yeah I would never NOT have my iphone jailbroken. I love it so much. i dont think i could go back to a non jailbroken iphone.. i mean i would buy a new one if they came out with it and waited for that to be jailbroken
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If Apple made a Jailbreak "proof" phone, would you still say its the best?
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yeah I would never NOT have my iphone jailbroken. I love it so much. i dont think i could go back to a non jailbroken iphone.. i mean i would buy a new one if they came out with it and waited for that to be jailbroken
1-2 second lag on starting a few select apps isn't a deal breaker for me. Beside, this isn't a discussion about whether or not to jailbreak, just if we would want the phone non-jailbroken.
On-topic: I would still use it, I bought it without even knowing what jailbreaking was capable of, and used it for 2-3 months stock. I would go back, but I would prefer having capabilities to change app icons. Its the only real reason I jailbreak, I really didn't like the stock iconset, nor do I much like most app store icons.
Everytime I jailbreak... I have this vision that I'm going to find some really cool stuff for my iPhone and make it better... and every single time, I poke around, install crap, use it for a few minutes... and then I restore my iPhone to an official firmware. Then, all is better. Jailbreaking always seems like it has promise, but when you finally do it... you get disappointed and ultimately a slower phone... and the iPhone doesn't need to go slower than it already does.
It's not worth Apples effort to 'Jailbreak proof' an iPhone. Why waste the resources and money on something that will ultimately only affect a small percentage of users? And worst case Apple would just lose those customers, so now they are out the cost of designing this 'Jailbreak proof' item + customer revenue. As long as iPhones are selling, Apple doesn't care. Jailbreaking does not affect Apple's revenue in any way or form, if anything it has helped sell a few more phones because Jailbreaking was the final 'push' people needed to buy one.
Summary: Not going to happen anyway, so it doesn't matter.
-Limb
Summary: Not going to happen anyway, so it doesn't matter.
-Limb
My non-JB phone can't play music without other apps lagging. So even though the iPod app technically runs in the background, I never do it. Jailbreaking gives me the option for MORE things to cause that? No thanks.
I'm happy for you since that apparently doesn't bother you, but some of us can't put up with that.
It's just a difference in opinions. Other people are going to have different needs. The point is, people like me won't care what Apple does or doesn't do about jailbreaking. I agree with the guy who says Apple doesn't really care. I can't see them really eliminating it forever.
Wow, really?
Can't say that's been my experience. I have music (or at least a podcast) playing in the background all the time while I surf, play games, look up a contact, etc.
Your phone really slows down when it's playing music?
My iPhone slows way down when listening to music too. However, I encode my audio at 192-256kbps AAC, so that may make a difference. When I'm listening to music, it takes like 5 seconds to open SMS. 5 seconds seems like forever when you're faced with a blank page and you want to reply to someone.
Wow, yeah. Can't say my SMS app takes any longer to open while music is playing (it always takes too long!
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Yeah. I never thought about it, but since TheSpaz mentioned bit rates, yes, my stuff is mostly like that too.
Probably not, the iPhone is amazing by itself but jailbreaking makes so much better. Do i want to wait for MMS, video recording, and landscape texting from Apple which will be implemented in firmware 4.2 or get it now? Thanks for providing the platform Apple but jailbreaking makes the phone worlds better
It doesn't. A couple programs (Winterboard, some MobileSubstrate apps, and Intelliscreen) are known to cause issues, but many others (OpenSSH, wget, lynx, etc.) cause no issues whatsoever.
Your claim is analogous to claiming that cars themselves cause accidents because some people are careless drivers. It's faulty logic, and it leads novices to believe that jailbreaking is somehow harmful or detrimental to the iPhone.
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Edit: Oh, and to the OP: it's a moot point. You can't build a perfectly-secure device as long as it accepts any form of input.
I understand why others jailbreak and unlock their iPhones, but personally I prefer to just be a good little O2 customer and know that I won't run into problems down the line with my phone.
Locked and jailed, the iPhone is still the best phone on the market for my purposes. It works so beautifully within and as an extension of my Mac environment!
I do look forward to multi-tasking in the next version of the iPhone however. That and an improved camera and video would really make it a perfect device for my needs.
Locked and jailed, the iPhone is still the best phone on the market for my purposes. It works so beautifully within and as an extension of my Mac environment!
I do look forward to multi-tasking in the next version of the iPhone however. That and an improved camera and video would really make it a perfect device for my needs.
Wait... you're using the number of Google results as evidence.
Are you serious?
Look, just because some people install buggy software onto a jailbroken iPhone doesn't mean that jailbreaking itself causes performance or stability problems. If you understood what jailbreaking was, you'd know why your claims are so ridiculous.
I personally don't jailbreak. I am tempted sometimes, but the key reason I don't is because I used to be a Windows Mobile user (Motorola Q), and I learned the hard way that the more you customize the phone with themes and such, the poorer it performs. When I first got the Q, I went crazy customizing it in all sorts of ways. Several months later, I found myself stripping nearly everything off that ran in the background, so I could get decent performance from the phone again. That says something.
The cold hard reality of all smartphones is that none of them manage memory or multitask real well. It's an inherent limitation brought about by the need to manage battery life. The processors and the memory bus can only be so fast, and for cost reasons you can only have so much application RAM on board. EVERY phone has this limitation, the iPhone is no exception.
Features are important to me, but the phone must first and foremost be responsive. Even out of the box, the iPhone is not always as responsive as I'd like (though mostly it's fine). I'm not going to make it worse.
The cold hard reality of all smartphones is that none of them manage memory or multitask real well. It's an inherent limitation brought about by the need to manage battery life. The processors and the memory bus can only be so fast, and for cost reasons you can only have so much application RAM on board. EVERY phone has this limitation, the iPhone is no exception.
Features are important to me, but the phone must first and foremost be responsive. Even out of the box, the iPhone is not always as responsive as I'd like (though mostly it's fine). I'm not going to make it worse.
Very true.
That said, some manage memory better than others. The iPhone actually has a very, very good memory management system (although, as you rightly pointed out, it's still constrained by the hardware itself). S60 does a decent job of memory management and multitasking... provided you don't exhaust RAM. If you do, the OS promptly ****s itself and goes into "insanely-unpredictable-and-unreliable" mode. Windows Mobile... well... let's just say that memory management has never been Windows CE's forte.
Another reason why I don't jailbreak is that I used to modify the graphics and icons and custom wallpapers... I used to create symlinks to free up more space and modify .plist files and stuff, but then when something goes terribly wrong (sometimes it did) I'd have to restore and I'd be faced with a factory default phone again (or at that time an iPod touch) and it always sucked to have to go through all of that again just to have it back to the way I had it before the restore. I like being able to restore to an official firmware and revert to a backup and I'm good to go.
Agreed. I bought the phone to make my life more efficient, not suck up all my time doing restores and rebuilds. I'd stick with WinMo if I wanted to do that.
Aside from Cycorder and Winterboard, and the ability to customize backgrounds, etc... jailbreaking really isn't an issue with me.
Honestly I've used the Cycorder maybe 3-4 times since I downloaded.
Honestly I've used the Cycorder maybe 3-4 times since I downloaded.
I'm sure that's true for some people, but for me it actually made the device into a far more useful one than it otherwise would have been.