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I think the new M1 MacBook Air at $800 (actually $799) educational stands a real chance at turning this around. The vast majority of Chromebooks I've used are hands-down pieces of absolute junk, because that's what you get when you buy a budget chromebook. There are some nicer ones, but of course they cost more, and then where is the value to the education market when compared to (for example) the $800 M1 MacBook Air? Here is a typical $400 Chromebook, which is as cheap as you want to go; I've used a number of the cheaper ones and you might as well just take your $$$ out back, throw it in a barrel, pour lighter fluid on it and roast your hot-dogs: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Chromebook-i3-10110U-Integrated-82B80006UX/dp/B086383HC7/ref=sr_1_24?crid=1OQ1RL2YHOEXU&dchild=1&keywords=chromebook&qid=1613601314&s=pc&sprefix=chromebook,aps,183&sr=1-24

By many metrics that's not even close to half the computer that the M1 MacBook Air is, and I bet the lifespan doesn't end up being half either, making it more expensive in the long-run.

Although, if the MacOS continues to degenerate maybe this will be a moot-point eventually, Big Sur is GUI disaster and our kids are having a TERRIBLE time with our 22 new M1 MacBook Airs. The tiny black and white icons in Pages alone, for example, are driving them nuts, and I had to go to every one of them and turn the "reduced transparency" function on because the menu-bar transparency was reducing legibility enough for some students that it was causing issues due to certain desktop pic/color combos.

That said, I do hope Apple eventually enters the market with a touch-screen Mac at an even lower price point than $799 for education at some point.
You are missing the shift in computer paradigm where everything migrates to Internet. Chromebook captures this paradigm, Macs - not so much.
 
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Embarrassing. Haven't people heard about the M1?
Yeah. I am sure tons of schools are going to run right out now and buy $1,000 notebooks for children of all ages to take home with them. That'll go over just swell.

Chromebooks are just a far better option for home learning, and I estimate we'll see more strong sales for them dotted throughout 2021 as well.
 
I work in IT for a school system. I am a diehard Apple user. I challenged myself and used only a Chromebook for two weeks. Discounting these devices is a huge mistake on Apple's part. It became very clear to me that I was able to do everything I needed to do on that Chromebook because everything is web-based now. Yes, we have Chromebooks in almost every student's hands now. Google has made an incredible ecosystem around Chrome. You may not like Google, but they have done a good job here and the OS keeps getting better. Chrome OS has a much better chance of overthrowing Windows as the market leader than macOS. Apple should have placed a greater focus on Safari and getting developers to write extensions for it. I know they are making efforts in that direction now, but it may be too little too late. If Apple developed at "Safari Book" that could run iOS apps the way Chromebooks can run Android apps (and put together a functional enterprise setup) they could annihilate Google. That is of course if they were willing to compete on price.
Get the young hooked on the Google drug early and Google will have many years to track and build a large profile, which in turn means a lot of money for Google. I don't like them at all but, they are very cunning.
 
Chromebooks will work fine for about 98% of people who buy a laptop. Factor in most Chromebooks cost less than half the entry level Macbook, this makes total sense.
I really disagree with this. 98%? I think way more than 2% of people want more from their laptop than what a Chromebook can offer.
 
I really disagree with this. 98%? I think way more than 2% of people want more from their laptop than what a Chromebook can offer.
Maybe not 98% but I would say 90% easily. I look through college campuses and nearly all sorority girls have MacBooks for no reason. They are just surfing the web and writing word documents. There is absolutely no reason to spend $1k on that. Before I could see it because Windows machines were slow to boot and had worse battery life. But Chromebooks have proven that you don't need to upcharge machines due to booting up fast and having good battery life.

Just randomly looked at this Chromebook. For $400 why would you not buy this if you were a sorority chick in school? Literally throwing away money buying a MacBook for over 2x the price.
 
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Maybe not 98% but I would say 90% easily. I look through college campuses and nearly all sorority girls have MacBooks for no reason. They are just surfing the web and writing word documents. There is absolutely no reason to spend $1k on that. Before I could see it because Windows machines were slow to boot and had worse battery life. But Chromebooks have proven that you don't need to upcharge machines due to booting up fast and having good battery life.

Just randomly looked at this Chromebook. For $400 why would you not buy this if you were a sorority chick in school? Literally throwing away money buying a MacBook for over 2x the price.
Dunno if you’ve used these before, but they aren’t the most well-built. They also cannot run a lot of software needed in many professions or in universities. They have little to no storage. They are slow. They wear out quickly.

Perhaps you aren’t aware, but women in universities these days, yes even those in sororities, major in fields such as engineering, computer science, mathematics, physics, etc. These highly intelligent women often require a lot more of their computer than what a chromebook can offer.
 
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Hardly surprising given what iPadPro can do these day, it has taken macOS users across to iPadOS, especially amongst home users.
 
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Dunno if you’ve used these before, but they aren’t the most well-built. They also cannot run a lot of software needed in many professions or in universities. They have little to no storage. They are slow. They wear out quickly.

Perhaps you aren’t aware, but women in universities these days, yes even those in sororities, major in fields such as engineering, computer science, mathematics, physics, etc. These highly intelligent women often require a lot more of their computer than what a chromebook can offer.
I've never used those I just picked one at random, but I am fairly confident that Chromebooks that are half the price of a MacBook are sufficiently powerful & well-built.

And you are clearly missing the point here. There is a significant chunk of Mac users that can do everything that they want to do on a Chromebook at half the price, whether its' 98% or 94.2341234231435% does not matter.
 
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MacBook should be back, this has been a missing opportunity.
I thought moving to ARM would lower Macs prices but I guess not.
 
I've never used those I just picked one at random, but I am fairly confident that Chromebooks that are half the price of a MacBook are sufficiently powerful & well-built.

And you are clearly missing the point here. There is a significant chunk of Mac users that can do everything that they want to do on a Chromebook at half the price, whether its' 98% or 94.2341234231435% does not matter.
I wouldn’t be fairly confident of how powerful and/or well-built something is if I’d never used it. I’ve worked with sub-$500 machines like this. They are only good for a couple years at which point some components start to wear out and/or the barely-capable specs can no longer keep up with the demands of the modern web apps after 2-3 years. Meanwhile, people with 10-year-old MacBooks are still getting use out of them.

That extra money up-front is truly worth it.
 
I wouldn’t be fairly confident of how powerful and/or well-built something is if I’d never used it. I’ve worked with sub-$500 machines like this. They are only good for a couple years at which point some components start to wear out and/or the barely-capable specs can no longer keep up with the demands of the modern web apps after 2-3 years. Meanwhile, people with 10-year-old MacBooks are still getting use out of them.

That extra money up-front is truly worth it.
Chromebooks are designed for longevity by being a web browser. It will still boot just as fast in 4 years as it does now. I know people who still use 5 year old chrome books. ChromeOS is the iOS of computers. They do not need a lot of resources to run smoothly.
 
Chromebooks are designed for longevity by being a web browser. It will still boot just as fast in 4 years as it does now. I know people who still use 5 year old chrome books. ChromeOS is the iOS of computers. They do not need a lot of resources to run smoothly.
They aren’t built for longevity. You can tell that just by picking one up. Hey, I don’t mind if people want to use these, or if young kids use them for school. But I think a lot of people want a powerful computer, built to last, at a reasonable price. A MacBook Air M1 for $1000 is a much better deal than a cheap Chromebook when factoring in longevity, power, and reliability.
 
Not gonna lie; I’ve been very interested in Chrome OS lately. Mac IS is just so damn finicky, especially with external monitors.
 
I wonder how the whole picture will be if they count iPadOS as well😏
 
As someone who is partially colourblind like 10% of the male population, can I suggest sacking whoever put that graph together, or at least smacking them over the head with a soft cushion and never letting them near graphics software again. I can intimate which line is Chrome OS and Windows from their position on the graph but I certainly can't by colour... "Let's colour Windows blue, and what colour shall we pick for Chrome OS?... why yes, also blue." I am presuming one of those colours isn't blue?
 
My school district has an influx of chromebooks for all the kids to use. I am wondering if this blip is due to the fact.
 
... and, Rupert Maggot's Fox Spews makes more money than The Economist.

Different markets, and they're worth what you pay for them, especially if you're a tax payer footing school 'IT' giveaways to make sure your retirement will be supported by the new generations of trained whatevers.
 
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