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Really? I thought they all sat together singing Kumbaya since Cook fired Forstall. That was the reason for the dismissal, no? It certainly was not to improve the quality of Apple software.
 
Sounds like it's infighting about control and power not ideas.
100% this. Verifiable fact: Departmental infighting was created 15 minutes after the concept of departments was invented. Invariably, large companies with multiple departments experience this from time to time. Each department tends to want to lead and prioritize their issues over others. Nothing new... keeping in mind this is just a rumor
 
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a) We don't know if this story is true.
b) Has anyone actually heard of this guy that quit? Who is he?
c) If this story is true and the guy quit, we don't necessarily know why or under what circumstances. I've worked with plenty of people in my life who were absolutely brilliant, but also stuck in their ways and unwilling to change ANYTHING EVER. Maybe this guy was one of those types.
 
Why in-source everything and risk putting everything in one basket when they don't have the expertise and the funding may be questionable due to slowing sales? I'm siding with the team to outsource and distribute it across Google first then Microsoft and Amazon cloud.
 
This story has an incredible amount of text not directly related to the story.

One guy apparently left, but other than that, there is no information that wasnt in t he headline.

Yep. You can stop reading after the third paragraph. Maybe the author is no subscriber of The Information and therefore could not get more information.
 
Size doesn't matter in this case. If you are going to use a phrase like this, its important to understand where it comes from

The phrase comes from the discovery of a recipe for an antidote to a poison. In the antidote, one of the ingredients was a grain of salt. Threats involving the poison were thus to be taken "with a grain of salt" and so less seriously.

So really its the addition of salt that matters, hence the modern day variant 'a pinch of salt'.
Your explanation would suggest that one grain is the maximum amount of incredulity that you can add, but that doesn't make sense. There must be ways to convey that a particular rumor should be taken even less seriously other rumors. Increasing the size of the grain, or the quantity of the grains conveys this idea.

What kind of salt do you use, anyway? Kosher? Rock?
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Apple once simplified its product lines and services.
Now Apple expands and adds product lines and services.

Read into it what you will...
Thank you. I will do that.
 
May just be a wild rumor, but I think user experience legitimizes the rumor. I've had nothing but quirky issues with Apple's cloud related services and know both family and clients with similar issues. Nothing horrific, but still not up to expectations. Perhaps if Tim Cook would spend a little less time using Apple to push social agendas and a little more time demanding results (channeling his inner Steve Jobs) we'd see less of these rumors. The fact is quality is no longer forefront at Apple. Too many distractions (see news about Apple Car development issues).
 
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Why in-source everything and risk putting everything in one basket when they don't have the expertise and the funding may be questionable due to slowing sales? I'm siding with the team to outsource and distribute it across Google first then Microsoft and Amazon cloud.
Ben Thompson, who runs the Stratechery blog and Exponent podcast thinks Apple should do a deal with Microsoft rather than bringing everything in-house, or buy Dropbox and let it run as a subsidiary.
 
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YES!!!! FIGHT CLUB! or The Gladiators! "Ladies and Gentleman..we got engineer A team and engineer B team ready to rumble.
How much more instability does Apple need? th.jpeg
1 instability....
2 instability...
3 instability...
3!


Come on, Apple....get it together and come back to what you used to be good at.
Go watch Steve Job's documentaries and be like him....being afraid as you'll get fired if you don't do satisfying work.
 
Ben Thompson, who runs the Stratechery blog and Exponent podcast thinks Apple should do a deal with Microsoft rather than bringing everything in-house, or buy Dropbox and let it run as a subsidiary.

I wouldn't listen to that guy. Google has the most experience with mobile, cloud and quality of service when dealing with the highest number of devices. I use mail and cloud storage from both companies and Google is clearly better.
 
This story doesn't make any sense.

That said, there will be infighting because there is no "best" way to do things. There are accepted ways of doing things, but they all depend on the internal processes, methods, and beliefs of the people in the organization. And of course, there's the resource/cost issues.

When it comes to this sort of fight, I'd ask why Siri is using so much infrastructure when it contributes little-to-nothing to the bottom line...especially if Siri is stealing budget and resources from the other teams.

And the answer, of course, is because "Siri is the future." Which to a lot of people sounds like total BS.
 
There are engineering teams for iCloud and Siri???

Big question: What have they been doing all these years?

Maybe fire everybody, get a new team and start over.

Probably the same success rate and amount of bugs.
Overhauling bad products just leaves them bad at the core.
 
Who's side is Apple really on? They chose a nation that could never invent and begged their way out on isolation in 1974.We invented the sever and they chose china! Major espionage daily from and Apple has been hacked!
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Adding Google was to reduce cost. Of the three providers named (Google, Amazon, Microsoft) Google would be your low man on the pole. Amazon would be your premier provider with Microsoft second. Not my opinion but that of analysts. Amazon demands a premium for their service and rightly so, they have amassed an infrastructure everyone else wants to copy.

I see two main reasons to want these services in house from the perspective of Apple. Cost control using your own centers versus paying someone else what is likely an inflated rate because they can. The other is security. If you already feel as a company that other companies could get their hands in your data you will be inclined to bring your data home. Apple is already paranoid that someone could or has installed something in the servers that might one day activate or is already looking and reporting from within the hardware. Having the hardware at your house gives you more oppertunity to scan the hardware looking for anything out of place. I envision a future of in house centers with machines designed in house and built by teams watched around the clock.

Its not the services in use today doing poorly, its simply that in order to have full control you need to own it end to end.
 
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I wouldn't listen to that guy. Google has the most experience with mobile, cloud and quality of service when dealing with the highest number of devices. I use mail and cloud storage from both companies and Google is clearly better.
Regardless, the point is Apple shouldn't bring it in house. Outsource it to a company that actually gets cloud services.
 
Big question: What have they been doing all these years?

Maybe fire everybody, get a new team and start over.

Probably the same success rate and amount of bugs.
Overhauling bad products just leaves them bad at the core.
Well...apple had been posting jobs.
 
Does the Apple community now split down the middle into Team Siri and Team iCloud ? ;)

Yes, this is obvious - home sharing is really broken; music match is on the way out; only MUSIC gets resources. Users like myself using home haring cannot understand why a multi-billion company cannot assign even a single engineer to fix bugs in home sharing; or improve AirPlay on the AppleTV (all gens, including aTV4 airplay transmit silence for music video's; yet the store SELLS these for more than single music tracks!).

This is the new Microsoft at work: fight for power replaces bug fixes for existing software users. I've already written to eddie, but he's busy talking to Bono ...
 
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