The real reason not to buy a Samsung kitchen appliance is their ridiculously poor reliability.
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HAHAHA You made me laugh on my morning coffee HAHA. I have a very small home, and sometimes I'll be cooking something, running the dishwasher and using the washing machine too, all of which are in the main combined living/kitchen area. Something will beep, and I'll sit there for a minute trying to work out what the hell it was because they all sound the same 😁
Whilst I'd love to agree, could you imagine running your iPhone permanently without any data capability? It may as well be a landline. My point is that, just like the iPhone, they will tie some kind of functionality to the data access requirement so that you won't live with those shortcomings.
I hope apple scripts this into a joke in the next season of Ted Lasso. I remember them joking about having refrigerators with screens.
Which is why my comment began with the words, “I don’t care about a screen.”
I agree, but oftentimes to access certain (non-smart) features on many modern appliances, manufacturers will typically impose a nonsensical requirement that the appliance connect to A ‘network’ even if it’s both obvious & apparent to the user (after the initial setup process) that those features can indeed fully operate as intended (without an actual functioning and working internet🛜connection)
Sometimes that potentially imposed requirement (for an internet connection) doesn’t actually require the connected ‘network’ to have a sustained (& continuous) connection - many manufacturer requirements oftentimes ONLY requite a one-time ‘talk’ to the WWW🛜 (during the initial setup process) which can then, subsequently be revoked (following the setup completion) that’s another typical example of how many network-connected devices operate
Many routers now also offer the option to enable (completely separate) networks that are entirely independent (and thus isolated) from the user’s main network
This feature is designed specifically with the intention of limiting (and walling off) ALL smart home appliances (from the main network) while sometimes allowing for more advanced security options to go even further (than just a separate network) by allowing features such as the ability to provide a ‘tailored’ internet connection that can be fully customized to the user’s wants & needs regarding the extent of internet access that is desired to be granted (to any specific appliance)
An advanced router security feature such as the ability to grant a customized ‘basic’ (but very limited) level of internet connection (while simultaneously being completely isolated from main network) could theoretically allow the scope of ‘access’ to be continuously limited (via network settings) so as to provide ONLY the most basic (but working) level of functionality to whatever appliance features that the user desires to have enabled while simultaneously disabling any (and all) features that are NOT wanted by the user (such as advertising)
The ability for a user to employ this level of customization would undoubtedly require a much more advanced type of router (but is definitely available on some high-end configurations)
One additional loophole that a user can employ to fulfill the potential manufacturer’s requirement for a ‘continuous’ connection (if actual internet 🛜 access in not wanted by the user) could be to set the router to ‘grant’ only 20-minute connectivity intervals (of very limited but basic-level access) to each smart appliance (per day)
Timed-access limits can be enabled (for a secondary network) from within the root-level access settings for many newer routers and can be set to ONLY enable access (for a customizable duration) and can also be set to automatically enable at ANY specifically set time window (ONCE per every 24-hour period)
Setting this ‘limited access’ window to a 20-minute access interval - at say 4am Moscow time (each day) would further limit the exposure of the user’s network (to potential hacking & security vulnerabilities) although, this is most likely a non-issue if the user already has all of their ‘smart’ appliances connected to a separate, walled-off network
Secondary (walled-off) network capabilities are a very common feature on many routers these days. But by going even further, and LIMITING the connection access timeframe to say, 20 minutes (each day) for all devices that are connected to that secondary network, you thus enable an even greater level of security, while still fulfilling any manufacturer’s requirements for ‘a continuous & working connection’
These various customizations could effectively be used as loopholes to fulfill any potential requirements that the appliance maintain a ‘connection’ to (A network) without the appliance actually being online (where it would pose obvious security vulnerabilities for the fridge owner’s main network) considering the lax, antiquated (or nonexistent) security protocol employed by most ‘internet of things’ manufacturers as well as the lack of continuous security updates that are required (but rarely offered) to maintain a secure network
I specifically ONLY use the $149 Apple TV for all of my streaming (& AirPlay) while completely disabling ALL internet features on my ‘smart tv’ because Apple 🍎 WILL continuously provide the needed software & security patches for the lifetime of that device whereas it’s almost guaranteed that any smart tv will not
Thus any need for the Apple TV to connect to a secondary/isolated ‘appliance network’ would be unwarranted:
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My fridge/freezer beeps if the door is left open for more than a minute or so.
No idea if it does anything for excess temperature - but I think it does something (my vague memory from last defrost!)
The one feature I'd like is a time control on superfreeze. Because if ever I want to use it, I want it to be on ahead of time, and stay on after for a while. Too easy to forget both.
But true smart would be a nearly complete waste for me.
Sorry but I am not spending 2000 dollars for a fridge that has a billboard. I will buy a regular non internet fridge.
Um no. I don’t like Samsung and have a ton of complaints about how underpowered the screen is, but I use it all the time to watch videos and things when cooking in the kitchen. So no internet would make it useless.
People who do what you suggest would likely buy a fridge without a screen.
To me a refrigerator is one appliance that doesn’t have to be overengineered and over engineering breeds isssues and glitches. They used to last 30 years but the lifespan today seems to be about 10 years.
Don’t need one more iot from a refrigerator. If I wanted a screen I’d get a nice iPad Pro for the kitchen. It will outlast the refrigerator.
I'd suggest to use an iPad instead. Easy to place anywhere on the sink.
In my kitchen I have a HomePod mini (in a wall mount) for music when cooking. I actually use the intercom function too when everyone has to come down for dinner. 👍
I use an iPad in the kitchen very regularly. Just a few minutes ago to make some cheese scones and start ginger biscuits.
Being a small house, a screen on the refrigerator door would be ridiculous. Any fixed location would be silly. I might want it near the hob, or on the opposite side of the kitchen, depending on what I am doing. The iPad's own speakers are adequate.
Pleased to see the upcoming new iPad mini might be waterproof. Hope it is also flour and sugar dust-proof.
Are we really going to eventually get to life like the Black Mirror episode where they were forced to watched ads for credits and basic living? Useful features are one thing, attention control is another. Fortunately, they still make regular appliances.
They started displaying ads on the TV I bought. I paid the full amount with real money when I bought it. People using YouTube for free are complaining about ads, meanwhile Samsung is displaying ads on equipment people bought. I'm sure I will not buy anything from Samsung again.
I have 12 minis with those exact mounts love em. I don’t want an iPad I have to plug in and charge to watch videos on. I’m am on the look out for a non Samsung replacement that has a screen even a range microwave would work too.
You’ll notice the first line of my comment is “I don’t care about a screen.” None of the smart refrigerator features I mentioned require a screen.
A beep is only helpful if you’re within earshot. The notifications can be quite handy.
I agree, but oftentimes to access certain (non-smart) features on many modern appliances, manufacturers will typically impose a nonsensical requirement that the appliance connect to A ‘network’ even if it’s both obvious & apparent to the user (after the initial setup process) that those features can indeed fully operate as intended (without an actual functioning and working internet🛜connection)
Sometimes that potentially imposed requirement (for an internet connection) doesn’t actually require the connected ‘network’ to have a sustained (& continuous) connection - many manufacturer requirements oftentimes ONLY requite a one-time ‘talk’ to the WWW🛜 (during the initial setup process) which can then, subsequently be revoked (following the setup completion) that’s another typical example of how many network-connected devices operate
Many routers now also offer the option to enable (completely separate) networks that are entirely independent (and thus isolated) from the user’s main network
This feature is designed specifically with the intention of limiting (and walling off) ALL smart home appliances (from the main network) while sometimes allowing for more advanced security options to go even further (than just a separate network) by allowing features such as the ability to provide a ‘tailored’ internet connection that can be fully customized to the user’s wants & needs regarding the extent of internet access that is desired to be granted (to any specific appliance)
An advanced router security feature such as the ability to grant a customized ‘basic’ (but very limited) level of internet connection (while simultaneously being completely isolated from main network) could theoretically allow the scope of ‘access’ to be continuously limited (via network settings) so as to provide ONLY the most basic (but working) level of functionality to whatever appliance features that the user desires to have enabled while simultaneously disabling any (and all) features that are NOT wanted by the user (such as advertising)
The ability for a user to employ this level of customization would undoubtedly require a much more advanced type of router (but is definitely available on some high-end configurations)
One additional loophole that a user can employ to fulfill the potential manufacturer’s requirement for a ‘continuous’ connection (if actual internet 🛜 access in not wanted by the user) could be to set the router to ‘grant’ only 20-minute connectivity intervals (of very limited but basic-level access) to each smart appliance (per day)
Timed-access limits can be enabled (for a secondary network) from within the root-level access settings for many newer routers and can be set to ONLY enable access (for a customizable duration) and can also be set to automatically enable at ANY specifically set time window (ONCE per every 24-hour period)
Setting this ‘limited access’ window to a 20-minute access interval - at say 4am Moscow time (each day) would further limit the exposure of the user’s network (to potential hacking & security vulnerabilities) although, this is most likely a non-issue if the user already has all of their ‘smart’ appliances connected to a separate, walled-off network
Secondary (walled-off) network capabilities are a very common feature on many routers these days. But by going even further, and LIMITING the connection access timeframe to say, 20 minutes (each day) for all devices that are connected to that secondary network, you thus enable an even greater level of security, while still fulfilling any manufacturer’s requirements for ‘a continuous & working connection’
These various customizations could effectively be used as loopholes to fulfill any potential requirements that the appliance maintain a ‘connection’ to (A network) without the appliance actually being online (where it would pose obvious security vulnerabilities for the fridge owner’s main network) considering the lax, antiquated (or nonexistent) security protocol employed by most ‘internet of things’ manufacturers as well as the lack of continuous security updates that are required (but rarely offered) to maintain a secure network
I specifically ONLY use the $149 Apple TV for all of my streaming (& AirPlay) while completely disabling ALL internet features on my ‘smart tv’ because Apple 🍎 WILL continuously provide the needed software & security patches for the lifetime of that device whereas it’s almost guaranteed that any smart tv will not
Thus any need for the Apple TV to connect to a secondary/isolated ‘appliance network’ would be unwarranted:
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That’s a good thought, but no regular buyer is gonna think about it at that level. Only us nerd types think that way.
Even so, at the end of the day even us nerds just want to go home and get a beer or wine out of the cold fridge and relax. We don’t wanna mess around with firewall rules and ACLs just to ask our fridge nicely to please dispense one tasty beverage.
While that makes sense, truth is that in my circumstances it would be very unlikely I would be out of earshot within the minute it takes to start sounding. I could easily achieve it, but usual behaviour would be to only open them when doing something like cooking. Even if I am just putting things away after shopping, I'd probably do something else before leaving the kitchen.