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bmac89

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Then keep your history forever. I regularly delete my history and cookies because I have no idea what the cookies these companies install when I visit their sites actually track (I'm sure it varies). When I visit one site and then go shopping or banking (or whatever) on another site, I don't want their cookies tracking any of that data. It's none of their business.

I regularly delete cookies and website data but keep my history.
 

mi7chy

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Oct 24, 2014
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Oops, really honest mistake with the data collection. Commendable that Apple fix it quick when it's discovered. ;)
 
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sudo1996

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Completely incorrect. Chrome sync and its protocols are open source.
https://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/sync/
https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sync

Apple's sync code is closed source.
I don't know if that's the source code Chrome's sync is built from. Either way, it still doesn't make the feature secure. You need to make sure none of the closed-sourced parts of Chrome can take that key. It is suspicious that Chrome is closed while Chromium is open. And I trust Safari even less in this regard just because it has a history of being less secure, so hackers rather than Apple are an issue.

By the way, every major messaging service that claims to be end-to-end encrypted is not to be trusted, even if the client is open-source. Besides the client being trusted, you have to exchange public keys manually with others, and none of the big services meet that criteria. But this isn't the issue with Google's sync; the issue is just that you can't trust the client.
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Then keep your history forever. I regularly delete my history and cookies because I have no idea what the cookies these companies install when I visit their sites actually track (I'm sure it varies). When I visit one site and then go shopping or banking (or whatever) on another site, I don't want their cookies tracking any of that data. It's none of their business.
It's mostly only an issue if you aren't using ad blockers. I have two. And to those who complain about people blocking ads, I wouldn't mind ads if they weren't such a common vector for attacks. It's really problematic how many various external resources a webpage loads nowadays.
 
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hamilto

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Valuable information that Apple can profit greatly from was not deleted? It's about your privacy, ensuring the best in service to you, the valued customer.
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Oops, really honest mistake with the data collection. Commendable that Apple fix it quick when it's discovered. ;)
Honest my ass
 

MacBH928

macrumors G3
May 17, 2008
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Encrypted sparsebundle on Dropbox is pretty secure if you're not wanted by NSA or something.

Any method of "encryption" where you don't own the key (google sync, whatever else sync) is not secure by design.
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Dropbox snoops in your files, and probably shares that info with data miners, ad agencies, scientific studies, and the governments.

I have no problem with the governments collecting info on criminals to hunt them down, I have a problem that they collect info on everybody and build these databases of info on them with no reason. There are people in the governments who read your diaries, e-mails, and look at your family pictures and that bothers me. Businesses have no problems sharing this info with government officials... its the government after all!

Imagine you meet someone who works in the governments and he knows that color of the underwear you ordered for your wife from Amazon 3 years ago.
 

2128506

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Dec 28, 2013
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Dropbox snoops in your files, and probably shares that info with data miners, ad agencies, scientific studies, and the governments.

Which part of "encrypted sparsebundle" didn't you understand? :)

Govt collecting data is another step towards police/totalitarian state, i really don't get it why people are not considering this an issue.
 

Bacillus

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"We didn't violate labor legislation as your phone is produced somewhere else, we didn't harm the environment seizing scarce minerals because we have solar farms, we don't owe corporate taxes because we evaded it, and we didn't read your data that we should have deleted, but sold it to our partner company.
Yes, we are the most diverse company when it comes to evading responsibility"
 
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mmomega

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Dec 30, 2009
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Then keep your history forever. I regularly delete my history and cookies because I have no idea what the cookies these companies install when I visit their sites actually track (I'm sure it varies). When I visit one site and then go shopping or banking (or whatever) on another site, I don't want their cookies tracking any of that data. It's none of their business.
I am not saying any of this. Which is confusing.
I am stating that my personal web history in storage somewhere is not something I am concerned about.

The beauty here is you saying what concerns you and I say what concerns me and they don't have to be the same and we're both doing fine.

I do agree with you on advertisements, popups, the ugly space the ads take up on website. Look into running ad blocking software on your router. I did this a while ago and while it doesn't always completely stop everything it does a good job of cutting down the vast majority of ads across any device on the network without the individual device needing ad blocking software.
 

CE3

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Nov 26, 2014
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I am not saying any of this. Which is confusing.
I am stating that my personal web history in storage somewhere is not something I am concerned about.

The beauty here is you saying what concerns you and I say what concerns me and they don't have to be the same and we're both doing fine.

I do agree with you on advertisements, popups, the ugly space the ads take up on website. Look into running ad blocking software on your router. I did this a while ago and while it doesn't always completely stop everything it does a good job of cutting down the vast majority of ads across any device on the network without the individual device needing ad blocking software.

Yes, I do use ad blocking and VPN services.

Glad I don't use iCloud!

I think iCloud is useful for syncing some applications, but I see no reason to store my Safari history in a cloud server (especially after this news). If I need to go from one device to another, I just message or email myself the link.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
"We didn't violate labor legislation as your phone is produced somewhere else, we didn't harm the environment seizing scarce minerals because we have solar farms, we don't owe corporate taxes because we evaded it, and we didn't read your data that we should have deleted, but sold it to our partner company.
Yes, we are the most diverse company when it comes to evading responsibility"
Tax avoidance is not tax evasion, which is illegal. Nice hyperbole overall, though.
 

moonjelly

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Aug 18, 2016
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Next up, your fingerprints actually do leave the device and oops we stored them on our servers
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Why is any of this such a big deal to people? Who cares if someone tries to sell you something, you can just choose not to buy. The danger is them handing over info to governments who make up crimes on whim and actually lock people in cages.
The linked article answered this question....
 
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