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I actually agree with John Gruber on this one - it's the first completely non-Mac derivative new PC case I've seen in a while. In that sense I approve of it as something new and different in the PC industry, which is very rare. They've been rehashing old designs for so long that something like this is a breath of fresh air. If this design doesn't sell well, it'll inspire something else actually new that does.
 
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I like.

Apart from the box enclosure and the all-in-one Macintosh, this is the first new idea is case design in decades...

The case says something...I don't care what particularly...so long as it's different :p
 
Aw c'mon if it were painted grey and had the apple logo you'd all be foaming about Ive's latest masterpiece.
 
I really like it, and I think some others should notice about separating components to allow for better cooling.

I for one would love a Mac Pro that was a couple of inches taller with four more drive bays.

At $700, I would never go near it, but if they make more like them and get the costs down, I could see myself looking at something like it. What they should do is make a hybrid of this case and the liquid suspension cases, allowing dipping of the cased components into cooling liquid.
 
It weighs too much and uses way too much excess power.
I'm lost why weight is of that much concern as it's a desktop and if a desk can't support the weight, then it probably wouldn't be suitable for most pro users. And I agree that it wastes power, but I'm lost how it's way too much.

My concern has to do with the simplicity that does not exist.
 
There has not been a single PC case/build that has impressed me. If the design is good, the build quality is usually cheap and vice versa. Nothing beats the satisfaction of lifting a Mac Pro out of the box - so cool to the touch :D

Every time someone sees my MP they always let out a 'Aaaah.. what is that? a computer? it's so beautiful!' You'd think a MBP would garner that kind of attention.
 
that does look nasty, not liking the matte and shiny look and it looks about 4ft high :O be interesting fitting that under a desk lol

and 700 dollars :O only pc diehards would pay that kind of money for such a ugly thing :O
 
Aw c'mon if it were painted grey and had the apple logo you'd all be foaming about Ive's latest masterpiece.

If Apple introduced this

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as their next design I'd sell my stocks, revoke my developer's status, and unregister from all Apple related communities - because they would be surely doomed. If not doomed then insane at least.
 
... That's why Apple keeps control...
Apple has their obsession over control to make their products incompatible enough that they can charge more $$$ for it. They've also put substantial sums of $$$ into marketing their systems in a manner to make users "feel exclusive". Somewhat similar to other items, such as BMW, but with a stark difference.

BMW actually designs, engineers and manufactures their own products. Apple however, does not. :eek: They do the case work, an ODM/s does the rest, using the exact same parts that other computer manufacturers use that are widely available (off the shelf chips/assemblies). So in Apple's case, it's the marketing. The intentional "bricking"/incompatibilities has far more to do with keeping margins high rather than improving the system (keeping to hardware).

...those awful garage mechanic tool sets one can buy at Sears... puke...
Those are made by S&K, which is actually a really decent tool manufacturer. :) What's the problem? :eek: :D :p
 
nanofrog said:
Apple has their obsession over control to make their products incompatible enough that they can charge more $$$ for it. They've also put substantial sums of $$$ into marketing their systems in a manner to make users "feel exclusive". Somewhat similar to other items, such as BMW, but with a stark difference.

BMW actually designs, engineers and manufactures their own products. Apple however, does not. They do the case work, an ODM/s does the rest, using the exact same parts that other computer manufacturers use that are widely available (off the shelf chips/assemblies). So in Apple's case, it's the marketing. The intentional "bricking"/incompatibilities has far more to do with keeping margins high rather than improving the system (keeping to hardware).

You think BMW don't use off-the-shelf parts for hinges/wires/tubes/pumps/brakes/exhausts/e.t.c ;)
 
You think BMW don't use off-the-shelf parts for hinges/wires/tubes/pumps/brakes/exhausts/e.t.c ;)
To some extent, perhaps (completely off the shelf, no design, specs,...), but the majority, they do themselves or at least engineer it (send specs to an OEM parts manufacturer). Even door hinges would have to be made with dimensions and offsets in mind, as it's not a household door (common spec, set by the gov.). ;)

To some extent it's a difficult comparison, as there's far more to an automobile than a computer. Cars have computer system/s too, not just an engine, body, interior, and 4 wheels. :p
 
nanofrog said:
To some extent, perhaps (completely off the shelf, no design, specs,...), but the majority, they do themselves or at least engineer it (send specs to an OEM parts manufacturer). Even door hinges would have to be made with dimensions and offsets in mind, as it's not a household door (common spec, set by the gov.).

To some extent it's a difficult comparison, as there's far more to an automobile than a computer. Cars have computer system/s too, not just an engine, body, interior, and 4 wheels.

lol...my point was that to be competitive these days, you have to assemble ready made parts, to some extent at least.

while this may not always guarantee the best product, it does make it much cheaper...
 
lol...my point was that to be competitive these days, you have to assemble ready made parts, to some extent at least.

while this may not always guarantee the best product, it does make it much cheaper...
I understand.

But that would have been more obvious if the manufacturer would be of another brand, such as Ford, GM, Toyota,... (companies that either use off the shelf parts, or what you could call that). Think "massive parts bins" that either they make, or have made, and use them in as many models as possible. :D So there are ways they can use their own designed parts, if not manufactured themselves, in a manner that does cut production costs. Design costs too.

Perhaps a minor difference to some, but to me, it's of note. They at least controlled the design, and if they have any sense, maintain some control over quality control during manufacture (i.e. random testing, and lots returned if a specced percentage is discovered from that lot). That makes a big difference.

Unfortunately, this doesn't happen often with computers. They get the parts and use them. No control over manufacturing, and in some cases, even the design if it was ODM, rather than an OEM contract. Foreign borders further complicate the issue as well, but the main reason tends to be simple. Greed. The lowest bidder doesn't want the buyer hovering over their shoulders, as some corners are getting cut. :p
 
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