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The thread title and the original article are very badly written. They suggest that Jony Ive and his company designed this entire record deck. They did not, if anyone bothers to read the actual source article, you'll see that the only parts they're involved with are the hinge and the switch. Nothing else whatsoever.


The LP-12 is one of the best turntables available in the world, it's been right at the top for many years and is worth every penny (talking about their standard models, not specifically this one). It's clear that the majority of posts in this thread already are being made by people who have never heard of Linn.


This is a prime example, there may be turntables that look like this and cost $200 but they don't sound anything like a Linn.

This limited edition is somewhat more expensive than the normal version.

I'm not sure that Jony designing the hinges and speed switch will make any actual difference to the sound quality though.
I disagree.
I remember years ago walking into an audiophile hi fi shop and asking the guy for a graphic equaliser. The guy looked at me like I was dirt and told me that if I use an EQ, I wouldn't hear the source as the composer intended.
As I'd be listening to it I'm my house/car/garden it would NEVER be as the composer intended anyway.
Also remember him doing nothing but make excuses when I asked him to tell the difference between a regular set of phono leads from Tandy, (probably £9.99), and a set he had from a leading brand, circa £200.
I'd issue that kind of challenge to any 'audiophile"

Music is incredibly subjective.
I'd take a Mitchell Gyrodec over that thing any day of the week.
 
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These Ive "collaborations" probably take less of his time than it takes to write the press release for them.

I always found this one funny (Uhhhh, make a red one):

 
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This is non-news. There are numerous custom plinths and parts for the LP12 already available, most of which focus on sound quality Vs esthetics.

As a long time LP12 enthusiast owning up to their Klimax level, I sense the company is shifting towards marketing over engineering, form over function ever since Gilad hands over his operation to the next generation. This latest Apple marketing trick more evidence toward that direction.

I still keep a vintage "project" LP12 for tinkering, otherwise my future is with SME.
 
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The problem with this article was the headline. WHY would Apple design and make a turntable? No reason too. They already are entrenched in the music industry selling digital music.
 
I disagree.
I remember years ago walking into an audiophile hi fi shop and asking the guy for a graphic equaliser. The guy looked at me like I was dirt and told me that if I use an EQ, I wouldn't hear the source as the composer intended.
As I'd be listening to it I'm my house/car/garden it would NEVER be as the composer intended anyway.
Exactly, EQ is a must to recreate the original and composer intended source as close as you can. Everything in your setup influences the sound, and you hearing, which frequencies you can hear, depends of your age, health conditions etc... So if someone says that I don't need an equalizer or to modify my sound source, I know for sure that I have in front of me an ignorant.
 
It takes a special kind of stupid to buy a product that was design to play analog music but only has digital outputs. I guess dust and scratches sound better when digitized?

Also, if this were an actual Apple product for music, it would require a subscription and only work with Bluetooth.
 
It takes a special kind of stupid to buy a product that was design to play analog music but only has digital outputs. I guess dust and scratches sound better when digitized?

Also, if this were an actual Apple product for music, it would require a subscription and only work with Bluetooth.
One of my favorite Apple blunders. 2006 product introduction of the iPod HiFi by Steve Jobs. To help sell this albatross of audio, Steve personally removed most of the good computer speakers from the Apple Store. Then when this tanked they never brought back what they chased away from the stores.

 
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for perspective
 
Ive is super rich thus is totally out of touch with the real world when it comes to 'us and them'. His 'us' is the super rich and wealthy thus $60,000 on turntable would be considered 'modest' when 'us' contains millionaires and billionaires.
Millionaires that spend 60 big on garbage like this aren't millionaires for much longer.
 

for perspective
That is insane. By definition.
 
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Limited edition. Only 250 will be made. I don't see this depreciating in value given who designed it.
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“Ive describes the LP12-50 as "a very gentle and modest project for us”

The price certainly is not modest.
There is the Goldmund reference ii for $300k. You could get the regular non anniversary version for about $4k. I would get an vpi scout for a lot less.
 
It takes a special kind of stupid to buy a product that was design to play analog music but only has digital outputs. I guess dust and scratches sound better when digitized?
Digital output?
 
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If the Linn sounds “so much better” than a $300 turntable or a CD player... they're digitally manipulating the output, or you're not testing it under a double blind condition.

I say that although my best recordings of vintage music are digitized from records... largely because the amount of care on issuing a CD of music that's already issued as a record was usually pretty low. There are one or two exceptions I personally know of... and my hearing range is indeed (still!) greater than 20/20 (lower than 20 Hz, no longer higher than 20 kHz, and I'm grateful for that, because dang those jewelry store alarms [or whatever it was that operated at high pitch] gave me a headache.)

Age has advantages. When I was younger I would know, as soon as I walked into a store, if they had ‘ultra’ sonic motion detectors. I never stayed in those stores longer than it took to find what I wanted then get the hell out.
 
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