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I didn't express an opinion, just made an observation.

BTW, I wasn't aware that iPhones used a PCIe bus to support Thunderbolt.
I suppose a Thunderbolt port would be cheaper than USB, huh?
Now where did I put my Thunderbolt to USB cable?

Sorry I meant current thunderbolt peripheral. As in the thunderbolt ports on Macbooks and iMacs. I wasn't implying that iPhones already have thunderbolt support.
 
It looks like a Micro USB fits in there pretty good.

Wouldn't the edges of that hole would be shaped like a micro USB if this was going to be the case? I'm thinking a proprietary connector that's non-polar so I can finally stop trying to fit the charger upside down because the little connector icon on it has worn off :mad:
 
Sorry I meant current thunderbolt peripheral. As in the thunderbolt ports on Macbooks and iMacs. I wasn't implying that iPhones already have thunderbolt support.
Yes, but Macbooks and iMacs have a PCIe bus that the Thunderbolt peripheral interfaces with (basically exposes), the iPhone does not.
A Firewire port would be simpler to implement, but they did that before with the iPod and abandoned it for USB.
 
You have to be kidding. If the new dock connector is real, its one of the best changes Apple has ever made.

I agree, as I currently can't stand the size and functionality of the current 30 pin connector.

1. It makes it a pain in the arse to plug in your devices, especially if your SUPER PARANOID about scratches like I am.

2. The freaking thinking scratches the inside of the port to heck and back.

This will DEFINITELY be a good move on Apples part!!!
 
One of the things I hated about the Windows ecosystem we left last year for Apple (and Palm in years past) was the constant spending on different connectors and the pile of useless cables or, worse, missing cables. Since switching to Apple everybody in the house has ready access to chargers. It was a huge relief. I don't look forward to a new connector. Been there and done that.
 
Micro Thunderbolt :D

Charging wise. I know it's a little slower, but I wish everyone would move over to inductive charging, so you got home and simply laid your iPhone on a pad to recharge overnight. No plugs, no connectors to scratch, no wires.
Palm did it, so I'm sure Apple could do it, and wireless charging (even if as an option) is such a "no brainer" that people would love.
 
The only "docks" I use are charging cables.

1 x iPad charger in the living room and 1 in the bedroom, plus an iPhone cable connected to my iMac.

No true docks in the house, audio is done over AirPlay to ATV 3 (connected to Onkyo amp).

So I'll need new adapters for my iPhone 5 as SWMBO will still need the 30 pin connector for her iPhone 4.

So a little "Grrrr" from me.
 
Looks like I'll be buying a new Universal Dock, another spare USB cable, and eventually, a new USB adapter from either BMW ($Cha-Ching!$) Chrysler, or Mitsubishi - whoever I buy my new car from.

Looks like I'll be spending $120-200 if we change the adapter.
 
I Bluetooth my iPhone to my stereo in my BMW with a Parrot system & I charge my iPhone with a mini USB connector via my Mophie juice pack air. I'm all set unless the input is proprietary.
 
I don't think these 5 pin connectors carry video or audio. 2 pins carry the power (Pos, neg), 2 pins carry the date (+, -) and the last pin I think is ground.

Well, there are devices that already support this (like sgs2) with an mhl-adapter. You plug the mhl-adapter into your phone's micro usb-port and a normal hdmi cable into the adapter. Unfortunately the adapter usually also requires you to connect an micro-usb charger into the adapter to power it and at the same time also charge your phone. With this kind of setup devices like sgs2 can output 1080p with 7.1 channel audio through those 5 pins used in the micro-usb connector. There's no reason why they couldn't do something similar with the iPhone.
 
As others have said, there is no doubt a small adapter will be produced, either by Apple or outside companies to make it easier to transition.

I wasn't aware there were vehicles that had built in 30-pin connectors. That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. :confused: Technology constantly changes, people.
 
Well, there are devices that already support this (like sgs2) with an mhl-adapter. You plug the mhl-adapter into your phone's micro usb-port and a normal hdmi cable into the adapter. Unfortunately the adapter usually also requires you to connect an micro-usb charger into the adapter to power it and at the same time also charge your phone. With this kind of setup devices like sgs2 can output 1080p with 7.1 channel audio through those 5 pins used in the micro-usb connector. There's no reason why they couldn't do something similar with the iPhone.

I've seen miro-usb ports that have 10 pins. I'm not sure if the device you referenced has this 10 pin connector or not but even with an adapter I don't see how you can get video and audio using just those 5 pins. Each of those leads has a dedicated function in the phone. Like in the 30 pin connector, pins 2, 3, and 4 are the audio out (ground, left and right respectively).

It's possible the new iPhone will have a 10 pin micro usb connector and that the picture in this thread is inaccurate.
 
I have a number of accessories which use the dock connector's analog audio out. You can't tell me a cheap adapter's going to convert digital out to analog audio. These accessories will become worthless.
 
Could they utilize magnetic charging like the macbooks and use the same port for connection to accessories? Just curious
 
As I haven't really used apple products for a few months some for years I totally forgot about all those people who bought high end Bowers & Wilkins, Bose or other products who now have connectors that may not be compatible.
 
Yes, but Macbooks and iMacs have a PCIe bus that the Thunderbolt peripheral interfaces with (basically exposes), the iPhone does not.
A Firewire port would be simpler to implement, but they did that before with the iPod and abandoned it for USB.
Gotcha. I'm just going by rumors I've heard. If they can support it in anyway, though, I wouldn't doubt that Apple DOES go the Thunderbolt route. They aren't pushing the tech immensely, but they adopted it early on, so they must believe in it. I can't see them not releasing most of their software with thunderbolt support.

Who knows what we will see.
 
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