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iCloud Free Trial, $25 Per Year, and Ads?

toddybody said:
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So, if anyone thinks that Apple will do something beyond charging $25 for an iTunes-purchased-only streaming service, they are a fanboy? I guess you're one of those people who thinks an iPad is just a useless oversized iPod Touch?

Please find somewhere else to troll.
 
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I see no use for this if it only works with purchases.
 
GeekLawyer said:
Retrospectively, no, not really. But prospectively, maybe.

My hope remains that it will be bigger than the limited terms most are thinking in.
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I hope they knock it out of the park. However, be ready for Ping 2.

BTW, I think you need to change your location, since your tile no longer has the tent of the Internet Superstar from the iPad 1.5 launch a few months ago.
 
What about LaLa?

Apple bought them in December of 2009 for 80 Milllion.

Lala was an online music store created by Silicon Valley entrepreneur Bill Nguyen. The service allowed members to legally create online shareable "playlists" (formerly known as "radio stations") of their own uploaded music which could play full length songs for other registered Lala members, purchase MP3s, stream music on a one-time basis or as inexpensively purchased "web songs," buy new CDs from the Lala store, leave blurbs on other members' pages, and participate in the community forums. Lala contracted with major labels and offered a large catalog of albums to stream or purchase. Their home page claimed over 8 million licensed songs available.
 
taxiapple,

What would make perfect sense for iCloud, because of the Lala purchase, would be something like a Pandora clone where you could listen to any music in the iTunes library for $25/year. And you could create your own stations just like Pandora. And it would help Apple sell more music on iTunes, as you could click any music you hear, and buy it.

Maybe this is why Pandora is not on AppleTV?
 
Well I was expecting at least some sort of free service, maybe a small amount of storage for free and then pay for more. If this costs any amount of money, any at all, I'm not interested. And ads too? No thanks.

I've got hundreds of gigs of music I downloaded from other places than ITMS, and I'm sure most people are like that too (maybe not hundreds, but I doubt most people have the majority of their library from ITMS, I'm sure most of it is from p2p and CDs). So if iCloud doesn't play nice with a collection like that it's going to be a failure.
 
Full of Win said:
I hope they knock it out of the park. However, be ready for Ping 2.
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I think it'll have its strong points, be very well integrated within the Apple ecosystem, and might have a couple of surprises still. But yeah, the music aspect seems likely to be a let down. Can't blame Apple for that, but it does take some of the sheen off the product.
 
Piggie said:
I suppose I'm of the opinion that ANY Service the media companies like and sign up to HAS to be bad for the consumer.
That's just the way of the world.
Good for Big Business = Bad for the man in the street.

We all want more freedom, options, better pricing, more openness and all these things are the opposite of what the major companies want.

So if Apple has done deals and they are happy, whatever it is, it's probably bad. that's what I fear anyway.
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Go buy a Windows PC, a Zune and use google.
 
Sky Blue said:
I'd rather store things locally, not have to worry about buffering and save $25 a year.
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I would have said that until I got all my music on Google Music and used it. I love having everything on there and with me at all times. When I get a new device, my music is magically loaded on there.
 
firewood said:
This is another mental error. Check with the copyright office. The copyright on that music composition or performance doesn't list you as the legal assignee, artist or owner. So you purchased something else. Something far more limited. Not the music.
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That's because the copyright office only tracks the owner of registered *copyrights*, not the owner of *copies*. (You also can't check with the copyright office and see yourself registered as the owner of that book you bought at the local book store, because it is a *copy* of the work, not the *copyright* for the work.)
 
mrat93 said:
$25 per year would be pretty nice since my MobileMe subscription renews the day after the keynote. :)
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So should we all be smart and start a MobileMe trial before the switch so we can have a better @me.com email? :D

Seriously, I'm thinking I should do it now before things get changed around. :confused:
 
Warbrain said:
There's no way that the labels would agree to let Apple host all of the music files that you have because there's no guarantee that you actually purchased those files or legitimately ripped them from a CD. This isn't surprising at all.

Everyone should be taking all of this with a grain of salt and waiting for Monday.
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Interesting statement. Google/Amazon's work with you uploading a copy, where what you buy in iTunes should just be there. I could just upload what I buy in iTunes to my Amazon drive and be done with it.

Will be interesting to see the details next week.

Personally, I think Mobile me should be included with the service for $25 a year. Mobile Me doesn't nothing free services don't already offer (and in most cases the free services are better).
 
I'm just going to try Google Music for now. It's free (at least for now) and you can upload any music you want. It doesn't have to be iTMS purchased stuff. I buy CD's, Amazon, and iTMS as well so it would be nice to be able to load up everything and not just the iTMS content.
 
What i want out of this.

Is for apple to integrate icloud into native apps.

Like music in ipod.

pictures in the native photo app.

Instead they have other apps in place. I dont care the price or what if.

I am already paying for spotify (U.S) if they can make me use the ipod app with icloud i am sold.
 
DakotaGuy said:
I'm just going to try Google Music for now. It's free (at least for now) and you can upload any music you want. It doesn't have to be iTMS purchased stuff. I buy CD's, Amazon, and iTMS as well so it would be nice to be able to load up everything and not just the iTMS content.
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Wait so icloud will only work with ITMS purchases?
 
Sky Blue said:
I'd rather store things locally, not have to worry about buffering and save $25 a year.
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Exactly....or all the other questions that Apple and other cloud services refuse to answer in a simple FAQ:

  • what happens if your account is accidentally deleted/corrupted by no fault of your own?
  • what happens to the tunes if you do not renew?
  • what happens if the service is bought or goes out of business?
  • who exactly owns the tunes? Can you download them in full quality? How often? Are they copy protected somehow?
  • just like owning a cd, can my family members access my service? What are the limitations?
  • just like owning a cd or book, can I transfer/sell/give my songs to others? What are the limitations?
  • can I get a backup of all my music?
  • what is the guarantee that my music will 100% always be there? afterall, I paid not only for the service but also the songs in the first place.

and a ton of other questions the public SHOULD BE ASKING BEFORE SIGNING UP.
 
This service will simply FAIL. Internet coverage is not good, speeds are slow and capped plans make this all poor.
 
johnfnwhiteside said:
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I see no use for this if it only works with purchases.
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About time someone says this. :confused:
 
BlackMangoTree said:
This service will simply FAIL. Internet coverage is not good, speeds are slow and capped plans make this all poor.
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Care to elaborate?

Your post makes some sense for cell-carrier data transmissions...but IMO your comment makes no sense for the billions of us on WIFI. In fact, my iPhone is on WIFI 90% of the time given that rarely NEED to get data transmissions while in my car or walking down the street or sitting on a beach. But that's me.

Cloud services, in general, have a big appeal (storage really, not so much streaming speeds) and is a huge market segment for the entire computer (personal and business) industry. Cloud services will grow exponentially over the next 10-20 years.
 
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