If Windows had Mac sales and Mac sales had window sales,

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by Mr. MacBook, Apr 13, 2007.

  1. Mr. MacBook macrumors 6502

    Feb 28, 2007
    Would you still be using a Mac?

    I switched to Mac because it was unique and I heard that it was silky-smooth when multitasking.

    Still, if Mac was the default and windows was for switchers, would we hear rumors about it being a great OS and stuff?

    Just wondering.
  2. gr8tfly macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2006
    ~119W 34N
    It's not "rumors". It really is a great OS. That opinion is based on actual use and understanding of it's design, which includes the interface and architecture(UNIX based). I've used many OS's, and developed software for many - mostly Windows. So I've spent waay too much time in Window OS. My personal machines have been Macs by choice. Yes, there is a uniqueness to them, but that's just part of the story.

    Interesting question, though!
  3. Mr. Gumby macrumors newbie

    Mar 30, 2007
    My brain hurts!
    I'd think you may have people to choose Windows in this hypothetical situation if they choose to use Macs just to be "different." (A sort rebellious personality trait?) Personally, I have and use both PCs and Macs but, if I have the choice, would only use Macs. My reasons for using Macs wouldn't change if its market share was 1% or 99%.
  4. SkyBell macrumors 604


    Sep 7, 2006
    Texas, unfortunately.
    If it was reversed, there would be a hell of a lot more viruses for Macs.
  5. iBookG4user macrumors 604


    Jun 27, 2006
    Seattle, WA
    I would choose the best OS with the best hardware, if all the PC manufacturers and Apple retained their current quality then I would still choose to buy a Mac. The same goes for Windows and Mac OS X, if they retained their current quality then I would still choose Mac OS X.
  6. plinden macrumors 68040


    Apr 8, 2004
    I've used PCs for 19 years. So I don't use a Mac because I want to be different. Just like I have an iPod but not because I want to fit in.

    I use a Mac because I slowly came to the realization there was a different OS that's mostly better than Windows. And I use an iPod because there was nothing better. Still isn't.
  7. dpaanlka macrumors 601


    Nov 16, 2004
    I switch to Mac because it was better. I switch to Mac during Mac OS 9.

    Also, in my environment, having a Mac isn't really "different" - tons of people have them. I'd have to say they're just as common around Bradley University as HPs and Dells and stuff.
  8. eji macrumors 6502


    Jun 8, 2004
    Inland Empire
    If only market share changed and nothing else, I would still use Macs and the Mac OS. I'd even like to think that the bigger profit margins for Apple would make Macs more inexpensive.

    But truth be told, nearly everything I can think of loses something special -- usually the thing that made it worthwhile -- when it goes "mainstream." For easy comparison, I'd point to the time when the alt.rock and grunge fads hit, and all the people started listening to the bands I'd been listening to for years. You suddenly get a whole bunch of folks who are clueless about what they're using/listening to/wearing; they're only doing it because they cling to the socially accepted. And that inevitably takes its toll on the product or art, which, along with being hijacked by equally clueless business types, also naturally tries to preserve its dominance and ends up catering to these flavor du jour monkeys.

    I *like* the niche. Not because it makes me feel superior, but because I don't need my peer group to approve my personal decisions, and furthermore, the niche demographic that's using the item has made a deliberate and usually informed decision to do so. Imagine a time when you ask someone why they use a Mac, and they don't start listing the advantages of the hardware/software integration or the elegant simplicity of OS X. Instead they just shrug and say, "Uh, I dunno. It was on sale." Won't you say something about the whole Mac experience will have gone missing?

    And even Apple would fall a victim to crowd-pleasing. Just look at this iPhone and Leopard nonsense, for instance. The longtime Mac user base has become a second priority, and the next OS is delayed because of some silly fad product. But just think of all those high schoolers (with all their parents' purchasing power) who will be upset if it's not out by June!
  9. Frohike macrumors regular

    Feb 28, 2007
    Kent, England
    I think that the fact that windows would be working harder to break into the market and gain a bigger market share would mean they would be trying harder to produce good and unique soft/hardware, which is what Apple are doing right now.

    I feel over the years Microsoft have become complacent in terms of developing new ideas, whereas apple keep on enlightening us with the wonders of amazing new technologies!
  10. dmw007 macrumors G4


    May 26, 2005
    Working for MI-6
    Even if sales were the opposite, I would still use a Mac because it is still the best OS one can use! :cool: :apple:
  11. MisterMe macrumors G4


    Jul 17, 2002
    Unlike you and a lot of others, I am not a switcher [from Windows]. Before using the Mac, I used IBM System 360 mainframes, Radio Shack TRS-80s, CP/M-based computers, MS-DOS (to a lesser extent), and HP-86s. I used my first Mac in 1989 and bought my first later that year. Back then, Windows was a curiosity used primarily as a multitasker/launcher for MS-DOS applications.

    As you might surmise, my decision to go Mac had nothing to do with "being different" or finding a niche isolated from the maintream. The Mac allows me to leverage my skills to produce higher quality products with less effort than with any other platform. I made the right decision in 1989 and stuck with it. Easily, I have invested $10k-$15k in software for my computers. Dating back to 1989, I have files which are in the proprietary formats of their creating Mac applications. If I were to switch to Windows, then I would have to spend another $5k-$10K to reproduce my suite of Mac software on the new platform. No way am I going to do that.
  12. BengalDuck macrumors regular

    Oct 27, 2006
    I use macs not to be different but to be efficient. Simply put, I work better because my computer works great. I don't believe I could get the same results from a PC.

    I do not use Creative mp3 players or SanDisk or anything else, even though iPods dominate the market. I use what's best. In the case of the mp3, the biggest company has the best product so I use that. With my personal computer, the best company for me has just a small share of the market.
  13. AlexisV macrumors 68000


    Mar 12, 2007
    Manchester, UK
    What, more than 0?

    It's 2007 - do you write a Windows virus that you hope will bring the world down, but really just end up being lost amongst the other 1,000,000 out there


    write an OS X one where you would get publicity around the world because no one has yet written a virus that will bring down Apples?

    Windows get tons of viruses mainly because the operating system is flawed. They can't start from scratch because it's Windows so they patch it to an inch of it's life.

    And call it Vista :)
  14. Bill Gates macrumors 68020

    Bill Gates

    Jun 21, 2006
    If this were so, then I'd probably be running a PC with linux. OS X is excellent, but a lot of its appeal for me at least is the fact that it has a much smaller, closer-knit community. I used to run Linux a little over a year ago for the simple reason that it ran everything I needed, and wasn't the mainstream joe schmoe OS. I'd still be running it today if Apple were the behemoth of the computer industry. Large or small market share, Windows is still Windows- simple, functional, boring. At least with Linux and OS X I can dick around with the command line if I wish, and it's fully functional. I can't say the same for CMD.exe. Personally, I find Linux to be 90% as functional as OS X, however it does 95% of what I need. Therefore, it would impact my productivity very little to switch.
  15. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    1. mac and windows are on different stages, u can ask a question about OSX and windows, since many macs (more than 1/3) support windows now.

    2. if windows and OSX's market is opposite right now. then

    a. since apple is restricting its software and hardware to be sold together, the computer industry will not be as thriving as now. so I might not be able to afford one anyway.

    b. apple need to produce 16X more machines as they are making now, either their quality control will go down the tube, or apple would be much much bigger a company then today.

    c. if OS9 was not dying 8 years ago, there will not be an OSX.

    d. when OSX's market reach 80%, there will be >10000 virus on it.

    so, if i were able to afford one, I will go for a pc with linux.
  16. matthew24 macrumors 6502


    May 30, 2002
    'd. when OSX's market reach 80%, there will be >10000 virus on it.'

    Complete nonsense.

    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    And you (should) know it.
  17. dejo Moderator


    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2004
    The Centennial State
    Windows is an OS. Macs are hardware. I wouldn't try to compare that way.
  18. Queso Suspended

    Mar 4, 2006
    I'd still be using OSX. Windows is totally bollocks as far as I'm concerned. It constantly freezes for no apparent reason, and can't multitask effectively past a couple of tasks however much RAM you throw at it.

    No, I'd stick with something that actually works for the way I use a computer.
  19. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    I use Mac OS X because its rocks, its the best OS I've used EVER...not because it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to know I'm different then most people who use computers.
  20. ghall macrumors 68040


    Jun 27, 2006
    Rhode Island
    This is what would happen....

    The space-time continuum will be thrown into chaos. :eek:
  21. TheBobcat macrumors 6502


    Nov 1, 2006
    East Lansing, Michigan
    These "if" questions are pointless. If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.

    Its impossible to rate a world where things are backward since there is a myriad of variables that are changing.

    If you're running this hypothetical as all other things remaining equal except marketshare, then your real question is why to you use Mac OS: because you feel you want to be different and special or because you feel it is better than Windows?
  22. CanadaRAM macrumors G5


    Oct 11, 2004
    On the Left Coast - Victoria BC Canada
    If Windows had Mac sales and Mac sales had window sales

    Then pigs could fly and I would have been the most popular guy in my senior class.

    None of the three are likely even in any alternate-past fantasy.
  23. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    lol, how much in your opinion?
  24. kiang macrumors regular


    Apr 8, 2007
    lol, this is mindless fanboy-talk :p
    so you really think nobody in the world could write an OSX-virus?
    dude, face the reality: there aren't any virusses for OSX because there aren't enough people who even want to try to write one.
    because: whop writes virusses? modtly 14 year-olds with no social life, or 40-year-old outcasts who do not feel happy about what they have achieved in theire life. these kinds of people are jsut not the typicle mac-owners, so msotly, they will have a windows-PC, so they make a windows-virus. the small part of that kind of people who actually are mac-users, mostly don't have the know-how to write a virus that actually works on OSX, because, indeed, OSX is a strong system with alot less flaws then windows.
    But OSX is not flawless, and never will be. creating aan any-virus-resistant OS is jsut impossible, wheter it's a mac or windows-system.
  25. Queso Suspended

    Mar 4, 2006
    People still don't really get it. Apple and Linux don't get targeted because anyone with the skills to write a virus for them is a UNIX head, and UNIX heads want UNIX OSs to succeed.

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