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Yes. But it certainly could adversely affect resale value. Buyers may balk at this message.

I’m not going to get as outraged as others here. But clearly a really bad look for Apple. Especially a month before the 11 drops and many prospective buyers will need the cash from their current iPhone to finance the upgrade.
This sounds like a good thing for second hand buyers. If as a seller you don’t like it, pay the extra $20-30 to have Apple install it so your buyer has a guarantee.

Wrong. It tells the user the battery needs service. That is a falsehood that attempts to force a user to conform and pay Apple even more money just so the user can have iOS report the battery diagnostics. Stop defending the indefensible things this corrupt company does.

But it doesn’t say it NEEDS service. Macrumors article was written by someone with no reading comprehension.
 
Thing is.. if it is a 3rd party Battery, why do people expect this feature to work. Apple won't fix that battery under warranty and the function likely won't be accurate anyways with said 3rd party battery in place, as who knows what the specs on that battery are.
Misleading for Apple or any other phone manufacturer to allow it in the past...
^^This - I guess some folk just won't want to listen to you though :(
 
People are free to use non-Apple batteries, I don’t see any issue here.

Also... batteries are kinda dangerous... why would you use non-certified batteries? Is it that much cheaper?
 
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The average user is dumb. That's just the reality, and this exists for that reason.

The message is meant primarily for people who buy their iPhones used, which may also come with a non-Apple aftermarket battery. There is simply no way to know or guarantee the quality of 3rd party batteries out there. If a user's 3rd party battery explodes, what is the user going to do? Blame and sue Apple, and Apple knows that.

This isn't a nefarious scheme by Apple. It's designed to protect them from liability, and protect you and your device from malfunctioning batteries.

Buy $1000 phone, whine about $69 Apple battery, when in reality a 3rd party junk battery done by the mall kiosk greaseball is probably $30-$40 anyway, so you're really playing with fire to install junk for a mere $30-$40 savings.

Good. The last thing we need is an Explode Gate caused by cheap batteries or cheap labor.

I'd never take my iDevices to some shmuck in a mall kiosk.

I am too tired to quote all, but do you have concrete proof that theirs party battery is inferior than originate Apple Parts. Do not forgot all iPhone battery are designed and manufactured by Chinese battery companies anyway.

Also, if you guys read the article. Even if you install a genuine Apple battery by yourself or third party repairs store, you will get this message as well. EVEN WITH GENUINE APPLE BATTERY!
 
If it's not a genuine Apple battery, it is 3rd party. It has nothing to do with coming from the same manufacturer. If its not an Apple battery, it will not have Apple's software/firmware chip in it....unless the battery companies want to do licensing for the software chip....and apple is willing to do licensing. that's why you can move an iPhone battery from on to another and it shows that information.

I guess you missed part where it said this message will appear even if you have genuine Apple battery that was not installed by Apple Store or Authorized Reseller
 

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This is great for the secondary market. When you're buying a used iPhone it's impossible to tell what parts are original. If the battery is replaced it's likely other components were replaced, like the screen. A non-Apple screen and battery means the price would be way lower than a genuine Apple screen/battery. Having replaced a bunch of screens I can say that color fidelity is the #1 problem with non-Apple screens.

Apple should find a way to show all the non-original components. They can, because each iPhone tracks the components and serial numbers of its build components.
 
Not the definition of planned obsolescence.
They earlier throttled the device to get people to buy new phones. When that didn’t work out now they are trying to get people to believe that third party batteries are inferior to the ones they sell which is not the case. Its profit maximisation at any cost.
 
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Apple is charging $49-69 to replace any iPhone battery, that seems to be about the same price as 3rd partys, don't see why you would want to put a $20-30 3rd party battery in a $800+ iPhone. I feel as if most of the public don't know about Apple iPhone repair prices as the price now is just about the same if not cheaper to go with Apple, inb4 I'm called a Fanboy.

Apple refuses to work on phones that have any damage, e.g. cracked screen. Sometimes they also refuse to provide service if they consider your battery is still good enough.
 
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I wouldn’t trust anyone but Apple to replace my iPhone battery. It’s a lot to risk for a small amount of money saved.
 
iFixit and Louis Rossman complaining again...go figure.

3rd parties made batteries for MacBooks and MacBook Pros that would error out, not work, or slow down systems. I don't have an issue with Apple on this at all. I would like to see them come down in price for simple repairs, with all the overhead in $$ they have that's the least that can be done.
 
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The average user is dumb. That's just the reality, and this exists for that reason.

The message is meant primarily for people who buy their iPhones used, which may also come with a non-Apple aftermarket battery. There is simply no way to know or guarantee the quality of 3rd party batteries out there. If a user's 3rd party battery explodes, what is the user going to do? Blame and sue Apple, and Apple knows that.

This isn't a nefarious scheme by Apple. It's designed to protect them from liability, and protect you and your device from malfunctioning batteries.
Battery Health isn’t about whether your battery’s going to explode, though. Good luck predicting that in software.

There’s absolutely no reason why Apple couldn’t both display a message saying it’s a non-genuine replacement and display battery health information. None. The information upon which Battery Health relies is communicated by every iPhone battery ever made. It’s about greed.
 
I guess you missed part where it said this message will appear even if you have genuine Apple battery that was not installed by Apple Store or Authorized Reseller

Something has to be incorrect about that information. Apple doesn’t do any special magic after installing a battery in house.

The process is to remove the screen, remove the old battery using the battery adhesive tab and the material which helps avoid liquid from seeping through the seems, install the new battery, add a new protective element, reseal phone, and run the basic diagnostics on the device. This test will actually always return - battery not verified as verifying the battery requires the user credentials and this diagnostic is run from a diagnostic mode, not from the user OS for privacy concerns.

This diagnostic mode is available to any user, it’s a weird process of holding various volume buttons and plugging into power. The exact steps vary from device to device.

The diagnostic does require an apple certified tech, but any user can request it to be run remotely by setting up a support call or chat and simply asking them to run diagnostics for the device while you have it booted to this mode.

Quite simply, something about what is in the article has to be factually incorrect.
 
Apple is charging $49-69 to replace any iPhone battery, that seems to be about the same price as 3rd partys, don't see why you would want to put a $20-30 3rd party battery in a $800+ iPhone. I feel as if most of the public don't know about Apple iPhone repair prices as the price now is just about the same if not cheaper to go with Apple, inb4 I'm called a Fanboy.
Well, even in the United States, the nearest AASP to me is a couple hours away driving and the nearest Apple Store is even further. There are unauthorized cell phone repair shops just minutes away from me, though.
 
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I have replaced my iphone’s Battery myself many times. Each time something does wrong. One time the phone even caught fire because I squished the battery trying to get it unstuck from the back of the case. I am a pretty mechanically inclined person, and even have the right tools, but my normal sized hands are just too big to deal with the tiny screws and connectors that for the most part have been sealed up for 2 plus years by the time it needs a battery change.
Yes - every person should have a right to repair their own devices and not be required to go back to the manufacturer to get it done.
But c’mon, it’s a $1000 phone and if you mess up, you might incur more than the $30-$40 difference that there might between doing it yourself or letting Apple do it. Don’t think of the extra money as being greedy - think of it as extra insurance. If a third party place or you screw it up, will they just say ‘sorry’ here’s your paperweight or will they replace it with another one on the spot. In the end this battery message doesn’t impact your phone’s usage, Apple just can’t tell the battery’s health - which is fair.
An analogy to the automotive world, most higher end cars and to a lesser extent lower end cars are packed with a bunch of tech and electrics - to the point where guess what , if you replace your battery you need to go to the dealer (or 3rd party that has invested in the tools) to recode the car to tell it has a fresh new battery. Don’t do it and the car’s computer pulls charge from the battery assuming it is old and degrades it faster.

I will say that Apple should come up with an easier way to get this done in person for people that don’t live close to an Apple store. If that means having authorized repair centers where those centers can get the tools from Apple that would be great
 
Three pages before anyone blamed China for Apple's decision. I'm impressed.
I'm not even American and I like Chinese people. Just so happens that most of these shops that I encounter are run by certain Chinese people, I guess because they can better source parts. But they sell dodgy Lightning cables and dodgy chargers, and I've had a bad experience with these cables. Not blaming China, the country for anything.
 
WARNING: What follows is a somewhat tangential (and perhaps rambling) alternate theory in response to the “Apple is just greedy” posters. To those who like only short, fully-relevant comments - mea culpa.

I know most people see this sort of thing as a consumer freedom issue, but I’m choosing to look at it from a security and quality control perspective.

The consumer tech industry is at a tipping point. Multi-billion dollar fines can’t stop them from commoditizing our private, personal data, and nothing short of global thermonuclear war will stop state actors from charging full-speed ahead into the hacking business.

There is no turning back. We will never take our data and our transactions back offline. Moreover, even if we are all woke to the fact that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance, nearly all consumers are incapable of defending against these threats.

To me, it appears Apple is the lesser of evils with respect to this new and somewhat terrifying environment. We can (and legitimately do) criticize their business model as “luxury brand” or “captive user” but at least it’s not “we sell your life for our profit” (again, at least so it appears). It is therefore reasonable to believe they have an incentive to protect their users’ privacy and exercise whatever vigilance is necessary to do so, including implementing a tightly controlled ecosystem for both hardware and software.

In short, I too hate having to pay (correction - overpay) for storage or memory I don’t need when I buy, but might need in the future, because upgrading is impossible. I too hate having to jump through Apple’s hoops to fix hardware that, despite Apple’s excellent build quality, can and does fail. But, I’d hate even more to worry about the more significant problems that come with going the non-Apple route, like bloatware, spyware, potential hardware incompatibility, individual driver updates, system diagnostics/tuning, etc…. No thanks. I'll pay the Apple tax instead and get on with my productivity.

I realize I’m placing a lot of trust in Apple here, but I don’t see that I currently have much of a choice.
 
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Lots of irrational frothing over a software message that essentially says that Apple will not estimate battery health when the installed battery is of unknown origin. As far as I can gather, there is no detriment to the device's function
Except, you know, the part where a software feature arbitrarily doesn’t function.
 
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