If the Nano Sim is 40% smaller than the Micro Sim...

[Breaking Good]

Dude I have never carried mobiles and never will that's why I opened this thread but pretty much everyone I know has 2-3 lines.

The trend is to have BB and iPhone too these days.

You know, I never thought about it much until you said it. But you are right. I have two lines myself. I have a work line and a personal line. I have a iPhone 3GS I bought used for my personal line and I just had my work Blackberry replaced with an iPhone 4.

Now admittedly for me it's easy as both phones are on AT&T. So I just keep my personal phone forwarded to my work phone.

 

[ThatsMeRight]

If you actually looked at the inside of an iPhone 5, you would see that there is plenty of room for Microsim.

Apple felt like moving to a new standard just to add something else to their 'improved' list.

The new nano sim standard was only approved around June of this year. I think it is very well possible that they were building the iPhone 5 around the micro SIM standard, just in case the nano sim was rejected.

When it was accepted, they just moved on to the nano sim. This means nano SIM adaption will be sped up by one full year.

 

[animatedude]

Like I said, small minority group of users. Most people have just 1 line, bro. You expect a company like Apple to waste their time making a larger phone just so less than 10% of its users can insert an extra SIM?

Let's see, devote extra R&D dollars to engineer something that only 10% of your customers want. Does that make business sense?

How many Android-based smartphones do this? You could go with the Acer Liquid Gallant Duo; it has dual SIM slots.

It's either 1) mediocre phone with all of the features you want and is bulky/heavy or 2) flagship phone with a handful of great features that's also thin and sleak. Be realistic.

You sound like a very whiny adult.

Man based on what you are saying its 10%.80% of the ppl I know have more than one line or more than one smartphone but I'm sure it's different in your country or your city.

 

[Kissaragi]

Apple don't even allow a removable battery, you really expect them too add 2 sim slots in for the 0.1% of users that care about that kind of thing?

The nano sim just makes sense, it removes all the wasted space possible on the card without altering the contacts. It will no doubt be the new standard in a few years, in high end phones at least.

Apple always push for new standards when they design them or like them. Just like they have done with USB, dropping floppies, html5, etc etc.

 

[articulatefool]

1- The savings contributed to allowing the device to be as thin and light as it is, regardless of the scale of the contribution.
2- So..now you're arguing that it was good to save space. Ok so we're on the same page.
3- Not much smaller, but smaller enough to make a difference. The SIM shrinkage is there. Now they have to apply the same effort to shrinking the assembly to save more space. The SIM tray itself is significantly smaller.
4- Nope. It's significantly smaller and thinner. I really invite you to accept your own invitation: just take a look at two phones with their backs off.

iPhone 4S
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iPhone 5
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If you really don't see the size savings here, there's not much more I can do for you. Best of luck.

The argument that something was not necessary is way different from the argument that it was beneficial...

Did you measure these two pictures? The sim assembly is the virtually the same size! (3 CM on my monitor: assuming each picture is at the same scale)

 

[mKTank]

Lol no it's not the same size.

You're on your own, bub.

 

[CyBeRino]

Ok, once again. I will break this down so it is easier for you.
1. I never claimed it didn't save any space, I claimed the space savings was not necessary.

Perhaps not for the iPhone 5. Just like the iPhone 5 would've easily been able to accept a 30-pin connector by the looks of it.

But I guarantee you the next iPhone (that isn't just a 5S-- I mean a new design) will need these smaller parts. And by then we'll all have bunches of Lightning cables and we'll be wondering what mini- and micro-sims were again.

It's all about the future.

By the way, look at the recently announced iPods nanos. They can't make them any thinner any more because the one damn part they can't go without or change won't fit if they do: the headphone jack.

 

[Mrbobb]

Shoulda, woulda, Coulda.

Heck if carriers had listened to me, this feature should existed 10 years ago, so I don't have to carry one phone for my boss, and another phone for my ball&chain!