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Microsoft should work on perfecting windows before starting a mobile OS

How long have you used Windows 7? Is it giving you a lot of problems? I have read nothing but good things about it. Please share.

Windows 7 kicks ass, it's every bit as good as Snow Leopard if not better.

Windows 7 is an excellent product. VS Snow Leopard, personal preference. They are both excellent.

When Windows starts to come close to SL in terms of ease of use and functionality let me know ;)

Both are quite easy to use.



Sorry I'm late, Windows 7 launched October 22, 2009. And its been awesome since.

Quite true.

I use both.... and all I can say is "CUT and paste". Windows has had it for years, OS X SL doesn't. Same with window snap.

I love OS X, but, like with a lot of Apple products, its the "little things" that matter...

Both are great operating systems, and I will continue to use both since I cannot run Visual Studio on Mac, or XCode on Windows... :)

You should know by now that the fanboys will dismiss any feature Apple doesn't include as stupid or unnecessary.


SL has cut and paste. CMD+X, CMD+V

Finder does not support Cut and Paste for files, and is unlikely to do so. Its a philosophical difference, and to bring that up as an example of Win7 superiority is silly, at best. Apple could easily implement it, but they choose not to. Its another one of those "One button Mouse" deals, where Apple is being obstinate.

Windows 7 is a much better OS than its predecessors, but to claim it does the "little things" better than SL is so hilarious I don't know how to respond. There is literally no consistency between anything. Just go to the Control Panel, and while clicking dialogs you will be transported between windows that look like they are modern Web Pages (especially the network panels, with blinking computers) and panels that looked like they haven't realized that Windows 95 is obsolete yet.

Windows 7 is a UI and usability nightmare (compared to SL, although much better than Vista). What I do give credit to MS for is that its security model is rock solid (probably better than Linux and most Unixes). Mac OS X has fallen behind in security. This, however, is not that big an issue anymore, IMO, because all OS security is complex enough that attackers are relying on OS vulnerabilities less, and Social Engineering more to gain access. Again, Windows's bad (and more important in this context, horribly inconsistent over the years) UI has made its users more vulnerable to such attacks.


Why get all butt hurt because Windows is a good product and has it's advantages just like OSX? You're free to chose which is best for you.

Really!! I cant wait to get rid of my ***** Windows Phone!!

What are you waiting for? Get rid of it.

Exactly. Apple needs to implement both of those features. They are not dealbreakers, but the make the experience more complete.

I use Hyperdock to enable the "window snap"... great app. And another app to allow files to be copy-pasted... can't remember the name of it though... available in Mac App Store.

You don't get it. If Apple doesn't include it it, then you don't need it. :D

yes profit is so, so important for us consumers.

:rolleyes:


LMAO!! Only Apple consumers are more concerned about profits than themselves. I wonder if they feel the same about their power and phone companies?
 
Wow, I didnt even realize they took CUT away

They didn't, you're being trolled when someone says you can't cut text.

Files, in Finder, that's another thing, and quite annoying. This is the only place that the comments about Mac OS X lacking cut functionality have any relevance.
 
Chya-right...

"IDC Projects Windows Phone to Top iPhone in Market Share by 2015"

ROFLMFAO...hahahahahahahahaha....wait....wait.....hahahahahahahaha

And donkey's might fly out of my butt. To say that MS would overtake anything in the smartphone market at this point is utterly ludicrous. I want some of what that IDC person is smoking!
 
using the keyboard, how quaint

Far faster than using the mouse. Mac OS X is very good at providing keyboard shortcuts, far better than Windows, although that may have changed with Windows 7.

I don't even get the point of your snarky comment. You know damn well that the functions are also available via the menus and right mouse button too.
 
Low!

Why do you guys keep posting your crappy Market Share records they're not even close to the other leading OS's
Are you guys morons or just smoking crack? :mad::confused:
 
IF Apple is really serious about dominating the market, BOGO will easily push their market share up a few points.

But something tells me they don't really care.
 
Let's ask yourself this.. they are saying that approx 1 in every 17 people now have a Windows based phone?? Do you know ANYONE that does?? Cause I know hundreds of people who have smartphones and not one of them has a Windows based phone.. major statistical failure!
 
just like the iPhone would never sell?

I can clearly remember watching ballmer laugh at the iPhone pre-launch, even at that time it was ridiculous. But now that reality is being rubbed in his face its even funnier.

Predictions mean nothing, all these companys seem to think saying something makes it so. You notice apple NEVER says something like "by 2010, everyone will want an iPhone" ...because apple is busy making it actually happen.
 
Regarding that news about Nokia not shipping Symbian in 2012, that means feature phones (80US$) will also be loaded with WP?

Either way, Nokia is now the enemy. I used to love Nokia, so sad
 
Exactly. You should be able to CUT a file and move it. I bought an app in the Mac App Store that does just that...

Should be built in.

That other thing that sucks in the folder view. I want folders first in A to Z, then files A to Z like in Windows... Not a default option....

So in other words it is a very minor missing feature, easily eclipsed by dozens of important features that are only found on a Mac.
 
Here were their illuminating predictions in Jan 2010. :rolleyes:

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS22176610

Key findings from a new IDC market outlook include the following:

Symbian will retain its leadership position worldwide throughout the forecast period. Due primarily to the strength of Nokia in markets outside of the United States, Symbian continues to lead all other mobile operating systems.

Places where Noika sells a lot of phones are more likely to stay away from Microsoft. So, I see Noika sales sinking faster then they are...and Apple and Google marketshare growing faster....
 
Have I just done the impossible? :D

I think he was referring to the older versions of Office that had weird MDI interfaces for Word and Excel, so that it only displayed one document at a time, unless you explicitly forced two separate instances of the application to run at the same time.
 
Let's ask yourself this.. they are saying that approx 1 in every 17 people now have a Windows based phone?? Do you know ANYONE that does?? Cause I know hundreds of people who have smartphones and not one of them has a Windows based phone.. major statistical failure!

They must be counting the old Windows Mobile 6.x devices too - a very shaky thing to count as definite wins for WP7 in the future. A lot of those old WP6 devices are corporate, and we all know that corporate phones are moving towards the iPhone or BlackBerry.
 
What I don't get is....

Nokia = looser in smart phone market.
Microsoft = looser in smart phone OS market.

So... Looser + Looser = Winner?

I know Nokia has a huge installed base of feature phones, but they're going to have to really step it up to catch up in the smart phone market. Even the old #1 guys (RIM) can't keep up with iOS and Android.

No. Looser and looser = extra extra baggy! :D
 
I think he was referring to the older versions of Office that had weird MDI interfaces for Word and Excel, so that it only displayed one document at a time, unless you explicitly forced two separate instances of the application to run at the same time.

That is exactly what I was referring to.
 
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