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iFixit: Apple 'Locking' iPhone Batteries to Discourage Third-Party Replacements [Updated]
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Electric cars are a new technology. smh
Cars are an investment. smh
Cars last longer than phones, hmm planned obsolescence the silicone in iPhone and Android phones are quite capable, it is up to the OS developer to support or drop hardware it is arbitrary. Very few features and functions require some new silicone redesign or implementation, most of the silicone hardware capabilities are not even used after one year of release.
Interesting research project for someone who is up to the challenge.
How much do you believe that "Made in China" battery actually costs?, even third-part vendors carrying authentic batteries have profit overhead. iFixIt sells battery replacement and even their have profit overhead. In reality those batteries cost $5 or less to manufacturer and the rest is all profit regardless if you are Apple or not. When other costs of service and support are spread by unit produces and sold the cost is pennies. How much do you believe an Apple Store repair tech gets paid, this person is not changing one battery per hour. Even at $69 or $49 for a battery replacement it is absurd. Most of that repair time is taken up by Apple's decision to glue components and make it difficult to take apart, this applies to its own repair techs. So basically you are paying more for Apple to be cheap and complicate the repair process.
Genuine Apple batteries have this problem. People saying "this isn't a problem because every thing that should work with a 3rd party battery does work." seem to have missed that it's not about 3rd party batteries; it's about if the person who touched the phone has been blessed by Apple.
(By the way, Apple doesn't make batteries; so all iPhone batteries are 3rd party batteries in that sense)
(By the way, Apple doesn't make batteries; so all iPhone batteries are 3rd party batteries in that sense)
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Why don't we pick a day to go buy a new iPhone. Then 7 days later return it unopened, and give the reason as the battery replacement issue. Maybe alert local news that there will be a line of Apple returns that day, They can interview how people are returning their phones en masse over this issue. Wait a week and repeat.
Because if manufacturers provided a one year warranty on the lithium battery, who would buy the car? It's different with consumer electronics that have batteries.
All batteries are consumable. When you are buying a phone you buy the phone and battery in-full, when you buy an ICE or electric vehicle you buy it with in-full. You are not given an option to purchase a battery separately when buying phones or cars. For example there maybe a higher density battery available in the same physics space, one can obtain third-party options so it is not unheard of. In this example Apple and other manufacturers only provide one choice with approximately the same usage hours. If we compare the physics size of the battery and device to other smartphone makers such as Samsung it has a denser battery. When we couple that the Ax chip is more power efficient then we can clearly see that Apple is skimping in this area.
Please don’t bother to being up battery expansion and explosions in this, all manufacturers of batteries experience this, some are overblown to cater to its audience which is understandable and the media loves these stories for ratings.
The gist of the issue is that if Apple included an “all-day” capable battery in its premium priced phones then people would only need to recharge them 1-2 days apart meaning less recharge cycles. However by including a lower capacity battery it forces the user to recharge 1-2 times a day thus expending recharge cycles faster and lowering the battery life and requiring it to be replaced sooner.
Tesla has some of the best battery tech on the market, they understand that they need a good battery to sell electric vehicles. Tesla is an automotive company with many hands in other areas such as the gigafactory, solar (discontinued), power wall, etc. Tesla also makes some of the best electric vehicles in the world (personal experience) however without an good battery the car is similar to its competitors. One goes with the other and Musk understand this and the warranty stands to prove they claim, the problem is that Apple makes great silicone, the problem is that they cheapen the experience (I believe on purpose) with the battery tech. If like Tesla they believed in they product and said, “yes we have and believe in our battery tech, we will offer 2-3 year warranties on that part” would leave a customer without a doubt that this is a company that stands behind they product like Tesla, at present Apple is doing everything to prove the customer is right with they shady practises.
Not sure what you are saying or what “shady practices” you refer to. My max lasts all day, and then some, but I charge it daily.
To that point, Tesla includes an extended range option. Why do they even need to do that if their base battery is “good enough”?
Seems like you are arguing a moot point.
Not sure what you are saying or what “shady practices” you refer to. My max lasts all day, and then some, but I charge it daily.
To that point, Tesla includes an extended range option. Why do they even need to do that if their base battery is “good enough”?
Seems like you are arguing a moot point.
Tesla offers extended range as there is a lack of superchargers throughout the greater US.
Tesla also offers a recharge swap for people who are unable to wait for their cars to charge. Options are good and they recognize the problem and providing feasible solutions presently. Trying to change laws and have the cooperation of many States is a slow and frustrating endeavour and I commend Musk for trying.
Considering the physical size and the efficiency of iOS on an iPhone Max, you should be charging ever 2-2.5 days without worry. If you compare other manufacturers of they devices physical space the inefficiency of the silicone used and AndroidOS, those phones manage 2 days of not more. In comparison Apple is capable of doing better as demonstrated by they XR efforts for advertising purposes, however even that is not doing enough in comparison to others.
When it come to silicone design, Apple raises the bar and no other has caught up yet, when it comes to battery capacity and density in a given form factor, Apple just does the bare minimum. Not a moot point considering Apple does not even offer a longer battery life equivalent to extended range on any of they phones. Ever wonder why?
Tesla provides an extended range option because of limitations in li-ion batteries. People don’t want to stop and spend and hour charging their car in the midst of a trip.Tesla offers extended range as there is a lack of superchargers throughout the greater US.
Tesla also offers a recharge swap for people who are unable to wait for their cars to charge. Options are good and they recognize the problem and providing feasible solutions presently. Trying to change laws and have the cooperation of many States is a slow and frustrating endeavour and I commend Musk for trying.
Considering the physical size and the efficiency of iOS on an iPhone Max, you should be charging ever 2-2.5 days without worry. If you compare other manufacturers of they devices physical space the inefficiency of the silicone used and AndroidOS, those phones manage 2 days of not more. In comparison Apple is capable of doing better as demonstrated by they XR efforts for advertising purposes, however even that is not doing enough in comparison to others.
When it come to silicone design, Apple raises the bar and no other has caught up yet, when it comes to battery capacity and density in a given form factor, Apple just does the bare minimum. Not a moot point considering Apple does not even offer a longer battery life equivalent to extended range on any of they phones. Ever wonder why?
A phone, must easier to charge.
Tesla provides an extended range option because of limitations in li-ion batteries. People don’t want to stop and spend and hour charging their car in the midst of a trip.
A phone, must easier to charge.
If only that extended range option was the default.
I remember recently that Tesla dropped the base option of the Model 3 and included some of the options as standard, now that is what I like to hear.
Apple on the other hand, do you want a side of dongles with that expensive new purchase?
Yes and now a Tesla costs more because it has more included features. Good job Tesla.If only that extended range option was the default.
I remember recently that Tesla dropped the base option of the Model 3 and included some of the options as standard, now that is what I like to hear.
Apple on the other hand, do you want a side of dongles with that expensive new purchase?
Not consumer friendly.Apple does the same thing and people go off the rails, but gives Tesla a pass. Go figure.
Yes and now a Tesla costs more because it has more included features. Good job Tesla.
Apple does the same thing and people go off the rails, but gives Tesla a pass. Go figure.
As you mentioned a Tesla will last years and the battery has a 8+ year warranty.
iPhone on the other hand the silicone will last years but the battery only has a one year warranty.
Apple is a multi-billion dollar company, in comparison Tesla is the new kid in the tech game. Tesla runs in the red but still gives more, Apple is too cheap to even include a fast charger or a 3.5mm dongle anymore.
Right but your ignoring that all li-ion batteries wear down and eventually the Tesla battery will have to be charged more to get the same mileage. Whoda thunk? Both companies size their batteries for the use case involved and Tesla increased the price of their cars for more standard equipment. Not consumer friendly.As you mentioned a Tesla will last years and the battery has a 8+ year warranty.
iPhone on the other hand the silicone will last years but the battery only has a one year warranty.
Apple is a multi-billion dollar company, in comparison Tesla is the new kid in the tech game. Tesla runs in the red but still gives more, Apple is too cheap to even include a fast charger or a 3.5mm dongle anymore.
Right but your ignoring that all li-ion batteries wear down and eventually the Tesla battery will have to be charged more to get the same mileage. Whoda thunk? Both companies size their batteries for the use case involved and Tesla increased the price of their cars for more standard equipment. Not consumer friendly.
No big secret that all batteries wear out, no exception unless it is using some out of the lab technology advancement.
As per your Max usage you recharge it ones a day, most people plug on they Tesla once per day, some more so depending on travel distance the same could be said about smartphone usage, except most electric vehicles have regenerative brake recharging which happens multiple times a day, plus plugging it in 1-2 times into a charger. iPhones do not have some regenerative braking. So in essence the batteries in a Tesla go through faster wear, tear and battery recharge cycles.
Majority of the space in an iPhone is used up by a large battery, in a Tesla or other electric vehicle that battery maybe in the floor, in the trunk or a split combination. I would gather that per ratio an iPhone has more battery space allotted compared to an electric vehicle. So are electric car makers using some magic battery that Apple is not, interesting is it not. Remember that a car has to power al the electronics, displays, cellular, Qi, heating, cooling, etc besides the motor, you get the point.
What Tesla found was that most of it consumers who were considering the Model 3 ending up opting for the options that would bring it to the higher spec model, so they offered up al the options lowered the price from the fully loaded top spec Model 3 and dropped the entry level model. This way people who would have paid more for the options ending up having it including as standard and did not have to forego with the higher spec Model 3. A win for consumers and a win for Tesla as they simplified the production line and ended up getting a discount on parts by offering it as a standard.
Nice deflection. So you justify Tesla’s price increase with additional tech but bang Apple for the same thing.No big secret that all batteries wear out, no exception unless it is using some out of the lab technology advancement.
As per your Max usage you recharge it ones a day, most people plug on they Tesla once per day, some more so depending on travel distance the same could be said about smartphone usage, except most electric vehicles have regenerative brake recharging which happens multiple times a day, plus plugging it in 1-2 times into a charger. iPhones do not have some regenerative braking. So in essence the batteries in a Tesla go through faster wear, tear and battery recharge cycles.
Majority of the space in an iPhone is used up by a large battery, in a Tesla or other electric vehicle that battery maybe in the floor, in the trunk or a split combination. I would gather that per ratio an iPhone has more battery space allotted compared to an electric vehicle. So are electric car makers using some magic battery that Apple is not, interesting is it not. Remember that a car has to power al the electronics, displays, cellular, Qi, heating, cooling, etc besides the motor, you get the point.
What Tesla found was that most of it consumers who were considering the Model 3 ending up opting for the options that would bring it to the higher spec model, so they offered up al the options lowered the price from the fully loaded top spec Model 3 and dropped the entry level model. This way people who would have paid more for the options ending up having it including as standard and did not have to forego with the higher spec Model 3. A win for consumers and a win for Tesla as they simplified the production line and ended up getting a discount on parts by offering it as a standard.
Smacks of bias.The problem with Tesla is trip interruption due to battery recharge, vs plugging your iPhone in either to battery or walk or usb and actually using it while it’s charging.
And I’m glad you acknowledge all li-ion batteries wear out.
Good luck in finding a third party replacement to your Tesla battery after the warranty for a reasonable price. It’s cheaper to buy a new car.
Who brought up safety? Even if you discount that, the second hand market is better for knowing this.
"However, after public outcry, Apple released a software update restoring functionality to bricked iPhones. Following the software update to unbrick iPhones, Apple claimed that the error 53 issue was meant to be a factory test and never should have impacted consumer devices."
If you ask me,,, this SHOULD have been public, not as a test
However, who's to say it won't be in future ? Apple could just just subverting the whole issue NOW to calm nervous-nellies.
If you ask me,,, this SHOULD have been public, not as a test
However, who's to say it won't be in future ? Apple could just just subverting the whole issue NOW to calm nervous-nellies.
That’s why you love Apple so much. And if you love them because their products are are less consumer-friendly, then you’ll keep on loving them. At least your position is secure.
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Haha. And you’re right, the average user is indeed dumb.
Then why does this “feature” enable itself even with a genuine Apple battery?
It is a terrible move for people in countries like India. Believe it or not, here a replacement battery costs over $110. That is an insane price to pay in Indian currency (almost Rs.7,500/-). Comparing the purchasing power parity, the $110 translates to the monthly salary of a majority of India's labour force.
That is why people opt for duplicate batteries and put their lives at risk. Companies like OnePlus sell their original batteries for $25 which includes the service cost. It is just unbelievable the kind of loot they get away with in developing markets.
That is why people opt for duplicate batteries and put their lives at risk. Companies like OnePlus sell their original batteries for $25 which includes the service cost. It is just unbelievable the kind of loot they get away with in developing markets.
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All users, in any country, can use whatever replacement battery they wish. True, iOS will not be able to determine its status. Is that really an issue? Just buy a new $10 battery every couple of years.
But don’t expect your iPhone to know the characteristics of a few hundred different manufacturers’ various models of replacement batteries, whose specs—or more importantly, actual real world performance—can change from month to month, or batch to batch. That’s not a reasonable expectation.
Apple isn't unable to measure the status of the battery, they just don't want to. The service message has nothing to do with the actual battery, it's just a passive aggressive nag that you didn't swap your battery at an official store.
Imagine if you inflated your car tyres an an "unofficial" service point and didn't enter the correct secret code so your car sensors started saying "service your tyres".
But, but, but... improperly inflated tyres could explode and kill everyone, no one but the manufacturer can be trusted to inflate them...
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Nothing in your reply is responsive to my post. Feel free to post whatever crap you want, but please don’t quote me if you’re not actually replying to my post. Leave me out of it, there’s no reason whatsoever to quote me.