't have them, but they wouldn't sell well and Apple can't afford a model that won't sell well.

Please check the entire range of sub 4 pound laptops in Intel-land. The default laptop in my company (8000 employees) is a Dell Latitude D400 - 12" screen, 3.7 lbs, 1" thin. DVD-RW drive is an external unit.

Dell D400, Dell X300, Thinkpad X40, Compaq NC40x0, VAIO X505 (1.9 lbs!), Toshiba Portege (0.7" thin) - none have internal optical. (These are all 12" screen models, not micro-notebooks.)

Hmm, Apple sales down 32% in Japan from previous quarter. Japan leading in innovative ultra-portables. Coincidence?
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Can Apple afford to leave money on the table because they insist on a two-product laptop line that ignores the entire small/lightweight segment?
 
AidenShaw said:
Please check the entire range of sub 4 pound laptops in Intel-land. The default laptop in my company (8000 employees) is a Dell Latitude D400 - 12" screen, 3.7 lbs, 1" thin. CD drive is an external unit.

Dell D400, Dell X300, Thinkpad X40, Compaq NC40x0, VAIO X505 (1.9 lbs!), Toshiba Portege (0.7" thin). (These are all 12" screen models, not sub-notebooks.)
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Can Apple afford to leave money on the table because they insist on a two-product laptop line that ignores the entire small/lightweight segment?
Um, I suppose if the laptop comes with an external drive, the problem is solved. Please excuse my ignorance.

Apple leaves all kinds of money on the table in my opinion. They still don't have an affordable headless desktop, but that's for another thread.
 
my ibook just died, but it turns out i can participate in the logic board reaplacement program. im going to give that a try. i would love another ibook mostly because i really want a powermac. i dont need a pro portable. if the rumor is true, great. if not, it will feel like i have a new ibook, anyway.
 
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