Exactly. You might be legally allowed to jailbreak your device (as the LOC DMCA ruling seems to imply), but if you also want to run Apple's apps or App store apps, you may have to lock it back up so that it can't run apps whose modification would be a different violation of the DMCA (not under LOC protection).
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iBooks 1.2.1 Detects Some Jailbreaks, Disables iBookstore Purchases in Response
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Exactly. You might be legally allowed to jailbreak your device (as the LOC DMCA ruling seems to imply), but if you also want to run Apple's apps or App store apps, you may have to lock it back up so that it can't run apps whose modification would be a different violation of the DMCA (not under LOC protection).
Wow. I can't believe people are okay with literally losing access to stuff they paid for just because the company who sold it to them has decided to take it away.
It would be absurd if you bought a book in a store and then five years later the bookshop said that they changed their policy and took the book back from you. Why are people putting up with this ridiculous content control over LEGALLY bought things.
Of course this is what it is, anything more is just BS. I wouldn't be surprised if you see the next version of the Kindle app do the same thing; but then you'll have the people saying that Apple made them do it.
Most of the time, the simplest explanation is the right one.
I haven't run jailbroken since the 2G. ...but in the event that down the road I do want to, I don't want my engineering reference library disappearing because Apple's intentionally sabotaging it.
Solution: Don't buy apples ibooks, & find another reader app.
Solution: Don't buy apples ibooks, & find another reader app.
What makes you think that the Kindle app won't eventually do the same? Amazon's certainly wants to protect their DRM and copyrighted content as well.
It's not the iPhone itself that you don't own, it's the DRM'd content that you don't own. Like it or not, you do NOT own any of the movies or eBooks you purchase from iTunes, or for that matter any of the Blu-Ray or DVD movies you have. You own a plastic platter and the right to play back the movie contained on it, under a certain set of specific circumstances. You're allowed to view it privately at home and you may be allowed to make a copy for personal use, and that's it. You're not allowed to exhibit it publicly, or give away copies to your friends. If you're caught doing this, the RIAA threatens you with fines or jail time. I'm sure this isn't news to you.
Somewhere at some point Apple probably got in some hot water from a publishing company that said "Hey! How can you guarantee that the DRM scheme is working on all those jailbroken phones?" and Apple was forced to put this check in so that they remain DRM compliant.
I am alright with DRM. I am even alright with Apple trying to stop Jailbreaking.
This is silly. Work to make jailbreaking more difficult, Make it difficult to BUY if jailbroken, but if i BOUGHT the item, don't stand in the way of using it. You effectively sell me a good you knew i couldn't use.
This is silly. Work to make jailbreaking more difficult, Make it difficult to BUY if jailbroken, but if i BOUGHT the item, don't stand in the way of using it. You effectively sell me a good you knew i couldn't use.
seems obvious apple is testing a method for detecting jailbreaking and reducing functionality of jailbroken devices. as with any DRM they have to be sure that the non-jailbroken user never sees this error message. Wouldn't be surprised if its collected in the anonymous usage logs when we sync back to the computer.
Wait for this same type of checks to roll out to Maps, Photos, all other included Apps. You can see they could really make the jailbreakers life much harder if they not only had to find the exploit but then do this level of quality control before release.
Then imagine when they do the same to the SDK for normal apps. jailbreakers would spend all their time troubleshooting why this app error and that app error and finally give up.
Wait for this same type of checks to roll out to Maps, Photos, all other included Apps. You can see they could really make the jailbreakers life much harder if they not only had to find the exploit but then do this level of quality control before release.
Then imagine when they do the same to the SDK for normal apps. jailbreakers would spend all their time troubleshooting why this app error and that app error and finally give up.
very true. I have a pretty good idea how the lines are coded as well.
It calls a few proceedures to run those unsigned code. If the cod throws an error then it is good. If not then it is bad.
My guess is it try catch. It is 100% pure BS.
Again, prior warning is all I'm asking for. iBooks, Kindle, and any other app that feels the need to protect their content should flash an error message on jailbroken devices immediately upon opening the app. Amazon would be just as wrong if in their next update (which presumably is going to offer in-app purchasing) they allow you to buy from their book store and then prevent you from opening the book after the transaction is complete.
Go to a Theme Park, any theme park. Pay to get in. Now cut lines because you want to, be disorderly, yell at the operators. Guess what, you'll get ejected from the park without refund.
Go Skiing, pay for your lift ticket. Try cutting the lines for the lift. Bye Bye. One ski resort I went to specifically stated that if you have a run away ski or board you're automatically ejected (they should always be tethered or have breaks).
There are rules to play anywhere, you break the rules, you can be denied access to the rights to use it. Read the licensing agreement you signed; I bet it is in there somewhere.
You don't lose access to the books. All you have to do is reinstall the officially supported stock copy of the OS, like the app tells you to do. Then you have exactly the access for which you paid (read the fine print!).
Why not just delete iBooks and use Cydia to download iBooks previous version. Sure Apple probably thought of that but yeah....
Not quite, because you're not buying your device with a jailbreak on it already. I understand that you may have purchased your books while being jail broken, but you already knew that Apple didn't want you to do that. You make a good point though.
But theoretically the bar management didn't know the customer was acting unruly. Just like iBooks didn't previously know that devices were jail broken. Now it does. And you're kicked out without finishing your theoretical drink.
It's not stealing. They're not taking any property from you. If you restore your device to within Apple's desire, you're able to read your books again. Remember, when you buy a book you don't own the story, you own the physical book. When you buy an ebook, you don't own the story, you've bought electronic access to a book file. If you don't comply with the requirements of the providing service, then you are denied access... Until you comply. An ebook is software (or provided by software) and, as a consumer, you cannot own software that you haven't written. You can only buy access to use it within its own restrictions.
Apple has warned you: Running a modified copy of the OS is not supported.
Amazon will not prevent you from opening books that you purchase. All they might require you to do is to install a supported stock copy of the OS. Then you can open your books.
What's the problem?
My major problem with this is that Apple keeps allowing iBooks to violate the App Store's guidelines.
If any other App did this it would be rejected.
If any other App did this it would be rejected.
on a random side note I have seen and know of brakes on skis failing at no fault to the user. Most common way the brakes fail is they get frozen in ice so they fail activate correctly.
As for snow boards tethering is not a real issue since unlike skis they do not release on a crash. The entire reason skis bindings release is to protect ones knees. Snow boards do not have the risk of twisting ones knee in a crash like skis.