That's an educated risk I'm willing to take over some hearsay reported on MacRumors. No offense to MacRumors. However, not all reporting of this nature is as slow as you make it out to be.
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iCloud for Windows Users Complain of Corrupted Videos, Photos From Strangers
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Mine isn’t a new account… happened to me a few months back, and yeah I get the skepticism as it’s clearly not a common issue. And I’m pretty certain my computer wasn’t compromised in anyway…
At the same time I like how some just will do everything in their ability to avoid blame on Apple and stick their head in the sand and deflect it off on a different entity when coming to speculating the cause… There could be certain rare conditions server side that cause it.. a bug doesn’t necessarily have to effect millions.
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I find it amazing that people read news stories like this (and I realize some people here just read the thread title and don't bother to actually read the article itself before spouting off 🙄) with unverified info and just assume the issues are not only exactly as described but also rampant. Even the article says the alleged "photos from strangers" appearing is "rare". Obviously if it is indeed happening, then it shouldn't be (even rarely), but let's not freak out too much here. Obviously this is something that would be a high priority fix for Apple if true.
@bobcomer What's to disagree with here? Just hitting "disagree" without explanation isn't very helpful.
@bobcomer What's to disagree with here? Just hitting "disagree" without explanation isn't very helpful.
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We don't know it has nothing to do with Windows. I haven't seen any conclusive evidence to prove otherwise.
While nothing is outside the realm of possibility, I'm skeptical as well.
However, there are those who blame Apple relentlessly and stick their heads in the sands and ignore the evidence to the contrary or confuse opinion with fact. Yes, I agree it could be a rare bug and affect less than 10 people. Or, it simply could be nothing.
Thus blindly blaming windows fault is even more stupid. It’s just pure hatred: anything apple stuff happening on windows, “windows BAD”.
Geez after 50 years you think you would be good at your job!
Now as Senior Systems Engineer and Solutions Architect myself, explain to me how a client side OS or application (Endpoint) is responsible for Apple Servers (backend) leaking information?
The client software can have all the bugs it likes, the backend should not be leaking data that is outside of that users context.
This has nothing to do with Windows being insecure/buggy nor iCloud Photos for Windows being insecure/buggy, this is entirely Apples servers being insecure/buggy.
I'm looking forward to hear what your 50 years of wisdom can enlighten me on.
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Windows has a lot of security malware/functionings that can cause data leaks into the client system from a server end point unit. I've seen example of this millions of times. Microsoft has a lot of issues trust me.
Why isn't it happening on other platforms if it's a problem? Because the OS if Windows in this case. Thats why I think its not an Apple problem for sure.
No way. That doesn't even make sense server-wise.
No way there either, your first sentence disqualifies any trust by me. You just sound biased and not with much Windows experience.
I don't know, but security should be handled by the server, and apparently it's not, which is a horrible way to run security.
As a Senior System (just one?) Engineer and Solutions Architect yourself, if you have years of experience the first thing you should conclude is that we simply do not have enough information.
What exactly happened in more detail? What are you system specs, what version of Windows 11, what patch level, what software do you have installed, what security software is installed, wired or wireless, how many times did it happen, can you reproduce it......etc....etc.
What we have is a single report, plus the friend backing it up, either one or both accounts are new and NOTHING else.
Sure, we can all hypothesize what we think it could be, and I as a 32 year systems (as in more than one) enthusiast/engineer/architect and now Sr. IT manager of Infrastructure and Security....would agree that if it is happening as stated, it would probably be a server side issue. While I really like Apple products, I have used Windows since version 286....some 32 years ago when I was in the US military and still do today. Both are good at the things they do well, and I use them both every day.
That said, my years of experience would make me ask for way more information if this was brought to me before jumping to conclusions. Some people on here are practically foaming at the mouth ready to burn down Apple and iCloud over a single report by Joe Internet, in website forum that is driven by clicks and ad revenue.
Yes, but that goes the other way too. You are responding to a post that was reacting to someone who was foaming at the mouth to burn Microsoft/Windows over the same single report (and that coming from someone who claims to have 50 years experience as a certified system engineer).
Off topic, but:
I used OneDrive on my Mac, but the SSD got rather full. So I told OneDrive to only store my files on the server, and download them ad-hoc. The SSD didn't show any gains in free space, so I searched, and learned that there's a full copy of my OneDrive in:
~/Library/Group Containers/UBF8T346G9.OneDriveSyncClientSuite/OneDrive.noindex/OneDrive
Do you have that as well?
Thank you.
MacDaddy, I have made an edit to my typo of "System" to "Systems". My sincere apologies, for I was swiping away on my iPhone keyboard single-handedly whilst on a train. I hope you and the 20,000+ systems I have administered have mercy on my soul.
Anyhow, I completely agree with you on the "need more information". It could be a hoax to start panic and fear in people using iCloud Photos. However, I feel you missed my point completely. Though to be fair I didn't articulate my intent, because to me it is irrelevant.
If this indeed is a real issue, the statements made by @crispingob are false.
Again, I will repeat, you CAN NOT blame the client OS or application from accessing information that it shouldn't be able to in the first place. If the client side software or OS has a bug which unintentionally allows it to exploit an external system, the external system has a bug/exploit that needs to be patched. In other words, even without the client side existing at all, the server software still has a vulnerability.
Therefore, you can't make daft comments like "Windows sucks its all because of Windows"
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I'll also add (just for you)...
"What exactly happened in more detail? What are *you* (I'm of the Homo Sapien class system) system specs, what version of Windows 11, what patch level, what software do you have installed, what security software is installed, wired or wireless, how many times did it happen, can you reproduce it......etc....etc."
Ah yes, basic troubleshooting that I expect from level 1 helpdesk role.
Now assuming this is a real bug for the sake of argument.
Even if you were to go through all that, it wouldn't be the client side at fault, because the client side should never be able to access information that isn't intended for them.
To elaborate further, it doesn't mean that it's the iCloud servers either.
For example, the fault could be because you are in an environment that's using an iCloud caching server. The random frames of other users content could simply be other local users cached data.
If this was the case, it could mean there's no fault at the Apple server side or the client side, but instead a bug with the caching service running on a local Mac mini (as an example). Troubleshooting if this occurs when connected to the LAN (with the caching server) or via the WAN (no caching server) would obviously assist in finding the fault. But again.... not a fault of the client endpoint.
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Then sadly you really don't get how things work...
I will repeat, you CAN NOT blame the client OS or application from accessing information that it shouldn't be able to in the first place. If the client side software or OS has a bug which unintentionally allows it to exploit an external system, the external system has a bug/exploit that needs to be patched. In other words, even without the client side existing at all, the server software still has a vulnerability.
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You keep saying this, but it’s false. I’ve been here for years.
I'll know in about a week. My Studio is due to be delivered on Wednesday, and I should have everything up and running by the weekend. In the meantime, I haven't had that problem on my 2008 iMac and 2012 MBA, but both are running OS versions so old that I can't even remember the name(s). It's possible that OneDrive might be duping only in Monterey. Hopefully not!
Been following this for two weeks and no major outlets are reporting this and I haven't seen any evidence. Hard to believe this is the kind of thing that would remain quiet. I think it's more rumors than Mac.
I don't think it is possible. The story would be worth a ton of money and every news station would be reporting. I'd be surprised if it were real.
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Congrats on the new Studio 👌 Yes, if you have the time please check that OneDrive location, if it's duplicating files. TIA
For the millionth time, the issue was resolved the day after this was originally posted. No one can follow up on this story unless they have a Time Machine. Which is good news for Apple…
I came back to this thread today to see if it was resolved yet… The article's title hasn't been updated with an "[Update: Issue resolved]" like MacRumors normally does…
Does this mean the issue was silently resolved by Apple, without public acknowledgement? Or was there some sort of announcement about a server patch?