That dude is an a*sh*** and do not learn anything from such loser.
You find a wallet, you return it. You didn't earn it, you found it!
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That dude is an a*sh*** and do not learn anything from such loser.
You find a wallet, you return it. You didn't earn it, you found it!
I found a wallet with $600 in it in a supermarket parking lot. Luckily I was able to locate the owner via his drivers license. Needless to say, he was thrilled and wanted to give me a $50 reward. I couldn't take the money. I just wouldn't feel right. Moral of this story, I'd hope someone would return mine if it happened to me
Back in 1983, I was the midnight hostler in the Croton-Harmon (NY) railroad shops, moving electric rail cars around the shop yard and in/out of the maintenance building.
I climbed up on a set of equipment, and found a wallet on the seat.
I didn't even look inside, just took it to the shop foreman so they could return it to the owner.
The owner turned out to be one of the producers of the "60 Minutes" tv show. Received a nice letter in my file for that one
I climbed up on a set of equipment, and found a wallet on the seat.
I didn't even look inside, just took it to the shop foreman so they could return it to the owner.
The owner turned out to be one of the producers of the "60 Minutes" tv show. Received a nice letter in my file for that one
I'd return a wallet intact with any cash/valuables it might contain. It's clearly the property of someone else who will miss it so yeah.
Question though, is finders keepers ever right?
Scenario: The other day when I finished work I went to pay for my parking ticket in Canary Wharf. A days parking comes to £25.50 or something. At the machine however, I see someone else's ticket that had already been paid for. They clearly had forgotten it.
Would you take it?
Question though, is finders keepers ever right?
Scenario: The other day when I finished work I went to pay for my parking ticket in Canary Wharf. A days parking comes to £25.50 or something. At the machine however, I see someone else's ticket that had already been paid for. They clearly had forgotten it.
Would you take it?
I think from a moral standpoint, if there was a way to figure out who owned whatever you found then yes, I'd say you should make the effort to find the person who owns it.
If you're walking down the sidewalk and see a $20 bill lying there, no wallet, and nobody around, I wouldn't think ill of anyone who pocketed it for himself.
That's like saying it's ok to murder somebody as long as nobody found out.
If you hold that stealing is morally wrong, then taking something that belongs to somebody else, regardless of the location of the item, is also morally wrong.
I would turn it in or just keep on walking. There isn't anything in the world I need that bad.
I found someone's cell phone (old flip phone once) when moving across country at a gas station. They called it from their friend's line shortly afterwards I found it and wanted me to drive 60 miles out of my way to where they were and give it to them.
I said no. Told him he could come back to the gas station and pick up up from the clerk
I will return things but will not go out of my way to do it. Same with a wallet. Most I would do is call the person if there was contact info and have them do the legwork or merely turn in to police station.
I said no. Told him he could come back to the gas station and pick up up from the clerk
I will return things but will not go out of my way to do it. Same with a wallet. Most I would do is call the person if there was contact info and have them do the legwork or merely turn in to police station.
It's not even close to the same thing, and I can back up why that's so.
Murdering someone deprives them of their life, whether someone finds out about it or not - the only variable is whether you get in trouble for it. The part that makes it wrong is that you're choosing whether or not to actively harm someone.
Picking up a $20 bill that can't be traced to its owner does not deprive the owner of anything; they've already been deprived of it. The variable here is whether I pick it up or someone else picks it up. Either way, the owner does not sustain any more or less harm.
Like I said, if it's possible to determine whose it is, then I believe it's right to do so.
Today I would go out of my way to ensure that the owner got it, which I have done several times. But 10 years ago, I was far less likely to return cash that I had found. Even if I had known who the owner was.
As for keeping the money inside, I may or may not have done it in the past ("victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark"). At the current point however, I think it's a despicable thing to do. I guess that morals and personal integrity is something which the individual develops over time. With some people it takes longer than with others.
Well yeah, they lost their $20, and the fact that you seem to justify taking it (without knowing whether the owner is on their way back, or just figure out they lost it or w/e), indicates a moral disconnect, where you appear to associate he proximity of the property with whether or not the property is owned.
It's the same situation as killing them, morally. You think you aren't doing harm, but you are, by being the one that gruntees the $20 is gone, the burden falls on your shoulders.
I think at this point I'm going to have to point out to the person who equates murder with finding a twenty on the sidewalk is saying *I* have a moral disconnect.
Equating them only in the sense that "nobody is looking, I won't get caught, it must be on".
It's stealing plain and simple.
By your logic, it's stealing to pick up an acorn on the sidewalk. I mean, the simple fact that it can't be traced to an owner is irrelevant, right?
At what point does it become ok for somebody to assume ownership of somebody else's property because they lost it?
While I don't know for certain that I can pinpoint precisely where that line gets crossed, I feel confident that having absolutely no hope of tracing the property to the person who lost it is safely on the side of it being okay to take it.
It's from an episode of "The Simpsons" where Bart gets encouraged by his schoolmates to shoplift.
If there is no ID or anything else to identify the person that lost it, I'd keep it. (for example I found a €5 bill on the ground at a club and kept it)
If there is obviously a name or something I would try to reach the person one way or another and return the lost items to this person. If this fails, and the person cannot be found I would keep it (not going to lie here).
If there is obviously a name or something I would try to reach the person one way or another and return the lost items to this person. If this fails, and the person cannot be found I would keep it (not going to lie here).
I don't know how common the attitude is, but in many places this is theft. Taking that money makes him a criminal, plain and simple.
I found a wallet last year here in NYC I actually saw the guy running for the train and it fell out of his pocket. I picked it up and saw the address on his ID and mailed it to him with everything in it. Then just last night while out with my girl she dropped her wallet outside and a guy ran up to us giving her the wallet with everything in it!! We were both very thankful to him