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If 13"'is updated but keeps C2D...
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yeah but C2D is still in production. Apple could've already ordered 20 quintillion chips and just plan on using them in their 13" machines for the next 20 years if they wanted to
yeah but C2D is still in production. Apple could've already ordered 20 quintillion chips and just plan on using them in their 13" machines for the next 20 years if they wanted to
Sad, but true.
yeah but C2D is still in production. Apple could've already ordered 20 quintillion chips and just plan on using them in their 13" machines for the next 20 years if they wanted to
Bummer. If they got that many, by the time they dump all of them we would be at the 100 core Pentium 69 on DDR22 RAM and exobyte hard drives.
It doesn't, the poster is grossly misinformed or talking out of his buttocks.
Ram and HD are user replaceable part and you even get the instructions on how to do it in your user's manual. The Magnuson-Moss warranty act covers the rest.
Quit spreading misinformation.
My wish list:
i5 Processor
Hi Res option
HDMI OUT!!
offer 7200 RPM HDs, would be nice...
thats about it tbh. I reckon it's pretty realistic.
i5 Processor
Hi Res option
HDMI OUT!!
offer 7200 RPM HDs, would be nice...
thats about it tbh. I reckon it's pretty realistic.
If the higher resolution doesn't happen, it'll have to have been an intentional move on Apple's part as the technology clearly exists if they're using it on the 13" MacBook Air. But you also bring up another good point, why don't they offer an anti-glare on the 13" MacBook Pro? Unless they don't see it as a serious machine, in which case, why did they ever give it the "Pro" branding?
I'm skeptical of the i5 part, but everything else should be doable. They might be too cramped on room for the HDMI port, but a MiniDisplay Port to HDMI adapter should've been made by them two years ago, and there's nothing impossible about that.
What are the main differences between C2D and some of the potentials like i3, i5, and i7?
I know that C2D is getting outdated, but is it really THAT much slower/less reliable/etc than the others?
I know that C2D is getting outdated, but is it really THAT much slower/less reliable/etc than the others?
I'm not sure how it stacks up to the Sandy Bridge versions of the i processors, but I can say that the Core 2 Duo is more or less on par with the i3 for most things. Better for some, worse for others, only by marginal amounts. Though I'd imagine that even with Sandy Bridge, we're not talking about performance that makes a critical difference to anyone who isn't needing that kind of speed professionally.
Apple has never put two video outputs on a Mac laptop. Standard HDMI would limit the output resolution to 1920x1200, which would not drive the 27" Cinema Display at its native resolution. Therefore it's not going to happen.
7200 RPM HDs? Most users would opt for SSD or wouldn't know the difference.
I like the other two on your wish list
but I want 1440x900 to be standard, not an option.
I like the other two on your wish list
I'm quite sure it will be standard for the 13". And frankly, I hope there will be a 1680x1050 option for it as well.
Apple has never put two video outputs on a Mac laptop. Standard HDMI would limit the output resolution to 1920x1200, which would not drive the 27" Cinema Display at its native resolution. Therefore it's not going to happen.
7200 RPM HDs? Most users would opt for SSD or wouldn't know the difference.
I like the other two on your wish list
They actually did it with every 15" and 17" PowerBook G4. And realistically, they don't need an HDMI port to be the port to drive the ACD as that's what the MiniDisplay Port is for. Though, it's a moot point as it is doubtful that they'd ever have enough space for it.
Having 1440x900 being standard on whatever forthcoming 13" non-Air Mac laptops, I'd say, is a pretty safe bet given the display on the current 13" MacBook Air. 1680x1050, on the otherhand, isn't only unlikely, it's borderline overkill for a panel that small.
You assume a lot calling it ridiculous.
First, I rarely sell my old notebooks. I do sometimes give them away once I have no more use for them, but I never said anything about selling my 2010 machines.
Second, I have a family of three (myself, wife, son). I generally only buy one new 13" MacBook Pro per year for us, going to who ever needs it most. This is so they don't all become dated at the same time. I also allows us to keep up with the latest tech by buying a new one every year. And, it also avoids the possibility of being stuck with two or three duds all made in the same year.
The 11" Air was an exception as it is a new product, but I have found it so useful that it is likely that going forward we will buy one of those per year as well.
Well, that was before you clarified that you do a trickle-down effect with Mac laptops. What you're talking about here makes perfect sense.
Although, as an almost complete aside, my housemate and I did the math and if you buy any Apple laptop, and sell it each new refresh for a new one, you'd only lose about $100-200, which means that after four years, you'd only have spent $800 to get to the newest one instead of $1200-2400. Just thought I'd share that it's not as ridiculous as I initially thought.
Even cycling between three, that assumes that you're replacing each person's MacBook Pro every three years, which is still more often than most people need new computers. It's not like you are THAT much behind when your computer is four years old. Five, sure. Six, definitely.
The 11" Air was an exception as it is a new product, but I have found it so useful that it is likely that going forward we will buy one of those per year as well.[/QUOTE]
Even then, while the idea of each person getting a 13" Pro and an 11" Air is rad, that's still a lot of money to be spending that often. I mean, if you have it, then more power to you. Though, that's definitely a luxury.
It's not even close to overkill as long as it's a non-retina display (at normal viewing distance, that is).
Well, that was before you clarified that you do a trickle-down effect with Mac laptops. What you're talking about here makes perfect sense.
Although, as an almost complete aside, my housemate and I did the math and if you buy any Apple laptop, and sell it each new refresh for a new one, you'd only lose about $100-200, which means that after four years, you'd only have spent $800 to get to the newest one instead of $1200-2400. Just thought I'd share that it's not as ridiculous as I initially thought.
Even cycling between three, that assumes that you're replacing each person's MacBook Pro every three years, which is still more often than most people need new computers. It's not like you are THAT much behind when your computer is four years old. Five, sure. Six, definitely.
Even then, while the idea of each person getting a 13" Pro and an 11" Air is rad, that's still a lot of money to be spending that often. I mean, if you have it, then more power to you. Though, that's definitely a luxury.
We are ok, financially speaking. Not millionaires or anything. That said, Macs are something I don't mind spending money on. We are pretty conservative on home and auto purchases, definitely living beneath our means. No interest in fancy stuff or keeping up with the Joneses. But in the case of our computers, we stare at them all day and sometimes all night, too. I use my machines for work, grad school, scientific computing, and running a microbusiness. My wife uses hers for grad school and GIS mapping. We homeschool our son so he does a lot of work with his, plus he has decided to fool around with programming lately (and plays Warcraft and Starcraft quite a bit, too).
I don't generally buy 15" or 17" MacBook Pros as I prefer portability in a notebook, not an expensive desktop replacement. That said, if the right 15" came along I would consider it now that I take the 11" Air with me when I leave the house. Currently, I use a Mac Pro for heavy lifting, and iMacs for general homebased computing. So as I said in the original post, I don't see us adding any new Macs this year if there are no compelling updates.
The 13" MBP route was the one I had planned on being while I saved up for it during the past nine months. I knew that by the time I had the money for the one I wanted with all of the customizations I wanted on it, it'd be time for the refresh. Then I started hearing about Sandy Bridge's IGP and the notion that unless something radical happened to the 13" Pro, it'd either have Sandy Bridge and its inferior IGP or maintain Core 2 Duo and the 320M, at which point I gave up on it and am now saving for the bottom of the line 15" where I won't have either problem.
Really? The icons, letters and home-screen didn't get smaller on my iPhone 4 even though it has far higher resolution than the 3GS has.
But at the moment at least OSX is not resolution independent. Right now, an OSX machine with a higher DPI screen will have physically smaller text and controls.
Yes - right now it will...
Actually, I think that resolution independence has been a part of the system since Leopard, you can mess with it via the console, the issue is getting all of the app developers to comply with it. On iOS it's easy, you support the original resolution, and you support double that. On desktop computers, DPI tends to vary a lot more.
Doing a perfect doubling was a very smart move on Apple's part for the iPhone, and it's why they won't increase the iPad's resolution until they can do the same. Kinda hard to do that on the Macs since they all have varying DPIs already.
I am definitely interested in seeing how the next MacBook Pro update pans out. As I mentioned before, if it plays out with the 13" Pro (along with the white MacBook, the Mac mini, and possibly the 2011 Airs) being stuck with Sandy Bridge's IGP, then at least the situation will be short term. Ivy Bridge should be better in 2012 (IGP should support DirectX 11 and some other whistles), and Haswell should be much better in 2013 (FMA and fancy on-package vector coprocessors). So there is hope for the 13" Pro (and the other Macs with similar innards) down the road even if the short term solution ends up rather iffy.