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meh. SSDs improve speed upon the first load of an application. Once that app is loaded into the ram, and you have sufficient ram to keep that app in the ram, there is NO DIFFERENCE in speed between a HD and an SSD. A majority of everyday tasks will run at about the same speed with a HD or SSD. Loading the task originally is the only difference.
 
Ok, I'll play your stupid little game. The high end 15" is faster than the low end 17". The Mac Mini is faster than the 13" MBP. What's your point? If we want to take our apples to oranges comparison even further, my Subaru Outback is faster than every computer Apple sells.

Look, you're the one who threw out every single benefit that the 13" MBP has over the MBA based on some nebulous "everyday tasks" standard, which only included every day tasks performed by YOU. What about burning a DVD or connecting to an ethernet network? Those seem like pretty common "everyday tasks" to me. Which system is faster at that (without cheating by connecting peripherals)?

Also, don't complain when I generalize price tags when you're the one brought them into the conversation to begin with.

I didn't throw out the benefits and advantages of the MBP vs Air. The MBP has a faster processor, can write/read files faster, encoding would be much better, etc. I never said any of that. I simply said everyday tasks and apps would be faster on the Air and to me, it shouldn't be that way.

I see "everyday tasks" referred to many, many times on these forums and elsewhere and don't think I'm crazy for saying everyday tasks include web browsing, photo importing/editing, music downloading, and applications such as Word And Excel and things like this. Not to mention startup. That's all I was stating. I know the MBP is a far superior machine, but I meant what I said in the OP. :)
 
I didn't throw out the benefits and advantages of the MBP vs Air. The MBP has a faster processor, can write/read files faster, encoding would be much better, etc. I never said any of that. I simply said everyday tasks and apps would be faster on the Air and to me, it shouldn't be that way.

I see "everyday tasks" referred to many, many times on these forums and elsewhere and don't think I'm crazy for saying everyday tasks include web browsing, photo importing/editing, music downloading, and applications such as Word And Excel and things like this. Not to mention startup. That's all I was stating. I know the MBP is a far superior machine, but I meant what I said in the OP. :)

half those "everyday tasks" are not affected by hdd vs ssd speed.

web browsing - once safari is loaded, there is no difference in speed
photo importing/editing, - once the photo is loaded, assuming you have enough ram to cover it, no difference
music downloading - unless you can dl at over 30MB/S, then no impact
and applications such as Word And Excel - after the document is loaded, no difference
 
You don't think it should be this way. To what end? Should Apple not have a 13" MBP with a HDD in it at all? Then this forum would be on fire about how expensive it is. Or maybe they should cripple the MBA so it's slower? I still fail to see your point.
 
You don't think it should be this way. To what end? Should Apple not have a 13" MBP with a HDD in it at all? Then this forum would be on fire about how expensive it is. Or maybe they should cripple the MBA so it's slower? I still fail to see your point.

You're taking it way out of proportion. I was stating that startup and a few other tasks that people probably use more on a day to day basis are faster because of the SSD in a MacBook Air, which is a lower end model then a MBP, or at least is advertised that way. I don't even feel like arguing about this anymore because this isn't even about what I meant in the OP.
 
This is one of the worst arguments I've ever seen.

Even the April 2010 13" MBP at $1199 + $250 128GB SSD only comes out to roughly $50 more than the MBA with similar specs, you'd have to pay the $100 to upgrade the RAM to 4GB. So, I've spent $1450 + tax for my MBP with SSD and you paid $1399 + tax for your MBA and the only things better on your machine are the resolution and it's lighter.

Come tomorrow, the disparity is even more apparent.
 
...because of the SSD in a MacBook Air, which is a lower end model then a MBP, or at least is advertised that way.

Since when is the MBA a"low end model" of the MBP? They are different types of machines: ultra portable vs. portable. It's not the same line of machines (and not the same price range either!). And how exactly are they "advertised" as such? I think you are overreacting... I not expecting a entry model MB with a 5400 rpm HD to beat a laptop with SSD in booting applications.
 
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