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I don't need streaming, what if I'm in an area that doesn't have great 3G coverage or WiFi? Besides the bandwidth isn't worth streaming the music.
 
If you're so obsessed with a streaming cloud service download ZumoDrive or one of the dozen other similar apps from the App Store. The thing sucks compared to it's predecessor ZumoCast. With cast, my computer acts as the server and allows me to stream any music, video or file directly from it. Plus it allows transcoding, can't do that over the cloud. Best part? It's completely free.

I do that (using StreamToMe & AirVideo) which is great and I can also do video. Thus, I don't really have a need for a streaming service.

So I wasn't really thinking of myself so much. I was just thinking that it was very odd indeed that the music cloud did not include a streaming service, which I though was the entire point.

Tony
 
Remember it is also a backup service. Backing up all of your music purchases for free and ALL of your music for $25. Cheapest unlimited hard drive space for music.
 
Streaming would be a nice feature, but if I purchase a song, chances are I want to listen to it multiple times. Streaming a 256Kbps song on a crappy network would suck.

What I like about this, is when my wife or daughter buys a song, it will show up on my device (half-way around the world). Then, I can choose to download it now or not. To me, that is the real benefit.

Finally, as a backup solution this is awesome. Imagine if the house goes up in flames. All your music is safe and secure ready to be downloaded again. How many complaints have we all read where someone purchased a song, and had to jump through hoops to get Apple to let them re-download it. Now, as long as you have an Apple ID, your golden.

You can never please everyone, but I think this is the proper implementation.
 
Remember it is also a backup service. Backing up all of your music purchases for free and ALL of your music for $25. Cheapest unlimited hard drive space for music.

Yeah, if you put it that way, I guess it can be useful for that reason, since it is a hassle to continually back up my purchases. Probably worth $25.

And come to think of it, does this work across COMPUTERS - meaning can I sync a PC to a Mac, bypassing iOS devices? I didn't see that mentioned, but I could have missed it.

Tony
 
I kind of agree that I am very disappointed about this service. If any of you have used amazon's cloud you would know that you can stream or download the song. They make it your choice! I think amazon's cloud is a much better at this point. I really see no advantage to this service except saving space on your PC. Disappointed!
 
Heh no wonder :apple: was able to strike deals so quickly with the music company, some just a few weeks before this very event.
 
Yeah, if you put it that way, I guess it can be useful for that reason, since it is a hassle to continually back up my purchases. Probably worth $25.

And come to think of it, does this work across COMPUTERS - meaning can I sync a PC to a Mac, bypassing iOS devices? I didn't see that mentioned, but I could have missed it.

Tony

As long as your purchases were with iTunes, you won't need to pay $25 just for that since you can re-download purchased content, as well as download to 10 separate devices
 
As long as your purchases were with iTunes, you won't need to pay $25 just for that since you can re-download purchased content, as well as download to 10 separate devices

Thanks but I was talking about content that I ripped from a CD as well. Can you sync that with iTunes Match from computer to computer? If so, I wonder how that would work?

Tony
 
Huh - You wouldn't be able to download the song EITHER. So what's the advantage - you won;t be able to stream OR download? Why not just sync over iTunes at home then?

Tony

You don't necessarily have to download it in a dead zone. If you're driving and playing streaming music and go through a dead zone then the music would stop playing. If the phone downloaded the music earlier then it wouldn't cut off the song. The point of the downloading service is so that when you get a song on one device, it will instantly sync every other device.

Most of the time when someone is on their computer and buys a song on iTunes, they're on wifi. They will probably have their phone in the house somewhere connected to the wifi and it'll sync. It's much easier than syncing with a usb cord and you cant deny that.
 
iTunes Match is basically syncing your pirated music to iTunes. It's completely different. iTunes Match is a failure in my opinion.

I think this is the point once you have all the music uploaded and locked in then they have a way to do,

1 Market you better
2 Put everyone on a level playing filed and then scene your legal now with you MP3s they hope you stay that way witch makes them money. There not loosening money because you already have the music. I cant tell you how many CDs i have lost some place in the house like Sir Mix Alot baby s got back or possy on broad way but there on my phone so it makes it so i have them on all my devices and i really don't have to find that CD again.
3 Allows me to Keep my illegal MP3s witch are not many but i have a few that i just cant find anyplace from live consorts.
 
Thanks but I was talking about content that I ripped from a CD as well. Can you sync that with iTunes Match from computer to computer? If so, I wonder how that would work?

Tony

They said that iTunes will try and match it, if not then you can upload your copy, so that would be in the iCloud for your devices...
 
Why would Apple put all this music streaming in? People now have capped data plans, so it wouldn't benefit many people at all. It would just run through data more quickly. I still want my music locally on my device, and I finally won't have to worry about syncing all of my stuff on iTunes. I love this.
 
What the heck is the advantage of STREAMING music to a device with 8-64GB of storage? I would rather listen to the high quality version stored locally then stream a low quality one ALL THE WHILE using more of my limited battery life...
 
What the heck is the advantage of STREAMING music to a device with 8-64GB of storage? I would rather listen to the high quality version stored locally then stream a low quality one ALL THE WHILE using more of my limited battery life...

Because there are many people with libraries MUCH larger than the 32 GB iPhone max allows on the device, and have iPhones full to capacity and must manage that capacity continuously. It's just an option in case you want to listen to something not stored on your device but have no room left on your device to download.

Come to think of it, if you could actually delete the downloaded songs right on the device in order to make room for new songs, that might be useful.

Tony

Why would Apple put all this music streaming in? People now have capped data plans, so it wouldn't benefit many people at all. It would just run through data more quickly. I still want my music locally on my device, and I finally won't have to worry about syncing all of my stuff on iTunes. I love this.

Until your library exceeds your device's capacity, that is. And then you have to "manage" the auto downloads, which puts you in the same place.

Tony
 
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For a FREE service, you really can't complain. Servers are expensive, and if it was a streaming service, YOU would be paying for it. I rather not pay to listen to music which I have already paid for.

OH goodness get don't defend apple. Get off the apple stick! WHat about keeping up with competition APPLE? and the FACT that everything announced today is currently already being done on Android and WP7. A Google Music like service is where apple should have went.
 
They said that iTunes will try and match it, if not then you can upload your copy, so that would be in the iCloud for your devices...

I know that. What I'm asking is if you can download ripped music TO a computer via iTunes Match, or is it only to an iOS device.

Tony
 
Funny, I just went through a week of posts by people around here explaining why a music streaming service was a terrible idea.

So now it's really the opposite of that and that's bad too, apparently.

"I hate Apple pie."

"Hey, I made you a cherry one."

"But...I wanted Apple! Weren't you listening to me?"
 
Because there are many people with libraries MUCH larger than the 32 GB iPhone max allows on the device, and have iPhones full to capacity and must manage that capacity continuously. It's just an option in case you want to listen to something not stored on your device but have no room left on your device to download.

Come to think of it, if you could actually delete the downloaded songs right on the device in order to make room for new songs, that might be useful.

Tony

While it's great to have the option to listen to your entire library at any given time. Having 1000's hours of music on a device the last ~10 on a charge is pointless. I guarantee you that those people who walk around with ~32 GB of music have a lot with 0 play counts on them and a lot that will never be played. Take the time to put the music on it that you will actually listen to and you will find that space isn't an issue.

And if with this we have the ability to add and remove on the device from your cloud libraries on the go then there is even less of a need for battery eating streaming.
 
While it's great to have the option to listen to your entire library at any given time. Having 1000's hours of music on a device the last ~10 on a charge is pointless. I guarantee you that those people who walk around with ~32 GB of music have a lot with 0 play counts on them and a lot that will never be played. Take the time to put the music on it that you will actually listen to and you will find that space isn't an issue.

And if with this we have the ability to add and remove on the device from your cloud libraries on the go then there is even less of a need for battery eating streaming.

The first paragraph is that age old argument between those that don't KNOW what they want to listen to daily and those who think they do. If you think you do, that's great. I put on my device what I think I like to listen to, but in MANY cases I want something that's not there. So there is no right answer here.

As for your final paragraph, yes that would definitely help.

Tony
 
I have an android phone and I love the music streaming service that google has. Of course I have an "unlimited" Data cap. But for the most part I only use the Streaming when I am on Wifi. It is great to be able to listen to some of the music I don't normally listen to if I want to. Streaming is good for those who want it. I like it. I love having the option to stream.
 
What the heck is the advantage of STREAMING music to a device with 8-64GB of storage? I would rather listen to the high quality version stored locally then stream a low quality one ALL THE WHILE using more of my limited battery life...

what happens when your device is already full with apps, pictures and movies?
 
I really thought Apple would come with a service like we have here in Europe called Spotify..

You pay a monthly fee and you get access to all songs on their servers.. legal of course.. and the best part is.. playlists are available on your iphone/ipod in offline modus.. so stuff you REALLY like is on your iPhone..

Too bad they didn't..
 
The first paragraph is that age old argument between those that don't KNOW what they want to listen to daily and those who think they do. If you think you do, that's great. I put on my device what I think I like to listen to, but in MANY cases I want something that's not there. So there is no right answer here.

As for your final paragraph, yes that would definitely help.

Tony

Think they do know what they want to listen to? What are you really missing out on if a few songs that they thought about after your sync aren't on there. I have ten's of thousands of songs. I make playlists for the mood and I sync and go. I don't try to sync my entire library just the songs in the current playlist I have selected to sync. There have been times I've looked for a song for a friend to listen to that I that was synced but wasn't. I didn't feel the need to have to re-download it from itunes on the go. It wasn't that big a deal and I could have easily found it on say youtube if I really thought he needed to hear it (which would never happen because it is just a song, not like it's life or death).

The facts remain 99% of the people who try to sync huge libraries have a lot of songs on their devices they do not and will not listen to.

what happens when your device is already full with apps, pictures and movies?

Mobile devices have all ways been about a compromise between what you want and what you need. I want my entire music library on my device but I don't need it. Do you need all the pictures, movies, apps and music between you last sync and your next? This is a choice you have to make and sometimes you might get it wrong. But apps can already easily be re-downloaded if you REALLY need it and it's not on there and photos can already be easily stored online..
 
Think they do know what they want to listen to? What are you really missing out on if a few songs that they thought about after your sync aren't on there. I have ten's of thousands of songs. I make playlists for the mood and I sync and go. I don't try to sync my entire library just the songs in the current playlist I have selected to sync. There have been times I've looked for a song for a friend to listen to that I that was synced but wasn't. I didn't feel the need to have to re-download it from itunes on the go. It wasn't that big a deal and I could have easily found it on say youtube if I really thought he needed to hear it (which would never happen because it is just a song, not like it's life or death).

The facts remain 99% of the people who try to sync huge libraries have a lot of songs on their devices they do not and will not listen to.
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That's just YOUR opinion. Others like me feel differently.

Of course it's not life or death if I can't listen to a song that I want to hear but not on my device. But it's also not life or death if I can't listen to ANY song if you want to go even further with that idea. :)

I just want to be able listen to what I want to listen to when I want to listen to it - it's my PREFERENCE. If you think you can be more selective and don't care if you occasionally can't listen to things you might want to - that's YOUR preference, which is also fine. (And BTW - I mostly feel like listening to ALBUMS, not so much individual songs, as is the case for many of us).

Entertainly is never about "need", it's always about "want".

Tony
 
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