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I'm surprised by the lack of imagination of some posters on here. This is Apple we're talking about and if there's one thing Apple tend to do very well it's innovation.

I don't honestly believe Apple would charge $25 for what would essentially be an online dropbox for music files only - especially only iTunes-purchased music files. It's just not their style. Furthermore, I see no reason why Apple would need to negotiate with the music labels if this is all they were doing. God knows none of the other online-storage companies have deals with them.

Apple also know that the vast majority of users can fit their entire music library on their iPods, iPads and iPhones. Of course there will always be some of us who can't, but then it becomes a simple case of choosing to sync the music you're most likely to want to listen to.

Apple know that many, many people listen to music on their iDevices while commuting or travelling. Generally, if you're in a place with a good, solid WiFi signal you're likely doing something that would preclude you listening to music anyway. Either in the office, or at home where you can listen to your music from your computer. It wouldn't make sense for them to launch a service which requires you to have a decent 3G connection to listen to music because the time most users want to listen to music is the time they're least likely to have a decent, stable, signal.

Personally I believe Apple will use iCloud as an online-syncing service. For example, I will purchase music on my computer and have it download as happens now. This will also be synced into my 'iCloud', from which my iPhone and iPad (if I choose them to) will also sync - so when I want to listen to a particular song, it'll just be there, on my phone, without having to resync with my computer.

Of course that's only the beginning of what's possible and I'm sure Apple will have some surprises in store.
 
I just hope it will be more affordable than Mobil Me. I would like the opportunity to sync from all my Apple devices.
Gmail IMAP if free and can be used with Apple Mail and iOS devices, Google Calendar is free and syncs with iCal and iOS devices, 2GB of Dropbox is free and syncs with OSX and iOS devices. Google and Amazon now offer free or almost free storage for music. There's plenty of stuff out there that syncs and you don't have to spend a dime. :)
 
Dot Mac & Mobile Me $99, Leopard $129, Snow Leopard $29, iLife $49, iWork $79, Final Cut Studio $999, FCPX $299, Songs on iTunes $1.29 & $.99, etc........

Sitting in front of your computer and knowing it all is going to "just work"... priceless.
 
I'm surprised by the lack of imagination of some posters on here. This is Apple we're talking about and if there's one thing Apple tend to do very well it's innovation.

I don't honestly believe Apple would charge $25 for what would essentially be an online dropbox for music files only - especially only iTunes-purchased music files. It's just not their style. Furthermore, I see no reason why Apple would need to negotiate with the music labels if this is all they were doing. God knows none of the other online-storage companies have deals with them.

Apple also know that the vast majority of users can fit their entire music library on their iPods, iPads and iPhones. Of course there will always be some of us who can't, but then it becomes a simple case of choosing to sync the music you're most likely to want to listen to.

Apple know that many, many people listen to music on their iDevices while commuting or travelling. Generally, if you're in a place with a good, solid WiFi signal you're likely doing something that would preclude you listening to music anyway. Either in the office, or at home where you can listen to your music from your computer. It wouldn't make sense for them to launch a service which requires you to have a decent 3G connection to listen to music because the time most users want to listen to music is the time they're least likely to have a decent, stable, signal.

Personally I believe Apple will use iCloud as an online-syncing service. For example, I will purchase music on my computer and have it download as happens now. This will also be synced into my 'iCloud', from which my iPhone and iPad (if I choose them to) will also sync - so when I want to listen to a particular song, it'll just be there, on my phone, without having to resync with my computer.

Of course that's only the beginning of what's possible and I'm sure Apple will have some surprises in store.

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There's no way that the labels would agree to let Apple host all of the music files that you have because there's no guarantee that you actually purchased those files or legitimately ripped them from a CD. This isn't surprising at all.

Everyone should be taking all of this with a grain of salt and waiting for Monday.

So then when will the labels be asking Apple to disable my use of my 1000s of legally-ripped CDs in iTunes or iOS???
 
I'm surprised by the lack of imagination of some posters on here. This is Apple we're talking about and if there's one thing Apple tend to do very well it's innovation.

I don't honestly believe Apple would charge $25 for what would essentially be an online dropbox for music files only - especially only iTunes-purchased music files. It's just not their style. Furthermore, I see no reason why Apple would need to negotiate with the music labels if this is all they were doing. God knows none of the other online-storage companies have deals with them.

You are obviously not familiar with MobileMe.

I am hopeful for what they will lay out on Monday, but I'm not holding my breath that it will be much more than what the LA Times laid out.
 
I'm surprised by the lack of imagination of some posters on here. This is Apple we're talking about and if there's one thing Apple tend to do very well it's innovation.

I don't honestly believe Apple would charge $25 for what would essentially be an online dropbox for music files only - especially only iTunes-purchased music files. It's just not their style. Furthermore, I see no reason why Apple would need to negotiate with the music labels if this is all they were doing. God knows none of the other online-storage companies have deals with them.

Apple also know that the vast majority of users can fit their entire music library on their iPods, iPads and iPhones. Of course there will always be some of us who can't, but then it becomes a simple case of choosing to sync the music you're most likely to want to listen to.

Apple know that many, many people listen to music on their iDevices while commuting or travelling. Generally, if you're in a place with a good, solid WiFi signal you're likely doing something that would preclude you listening to music anyway. Either in the office, or at home where you can listen to your music from your computer. It wouldn't make sense for them to launch a service which requires you to have a decent 3G connection to listen to music because the time most users want to listen to music is the time they're least likely to have a decent, stable, signal.

Personally I believe Apple will use iCloud as an online-syncing service. For example, I will purchase music on my computer and have it download as happens now. This will also be synced into my 'iCloud', from which my iPhone and iPad (if I choose them to) will also sync - so when I want to listen to a particular song, it'll just be there, on my phone, without having to resync with my computer.

Of course that's only the beginning of what's possible and I'm sure Apple will have some surprises in store.

Exactly how I'm envisioning this. It's all possible too.
 
Bring on the iCloud! Hope this doesn't fail like MM did upon release.
I am interested to see if they can pull it off. Apple makes great devices and great software. But they have never done the web/cloud well at all. Ever. Other companies like Google and Dropbox "get it" when it comes to cloud services. Maybe not as pretty as Apple, but the services deliver. Hook up Gmail IMAP into Apple Mail - no problem - and Dropbox is the iDisk that Apple could never deliver. They're stuff "just works" which is what one always expects from Apple. Hopefully they will change all of that and Apple will now "get it" when it comes to the cloud.
 
You are obviously not familiar with MobileMe.

I am hopeful for what they will lay out on Monday, but I'm not holding my breath that it will be much more than what the LA Times laid out.

Obviously. I've only been a subscriber since day one.

Just as my post states I believe iCloud will, MobileMe synchronises e-mail, iDisk, calendars, contacts, notes, etc. It doesn't require your iDevice to have an Internet connection to view them. I see no reason to believe iCloud won't do the same for music.
 
I am hopeful for what they will lay out on Monday, but I'm not holding my breath that it will be much more than what the LA Times laid out.

There's evidence in Lion and iOS that it will be a larger set of syncing services.
See here and here.

Moreover, the Lion+ iOS 5 + iCloud banner would indicate that iCloud will be a pervasive part of both OSs, and that means data syncing. Apple would not be hyping this is if it were just a music service. Hell, on their own press release they describe it as their cloud services.

(That said, it's completely possible that the LA Times is getting the $25 from an iTunes streaming only tier to the service, which would be disappointing.)
 
I don't honestly believe Apple would charge $25 for what would essentially be an online dropbox for music files only

ok..

Personally I believe Apple will use iCloud as an online-syncing service. For example, I will purchase music on my computer and have it download as happens now. This will also be synced into my 'iCloud', from which my iPhone and iPad (if I choose them to) will also sync - so when I want to listen to a particular song, it'll just be there, on my phone, without having to resync with my computer.

Of course that's only the beginning of what's possible and I'm sure Apple will have some surprises in store.

but what you've just described basically *is* a music version of dropbox?
 
Excuse me?

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Kool-Aid is also commonly assumed to be the base of the poison mix that 909 people used to commit suicide at Jonestown.

So, Kool-Aid has become associated with blind allegiance to an authority figure.
 
Is apple trying? Come on apple what the hell are you thinking? Your suppose to come up with a better solution then the other guys, not a more restrictive one. Come on you can do better. If amazon can do it for free so can you get the ****** out of bed with the labels and do some real inovation
 
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lol 25$ and u can only use music u already paid for LAME .... and useless to me as i have like 20 songs purchased from the store

Unless the vast majority of your music collection is purchased from iTunes I fail to see why anyone would buy this service.

I'd like to have a way to integrate my iTunes library on my NAS at home into the cloud service. This way I could have a combination of streaming from my own drives and apple's servers depending on where I purchased it.

Considering ive got exactly zero songs purchased thru iTunes, it would seem iCloud may as well be vapourware for me.


iCloud will not only be a music streaming service. It will be a small part of iCloud. THEREFORE evaluate the other parts before saying you won't pay for iCloud.
 
I think services like Rdio and Spotify are the future of music. Why buy music, and then on top of that pay $25/year, when I can pay $10/month for unlimited music. That's around $6000 over the next 50 years for an "unlimited" selection of music.

Now if iCloud let me stream the entire iTunes catalog for ~$10/month, then i'd consider it.

Why pay money for something you can't own. This is why I've favored iTunes over subscription services. To each their own. :D
 
iCloud will not only be a music streaming service. It will be a small part of iCloud. THEREFORE evaluate the other parts before saying you won't pay for iCloud.
Apple hasn't announced anything. We'll find out Monday what iCloud entails and what it costs.
 
I'm surprised by the lack of imagination of some posters on here. This is Apple we're talking about and if there's one thing Apple tend to do very well it's innovation.

I don't honestly believe Apple would charge $25 for what would essentially be an online dropbox for music files only - especially only iTunes-purchased music files. It's just not their style. Furthermore, I see no reason why Apple would need to negotiate with the music labels if this is all they were doing. God knows none of the other online-storage companies have deals with them.

Apple also know that the vast majority of users can fit their entire music library on their iPods, iPads and iPhones. Of course there will always be some of us who can't, but then it becomes a simple case of choosing to sync the music you're most likely to want to listen to.

Apple know that many, many people listen to music on their iDevices while commuting or travelling. Generally, if you're in a place with a good, solid WiFi signal you're likely doing something that would preclude you listening to music anyway. Either in the office, or at home where you can listen to your music from your computer. It wouldn't make sense for them to launch a service which requires you to have a decent 3G connection to listen to music because the time most users want to listen to music is the time they're least likely to have a decent, stable, signal.

Personally I believe Apple will use iCloud as an online-syncing service. For example, I will purchase music on my computer and have it download as happens now. This will also be synced into my 'iCloud', from which my iPhone and iPad (if I choose them to) will also sync - so when I want to listen to a particular song, it'll just be there, on my phone, without having to resync with my computer.

Of course that's only the beginning of what's possible and I'm sure Apple will have some surprises in store.

I agree, everyone is bashing icloud before it's even out and its features known. Apple is smarter than some are assuming.
 
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