FYI, Apple doesn't care about your privacy. When you sign up on the iPhone upgrade program, their partner (Citizens One) gets access to your bank account, your home address, phone number, data on where you spend money, and many other personal details.
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iCloud Was Storing Deleted Safari Browser History for Months, but Apple Fixed the Issue
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FYI, Apple doesn't care about your privacy. When you sign up on the iPhone upgrade program, their partner (Citizens One) gets access to your bank account, your home address, phone number, data on where you spend money, and many other personal details.
I understand all that, I'm just saying that it's not simply based on using Safari, but more on using iCloud and having those particular settings, like in this case the setting for Safari, enabled.
Not actual access to your bank account, details of you account for transactional purposes.
You might be very surprised how much info is shared, read the apple T&Cs. See everyone buys the BS Tim says while ignoring the facts
Quite some time ago I noticed that Safari on iOS wasn't clearing my history when I was selecting "clear history and website data". To this day I still have to go to advanced > website data > remove all website data ...and I often have to repeat the "remove all website data" step multiple times before the data actually clears.
Hell yes, theres no more a hypocritical set of folk the world over, than on MR!!!!so someone is going to see all my youp()rn links?
BTW if google did this some of you guys would have an uproar but if it's apple - well whatevers right?!
opps.
Now Apple should know better, but i like the name...
You could just call these saving deleted Safari history on servers the work of "we need to store them just in case"
That's all you gotta say... and its amazing how often that phrase works on people.
Now Apple should know better, but i like the name...
You could just call these saving deleted Safari history on servers the work of "we need to store them just in case"
That's all you gotta say... and its amazing how often that phrase works on people.
i entered a terminal command some years ago to keep safari history *forever*. but unfortunately, it seems an update has returned that to 'normal'.
i think it's super useful for reserarch purposes, and i don't worry about privacy, cause if i need to hide any parts, i delete those manually.
i think it's super useful for reserarch purposes, and i don't worry about privacy, cause if i need to hide any parts, i delete those manually.
Unfortunately I don't think Little Snitch and Little Flocker can completely prevent this privacy leakage problem. Adding blacklists to /etc/hosts may be enough? On the other hand, privacy conscious individuals won't be using Safari anyway, and really privacy conscious individuals won't be using Apple products.
Next up, your fingerprints actually do leave the device and oops we stored them on our servers
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Why is any of this such a big deal to people? Who cares if someone tries to sell you something, you can just choose not to buy. The danger is them handing over info to governments who make up crimes on whim and actually lock people in cages.
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Why is any of this such a big deal to people? Who cares if someone tries to sell you something, you can just choose not to buy. The danger is them handing over info to governments who make up crimes on whim and actually lock people in cages.
Just as an FYI to those on the iPhone Upgrade program... https://www.citizensone.com/assets/resources/pdf/CitOne_Retail_Privacy_Notice.pdf
No one is fear mongering. People are just pointing out the amount of information that is actually shared.
I'm going to giggle. You said they don't have any useful information to collect and then listed that they collect the ss, address, name, and payment info. You and I have extremely different definitions of useful.
See, this is how conversations go off the rails. You started by questioning the bank account info sharing. When both @MH01 and I pointed out that the account details are shared, you moved to a defense of fear mongering. When it was pointed out that no one was actually fear mongering, you move to an inaccurate analogy of a doctor's office. A doctor's office, really? HIPAA laws govern a doctors office. More importantly, this isn't about you sharing your information, it's about a company sharing your information with another company. Your follow up questions regarding the doctor's office are immaterial and irrelevant. Bluntly, if you're looking for fear mongering, look no further than your follow up question since the only person to bring up profiting and tracking is you.
Point is, Apple prides itself on NOT storing user data. And they were caught doing so. Plain and simple.
The thread is about iCloud, not retail purchase/finance agreements.
Apple's privacy policy covers data Apple collects and stores in its systems. The information you provide when setting up a credit agreement goes to the bank, not Apple.
If you setup financing for an Apple product purchase through CitizensOne (iPhone Upgrade Plan) or Barclaycard (finance of other Apple Store/Apple.com purchases), the information-gathering goes through the bank's servers, not Apple's. The Terms and Conditions you agree to (without reading) are the bank's, not Apple's. You're not giving Apple permission to give your Apple data to CitizensOne or Barclays. You're giving the bank enough info to verify your creditworthiness.
Completely incorrect. Chrome sync and its protocols are open source.
https://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/sync/
https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sync
Apple's sync code is closed source.
Encrypted sparsebundle on Dropbox is pretty secure if you're not wanted by NSA or something.
Any method of "encryption" where you don't own the key (google sync, whatever else sync) is not secure by design.
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Not Chrome, Chromium.
Chrome is closed source. Google server infrastructure is closed source.
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Am I missing something – what law exactly covered PRISM-level surveillance?
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True, the thread is about iCloud. However, this particular conversation was about data sharing.
I'm going to disagree about this though... http://www.apple.com/legal/sales-support/iphoneupgrade_us/
"By enrolling in the iPhone Upgrade Program, you understand and agree that Apple, its subsidiaries and agents, the Bank, and Trade-In Service Provider may collect, process, transmit, maintain, share, and use certain of your personal information, such as your name, mailing address, email address, and information related to your loan and loan status, in order to perform the service and support obligations under your iPhone Upgrade Program. You may receive periodic iPhone Upgrade Program-related texts, emails, or other communications from Apple, such as notices regarding expiration of your account, upgrade eligibility, and changes to the iPhone Upgrade Program Terms & Conditions. You may also receive requests to participate in surveys related to the iPhone Upgrade Program."
Again, the information is shared. Nothing wrong with it, nothing nefarious about it. But it's shared. Which was the point of that particular conversation.
What my doctors office got to do with an iPhone upgrade ? Relevance much ? I like green apples .
Then keep your history forever. I regularly delete my history and cookies because I have no idea what the cookies these companies install when I visit their sites actually track (I'm sure it varies). When I visit one site and then go shopping or banking (or whatever) on another site, I don't want their cookies tracking any of that data. It's none of their business.