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iCloud, Mail, Photos and Other Apple Services Experiencing Issues [Updated]

Sandstorm said:
What the hell is wrong with Apple - the richest and most "innovative" tech company, that it just can't seem to create and maintain reliable cloud services?!? :confused:
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Apple .Mac (cost $99.95 per year; expanded Mac.com e-mail capabilities; 100MB of iDisk storage, ...) - DIED!

Apple MobileMe ("push" services, iWeb, ...) - DIED!

iCloud - ...

Do you see a pattern already? ;)

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JarScott said:
It was my understanding that Apple kept all of their servers in-house. Meaning even if they bought Dropbox, they'd likely migrate the service to their own servers but after that, what are you left with? Does Dropbox really have any patents or valuable assets of interest to Apple?
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I don't know about patents, but Dropbox' asset is certainly "it just works"! ;)
 
Where is the rumor?

Its certainly not news. iCloud is work in progress. Maintenance is not really an issue, is it?
 
Sandstorm said:
Do you ever hear about such issues with Google, with Dropbox, with Spotify, with Microsoft and others? Almost never. I use many different services many years, but it is ONLY Apple services that are regularly down, slow or otherwise affected.

What the hell is wrong with Apple - the richest and most "innovative" tech company, that it just can't seem to create and maintain reliable cloud services?!? :confused:
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Doing cloud services is far from trivial. Contrary to what you might believe, the above services do go wrong on many occasions, and in extreme cases have been out of action for many hours at a time. Most of the time they're fine, but it's the hiccups that get all the attention.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Apple made use of Microsoft Azure and Amazon Web Services to do a good bit of their cloudy stuff. If I wanted to develop a system to stream out thousands of concurrent movies, for example, the last thing I would do is build my own server farm for that.
 
keysofanxiety said:
Yeah, except Apple's interruptions happen so frequently that Kanye West is considering a lawsuit.
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MH01 said:
That is not in dispute. It's how often they happen, that we are questioning here.
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Is it any more than other similar services? Go to downdetector.com and look at iCloud. 5 outages in the past 8 months.

Then go check out Google, Gmail and Outlook.

This is not a way to rag on those services so much as it is a way to underscore the point that when you use online services you're going to have to accept some downtime as just the cost of doing business. These companies should and do try and limit these interruptions as much as they can, but they just cannot stop these things from happening entirely.
 
I particularly liked the phrase "Users may have experienced slower than normal response when using most iCloud services."

Things are back to normal now, but for a couple of hours I could not access my .me account at all, no matter if I tried via Mail, the Browser route, my iPad or my Android phone. Any "slower" & it would have been in reverse! ;)
 
RakEgg said:
But none of the above is worth a toss when you can't get to your stuff.
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Of course, but your local storage needs electricity for you to use it. Does that mean you just shouldn't bother using a computer at all because power cuts sometimes happen?
 
Shaun said:
Seems like a regular occurence. I've never had any problems with my cloud services. Dropbox is so reliable. Even hotmail hardly ever goes down these days. These constant problems must be hurting Apple's credability in the enterprise sector.
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They're quite the opposite of 'constant'. While I disagree with you, I think the word you're looking for is 'frequent' or 'recurrent'.

Also, I'd postulate that perhaps it's less obvious if/when Dropbox stops working, given the manner of interaction a user has with it is different to Apple's wide-ranging and pervasive iCloud services that are often in active use throughout the day (more so than Dropbox). That and the fact that iCloud outages are inherently reported more readily on Apple/Mac websites.
 
till213 said:
Apple .Mac (cost $99.95 per year; expanded Mac.com e-mail capabilities; 100MB of iDisk storage, ...) - DIED!

Apple MobileMe ("push" services, iWeb, ...) - DIED!

iCloud - ...

Do you see a pattern already? ;)

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I think you must have meant updated not died. I still have my .mac address.
What is the amount of free iCloud storage now :)
 
burgman said:
I think you must have meant updated not died. I still have my .mac address.
What is the amount of free iCloud storage now :)
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Indeed!

And, I've found - over the years from iTools to iCloud - that the utility provided by Apple's various online services has always far outweighed the inconveniences that occasional outages have caused.
 
burgman said:
I think you must have meant updated not died. I still have my .mac address.
What is the amount of free iCloud storage now :)
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5GB in total for free, until now.

0.99 USD for 20GB in total.

or 1.27 AUD for 20GB in total.
 
orbital~debris said:
They're quite the opposite of 'constant'. While I disagree with you, I think the word you're looking for is 'frequent' or 'recurrent'.

Also, I'd postulate that perhaps it's less obvious if/when Dropbox stops working, given the manner of interaction a user has with it is different to Apple's wide-ranging and pervasive iCloud services that are often in active use throughout the day (more so than Dropbox). That and the fact that iCloud outages are inherently reported more readily on Apple/Mac websites.
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Also Dropbox has a very clever solution. It stores files on your local hard drive and mirrors them in the cloud. So I guess in a sense it's more like a RAID solution than a cloud service. I use it store all my files so I don't have to back up to an external hard drive and I can access everything from my iPhone or iPad when out.
 
I hope iCloud only has "hobby" status at Apple with AppleTV, because that's what it feels like.

A group of drunken CS Majors in school experimenting with cloud storage.
 
kbmb said:
Please no. Don't need Apple buying a company and screwing up their already good service!!

Apple + the Cloud = Clueless

-Kevin
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I agree. I have finally given up on iCloud ever becoming fully functional. "It just works"?
 
Is anyone else still having trouble with Mail? I can receive messages, but can't send via my Mac, but can via my iPhone.

Error Message said:
Connections to the server “p02-smtp.mail.me.com” on the default ports timed out.
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jsagurton said:
Is anyone else still having trouble with Mail? I can receive messages, but can't send via my Mac, but can via my iPhone.
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Yes, my incoming iCloud emails are getting delayed or possibly blocked. Sent a few test emails to my .mac account over an hour ago and still has not been received. Outgoing working okay though.
 
Shirasaki said:
5GB in total for free, until now.

0.99 USD for 20GB in total.

or 1.27 AUD for 20GB in total.
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My post was to point out the upgrade from $99/year for 100MEG storage.
I think todays prices are an upgrade not "died"
 
No iCloud team, and it shows.

Apple do nto have a dedicated team for iCloud. Each team is responsible for iCloud, and hence the complete mess that is evident. Apple's iCloud is a hosh-posh that is poorly organized and poorly executed. Put a team together to handle iCloud, and Apple could have a useful service. Still cheaper to just buy a hard drive and back up your own data. Not hard, adn certainly not expensive.
 
burgman said:
My post was to point out the upgrade from $99/year for 100MEG storage.
I think todays prices are an upgrade not "died"
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Apple periodically change the name of their service. I think only when they want to remove cloud services mah those things die eventually.
 
Thunderhawks said:
dropbox FTW

Buy them already!
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Don't make me laugh.

Apple TRIED to buy Dropbox.

Want to know what their response was?

Starts with an F and then ends with a 'You'.

End of story.

Will never happen.

Just because Apple has money doesn't mean they should buy, buy, buy all the companies out.

Point of the story? The real business world does not work like you play on Monopoly.
 
Apple cloud mail has been having issues for ever. If I search anything the thing gets stock or returns an error message. It's always been that way and it's not going to change anytime soon. I love Apple computers, but for serious mail I need to use Gmail. iCloud is not safe.

And it's funny that Apple would like people to pay for that garbage.
 
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