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iCloud - the biggest innovation you will never use
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OK, disclaimer first... I read an article on this about a month ago on this but I never had time to verify it.
I don't know if anyone cares, but the US govt has supposedly decided that cloud storage is similar in nature to email left on a server. After 180 days the govt doesn't need a warrant. I think they're trying to classify everything on the cloud as equally "relinquished" so they won't need a warrant even without waiting 180 days.
I don't have illegal music, but that thought bothers me.
I don't know if anyone cares, but the US govt has supposedly decided that cloud storage is similar in nature to email left on a server. After 180 days the govt doesn't need a warrant. I think they're trying to classify everything on the cloud as equally "relinquished" so they won't need a warrant even without waiting 180 days.
I don't have illegal music, but that thought bothers me.
i'm sure their forecasters have revised earnings projections already in the works
Wrong.
You don't have to do anything. It will just be part of the device.
You are missing the big picture. The combination and integration of all the things Apple announced today is monumental. You can't just pick at the individual parts, you have to look at the overall step forward you take on top of what already exists. It is a massive step forward and way ahead of what any other device is offering.
That is all they did huh.. I guess you are not the most perceptive guy in the room very often.
are you trying to tell me that you had to take extra steps for mobile me to sync your files, or e-mail, or contacts? outside of signing up it did all of that for you if you had an account, that was its whole selling point. and now they have made it free and you don't have to sign up, it is part of the system if you want to use it. it isn't innovative and it isn't new. it is a value add. there is a big difference.
and you can keep the psuedo insults and sarcasm to yourself.
and if you look at the end of my earlier post i specifically said as it relates to the cloud, i wasn't talking about the rest of the stuff they talked about today, like Lion and other parts of iOS. as far as iCloud goes they rebranded mobileme, and added a some features. all new things, but all value adds. not innovations.
the iOS UI when it was introduced was an innovation. multi-touch on a toucscreen was innovation. this is just a rebranding and you obviously are drinking the kool-aid
My first thought?
There goes the battery life:
Playing from the cloud. Sync'ing all the files each day.
Not that it's a bad thing. A device should be used, not kept for looks.
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Can the sync time can be set for only when it's plugged in?
There goes the battery life:
Playing from the cloud. Sync'ing all the files each day.
Not that it's a bad thing. A device should be used, not kept for looks.
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Can the sync time can be set for only when it's plugged in?
who told you its only what you bought from iTunes? It takes your own music (if you're paying as well)
if the music exists in iTunes, sure, its using their files, but if not, it uploads yours. Also, this service clearly isn't for you. It's not for audiophiles. If you care enough about how your music sounds, then you obviously won't enjoy this feature.
That means, however, it is something that YOU will never use, not "you" (implying all of us). Its a great feature for many
You clearly have not even read any of the information involved with these updates. Your ignorance is clear as day.
You are the one throwing the insults around... so please stop.
You really don't understand how this is different from mobileme? Really?
What we need to remember is that unless you have a song that is not on itunes for sale, then Apple will not be storing anything. remembering they have 18,000,000 songs and growing, for most people, they will not be providing much if any storage other than a few Database pointers.
Let's also remember that "music streaming" was a rumor that turns out to be not true. This is not music streaming, it's music sync between devices.
But let's not also forget that iCloud is also about things other than music. Photos (Limited storage), and sync for docs, along with email, calendar and contacts.
How great is it? Depends on who you are and what you are expecting.
This is NOT iTunes purchased only!!! The 25.00/year scans your WHOLE library and matches your physical CD music on other devices
Just be sure to tell the burglar to take all of your apple equip except your back-up drive.dave
Not a problem for those of us prepared. I have 2 TB in the imac that stores all our content, backing up to a 3 TB time machine drive, and I also have 2 more 2 TB drives that I have stored at work (in my highly secure office) that come home one at a time to do additional backups. So at any given time my data is on 4 hard drives in 2 locations. So I'm not too worried
As for iCloud I hope we can just turn it off and continue using the syncing the way we have been. Not perfect but allows us to share 1 itunes account and control what is purchased and installed on my daughters ipod.
Right....
I still can't head around what iCloud offers!
I have:
So..what can/will iCloud offer me and is it something that I should maybe not go for?
I cerainly don't want all of my music on my phone or iPad, so that leaves data.
Could iCould replace Dropbox for me (would I need/get a .me account)?
Cheers.
I still can't head around what iCloud offers!
I have:
- A Windows 7 PC, with my iTunes library on it in 328Kbps MP3.
- A 16Gb iPhone, with maybe 8 playlists on it (sync'd from my PC).
- A 64 gig iPad, with more playlists than my iPhone (due to having a bigger hard drive).
- A free Dropbox account that runs on all 3 of the above devices.
So..what can/will iCloud offer me and is it something that I should maybe not go for?
I cerainly don't want all of my music on my phone or iPad, so that leaves data.
Could iCould replace Dropbox for me (would I need/get a .me account)?
Cheers.
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i've read everything about the updates and i've watched the keynote, i just choose to look past the fluff and the marketing. and at the end of the day what we have is mobile storage with a few value adds and they gave it a fancy name called iCloud.
i find it amusing that you think i'm ignorant yet, all you keep saying is i miss a point but fail to actually give any evidence of it. there is no innovative technology here. at best you have innovative marketing but that is neither here no there, that is fluff.
why don't explain how it is different from mobile me instead of keep saying it is differrent. a nd on't give me t he itunes thing because i think i've been pretty clear in saying that is new. and outside of backing up an entire phone i don't see much difference here. you could already sync everything else.
and don't give me the you don't have to sign up thing either. it isn't that huge a deal to make the account your apple id. a sign up form or lack thereof is not an innovation. at best it is a value add for those who don't want to sign up for things.
apple created value adds in their cloud offering, it isn't innovation. they aren't all of a sudden changing how cloud computing works. that would have been an innovation. today was a product launch t o compete with Amazon and Google's cloud offerings and to try to get more customers
i love my iphone and ipad as much as the next guy, but lets be real guys, they wanted to launch their cloud offering that's all that it was when they talked about hte icloud.
OP, did you read anything more detailed than the AP story on this?
iTunes was one of about nine different apps that Steve talked about. If you're like me and have a Mac, iPhone and iPad, iCloud is mucho awesome. When Steve talked about the annoyance of taking a picture, syncing to the computer, but oh yeah i updated an app on the iPad, gotta sync that, but now I gotta resync the iPhone -- dammit!
With iCloud, photos, apps, documents and iTunes-bought music are all synced between your devices. If you buy books through the iBookstore, those are synced as well.
That's just what Apple is doing. Developers will do plenty with this. Some of them do something like this already, but it sounds like iCloud will make it more transparent and get done in the background.
iTunes was one of about nine different apps that Steve talked about. If you're like me and have a Mac, iPhone and iPad, iCloud is mucho awesome. When Steve talked about the annoyance of taking a picture, syncing to the computer, but oh yeah i updated an app on the iPad, gotta sync that, but now I gotta resync the iPhone -- dammit!
With iCloud, photos, apps, documents and iTunes-bought music are all synced between your devices. If you buy books through the iBookstore, those are synced as well.
That's just what Apple is doing. Developers will do plenty with this. Some of them do something like this already, but it sounds like iCloud will make it more transparent and get done in the background.
You really mean "limited access to data you already own at the discretion of a data connection." I'd rather have local storage that I can access whenever I want rather than being dependent on having a data connection to listen to music.
This is why i am so against itunes. Syncing all that. I like to move and put things where i want them.
Or you could use one service that does it all instead of managing 3 services and a separate device.