iCloud - How do I know it works?

Discussion in 'iOS 5 and earlier' started by kilcher, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. kilcher macrumors 65816

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    I can obviously tell it has my email, contacts, calendar, and find my iPhone but how do I check to see if it has my music and how recently that information was backed up?

    At least in iTunes I had something to look at, now am I just supposed to trust it's there?
     
  2. Lostsol macrumors regular

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    Feel stupid but I'm kinda in same boat with you. For example-- since iTunes match doesn't start for a few weeks... If I sync with the cloud will it not sync my non purchased music?
     
  3. bigchief macrumors 6502a

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    That's a damn good question. I turned off icloud and went back to backing up to my laptop. I don't trust something I can't see.
     
  4. nmork macrumors regular

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    It doesn't back up your music, and backups on your PC don't back up music either.

    That's what your iTunes library is for, and why it takes so long to sync after you restore from a backup.
     
  5. Lostsol macrumors regular

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    Understand that but according to apple the cloud can "cut the cord" and make you computer -free. So in theory I could use iCloud and throw away my computer. But then where do I go to "see" my iTunes library?

    Like I said --- I guess I feel dumb that I can't figure this out but I'm missing something in the iCloud explanation.
     
  6. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    Why not do both? I am.
     
  7. dccorona macrumors 68020

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    at the end of the month, when iTunes Match goes live, assuming you pay the $20 to get iTunes match for non-itunes bought songs (or have all your music from iTunes), your music "in the cloud" will appear in the music app like any other song, but will have a little cloud logo next to it

    until iTunes match goes live, you can't see your iTunes library, because it isn't there yet
     
  8. indisguise macrumors member

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    its all in settings

    if you go into icloud settings and click on the backup settings you can see how large your backup file is, what is getting backed up, and what iCloud services you have turned on. iCloud and iTunes in the clound are 2 separate things. right now you can redownload any music,tv shows,apps, and books you have previously purchased,thats it.
     
  9. SR71 macrumors 68000

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    You can check the last time that your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch was backed up to iCloud by going into Settings--->iCloud--->Storage & Backup. Scroll down and there'll be a big "Back Up Now" button and below it you'll see that it says "Last Backup: [Whatever time your iPhone was last backed up at]".

    For example, mine says "Last Backup: 8:20 PM (I did this back up manually by hitting the "Back Up Now" button).

    I've been using iOS 5 since beta 5 and have noticed that iCloud does daily backups of your iPhone during the late night and it does it completely in the background, so you don't even know it happens. It just works.

    Trust in the iCloud. It just works.
     
  10. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    What are you talking about? My music is backed up all over the place - it's on my computer and at least 2 external hard drives.

    And if your library wasn't in the cloud, how the heck would you have instant download of items you purchased from one device onto another?
     
  11. donnaw macrumors 65816

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    I just started a new thread kind of about this. I wanted to sync contacts, etc. but apparently your computer does the actual sync. So even if we use iCloud we can't 'cut the cord' because, as I understand it, you need Outlook (or the Mac equlivant) for Contacts, Calendar, etc. and IE ( or Mac equlivant) for your bookmarks.

    I signged on to iCloud and can't see any of the stuff that should be there. While I never minded backing up to my pc I was really excited about not needing it if I was traveling and something happened.

    Now I don't know what happens at the next OTA update. Might it wipe some stuff and if it's not stored in iCloud must we restore from our computer? Hopefully the incremental updates won't do this but who knows.
     
  12. Lostsol macrumors regular

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    Let me ask this way. If I go to just iCloud as my itunes source-- say I have 100 purchased songs but I only have 50 synced to my iPhone. Where can I see the list of the other 50 if I decide I want to add some to my iPhone?
     
  13. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    You do it from your phone. Check the "purchased" tab.
     
  14. Lostsol macrumors regular

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    The purchased tab in the music app will show all the purchased music in my iTunes account INCLUDING the songs I didn't choose to sync ?
     
  15. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    I just edited a contact in the cloud, and it sent it down to my phone and my iPad pretty much the moment I did it... no wires.

    Doesn't mean I won't still occasionally sync to my computer - I will. But contacts DOES work without a computer.

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    Yes - if you bought it, it will be there.

    I'm not sure how the Match will work when it becomes available. We'll just have to wait and see.

    I wouldn't suggest anyone just trash their iTunes library on their computer, but that doesn't mean they should be afraid of the cloud.
     
  16. donnaw macrumors 65816

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  17. Lostsol macrumors regular

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    Okay I just figured out the answer to my own dumb question. You are talking about the purchased tab in the iTunes app not the music app. Under purchased tab there is an "all" tab And a "not on this phone " tab.

    Thanks for your helP folks.
     
  18. vitzr macrumors 68030

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    Peace of mind comes from the fact that iClouds infrastructure is by Microsoft. They have years of experience. While Apples too tight lipped to reveal it, the other highly successful component is Amazons EC2. This is Apples secret. Azure & EC2 will not fail. They've been proven in the large scale enterprise space.
     
  19. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    Oops, sorry! Yes, iTunes.

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  20. Lostsol macrumors regular

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    Greytmom: Thanks for your help.
    Another question-- when you say you just edited a contact in the cloud....where did you do that? At iCloud.com?

    Again-- I guess my actions in my 20's must have fried so many brain cells that this stuff just can't sink in.
     
  21. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    Yep, picked one at random to see if it would immediately download, and it did.

    Next goal is to edit one or add one on one of my devices and see if it shows up in the cloud and on the other device (iPad and iPhone). But, it's 12;45am here, so I'll probably play with that tomorrow!
     
  22. verwon macrumors 68030

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    For those still asking read this ^^^^^
     
  23. donnaw macrumors 65816

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