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I am not so sure it is good news. Do not think touch ID will be on the 8's screen so . . . . .

According to the latest rumors the so-called Face-ID will not do Apple Pay. My theory is Apple will not give up on Apple Pay and therefore cannot give up Touch ID.
 
The phone is in our hands, fingertips just work so well when unlocking a phone. It just makes sense using those over any other part of the body.

Not to mention Touch ID is pretty much flawless.
 
I agree, which is good news for us hoping to keep Touch ID.

I think the reason FaceID is rumoured to be delayed could be linked to this as well, they're in talks with banks to have FaceID enabled for Apple Pay, when they launch iOS 11.1 (to enable wireless charging/FaceID), Apple Pay will be supported with FaceID, in the meantime Apple will encourage users to use passcode or Touch ID (under display or power button - really hoping Apple doesn't take it away).

It's impossible for FaceID to not work with Apple Pay, otherwise most people will simply not switch to using FaceID, and there won't be a point in having FaceID in the first place if it can only be used for authentication when unlocking the phone and not for other purposes like payments. There's could be a way to have FaceID for unlocking and passcode for Apple Pay both enabled at the same time, but that's messy and I don't think Apple will go that way.
 
I think the reason FaceID is rumoured to be delayed could be linked to this as well, they're in talks with banks to have FaceID enabled for Apple Pay, when they launch iOS 11.1 (to enable wireless charging/FaceID), Apple Pay will be supported with FaceID, in the meantime Apple will encourage users to use passcode or Touch ID (under display or power button - really hoping Apple doesn't take it away).

It's impossible for FaceID to not work with Apple Pay, otherwise most people will simply not switch to using FaceID, and there won't be a point in having FaceID in the first place if it can only be used for authentication when unlocking the phone and not for other purposes like payments. There's could be a way to have FaceID for unlocking and passcode for Apple Pay both enabled at the same time, but that's messy and I don't think Apple will go that way.

Good point, but no matter how good face ID is, it just seems more awkward to use whether it is for unlocking or for Apple Pay. I really hope they don't get rid of Touch ID, it just works, like Apple products should.
 
According to the latest rumors the so-called Face-ID will not do Apple Pay. My theory is Apple will not give up on Apple Pay and therefore cannot give up Touch ID.

I hope your theory is right but I do not think so, at least not on the 8 releasing this fall. It might have finger ID but will not be on the screen.
 
The speculated reason for not having Touch ID is the tech isn't ready. If that's the case, does Apple bring back Touch ID next year on the 8s?

I feel like if Touch ID isn't on the 8 then Apple would just have to kill it altogether and claim Face ID is better. Bringing Touch ID back on the 8s would be admitting to the 8 being a compromised product, which is something Apple will never want to do.

The sensor for Touch ID is a single-use component. The 3-D sensing capabilities that go along with 3-D facial recognition have more potential uses - gesture sensing for UI control, for example. So long term, I think Apple would abandon Touch ID, so long as 3-D facial recognition is acceptable for Apple Pay and other secure uses. If it's acceptable for version 1.0 in the iPhone 8, it'll be acceptable for subsequent versions as well.

In other words, if it works for iPhone 8, there's no need to go back. If it's a failure in iPhone 8, Apple has much bigger problems than the embarrassment of returning to Touch ID in later models.
 
Good point, but no matter how good face ID is, it just seems more awkward to use whether it is for unlocking or for Apple Pay. I really hope they don't get rid of Touch ID, it just works, like Apple products should.

Why is it awkward? You will be looking at the screen anyway when touching the phone to the terminal or unlocking it. It might be awkward if the FaceID camera's field of view is limited, but if not, then there's nothing awkward about it. It will be as fast and convenient as TouchID, if not more.

Plus Apple isn't forcing FaceID on anyone. If you don't like it or if doesn't work well for you, just use the good ol' passcode.
 
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The sensor for Touch ID is a single-use component. The 3-D sensing capabilities that go along with 3-D facial recognition have more potential uses - gesture sensing for UI control, for example. So long term, I think Apple would abandon Touch ID, so long as 3-D facial recognition is acceptable for Apple Pay and other secure uses. If it's acceptable for version 1.0 in the iPhone 8, it'll be acceptable for subsequent versions as well.

In other words, if it works for iPhone 8, there's no need to go back. If it's a failure in iPhone 8, Apple has much bigger problems than the embarrassment of returning to Touch ID in later models.

Face ID would have to be approved by the banks. There are reports of unlocking with just a picture . . .not sure if the banks will go for this. Might be back to a passcode . . . not for me, hated using the passcode and just went without. I do not use Apple Pay anyway.
 
Yes they will bring it back after everything is all worked out. Luckily people looking for Touch ID will get the 7S and the iPhone 8 owners will have to be the gunny pigs.
 
I literally could not care less. If its different design from the 6 series (6, 6s, 7) I am buying it with or without touchID. Better tech in terms of finger printer touchID could come later down the road but Apple will have some kind of substitution for touchID because too much features are dependent on it like apple pay among others.
 
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Let's just wait and see what happens. I am sure it will be a great product that sells really well, just like the year before, and the year before that. The whining babies screaming that they won't be buying as if it makes any difference to Apple or anyone on here are getting out of hand.
 
Who cares I have given Up on the iPhone 8 already here's why.

#1. The tech isn't ready never buy a Gen 1 Apple product we all know that. Can you just imagine the Threads here when people start complaining.
#2. Serious production delays very small supply amount. On top of that No one wants the 4 year old design of the 7s and 7s Plus so Everyone wants the iPhone 8. The immense hassle to even buy one.
#3. No Gigabit LTE, Apple is fighting with Qualcomm Apple will be using older Intel and Qualcomm Modems so they can not take Advantage of Icreased Coverage and improved reception.
#4. We are being played for fools, this years 5.8" OLED Display is sourced from Samsungs Note series with No Home Button and no Bezels it's the Swme size overall as the 4.7" IPhone so it's Ladylike in size. Next Years 8s Plus will be sourced from Samsungs Note Series an they will be 6.4" OLED. So Apple is forcing people to buy the small iPhone. Unless the 8 Plus is the best kept secret ever.
#5. No matter what you Will Not be Able to buy One Until Middle of 2018. You won't be able to walk into a store and buy one until at least June 2018 and by then just wait for the much improved 8s Plus with A12 CPU.
#6. No Touch ID, No Gigabit LTE, No Supply, No 3.5 Audio jack, No Plus model, Man This takes Courage.

1. If I can get a good deal on it right away with trading in my SE, I am willing to forgot waiting.

2. You just have to get lucky on pre-order night or get on a backorder list while being proactive for an in store reservation.

3. Phone internals are probably planned months in advance, so the Gigabit LTE infrastructure could be there since 2016 and Apple would not remove it just because of legal tension since it's more costly to ramp up Intel production at the last second.

4. How are people fools if they're going to use the 5.8" model for 2-3 years and be happy with it? Bigger isn't always better. There are markets for a 4", 4.7", and 5.5" iPhone respectively. If the 4" market didn't exist, no iPhone SE.

5. You're over-exaggerating. The Nintendo Switch has shown us that people will try to scalp products, but you just have to be patient for restocks to happen to get it at MSRP and it's bound to happen eventually.

6. Touch ID is likely out but time will tell. No forgone conclusion Gigabit LTE will be there or not plus what will you do with 1 GB down that you cannot do with today's hardware especially since hardware will be outdated eventually? Ok, supply will be really constraint, get a 7S then instead if it exists. 3.5mm audio jacks are going away as time progress. HTC and Apple do not have them. Samsung and LG could join the party soon too. There could be a 7S or 8+ model, so don't be so sure on that.
 
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If Apple does not include Touch ID on the new iPhone, they will have a reason for it. While it's probably going to be a roundabout marketing reason to cover their engineering team not making it work, they will position whatever the Touch ID replacement to be superior to Touch ID.

It would not make sense for Apple to make the case that the new iPhone has something superior to Touch ID and then return to Touch ID in the next model.

If Touch ID is not on the next iPhone, it will not be on the proceeding version.
 
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