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Maybe, but I have no idea how they are rating the 18 hours - way different from other manufacturers. that's for sure. I easily get 2 days on my series 3 with only 83% battery health and I wear it 24/7 to monitor heart rate (health issue). so if 2 full days on an older watch = 18 hours, then what exactly are they trying to measure. It seems they just open themselves up to the torrent of whiners and complainers that are sure to follow.

How are you able to see the battery health of an Apple Watch?

edit: wow didn't know this was a feature in watchOS 7, in Settings > Battery
 
It's not really that big of a deal at all. For real tangible context, a credit card is ~0.76mm thick. 0.34mm is less than half the thickness of a credit card. I'd hardly call that very noticeable.
You are absolutely correct, but it's good to see that Apple was able to make Apple Watch Series 6 and Apple Watch SE the thinnest Apple Watch to date (previous thinnest Apple Watches, the original and Series 1 are 0.1 mm thicker).
 
You are absolutely correct, but it's good to see that Apple was able to make Apple Watch Series 6 and Apple Watch SE the thinnest Apple Watch to date (previous thinnest Apple Watches, the original and Series 1 are 0.1 mm thicker).
Thinnest is meh imo. It kinda reminds me of that moment in time when every phone maker was racing to have the thinnest handset. Glad that one's over since it quickly reached diminishing returns. We did get better, more efficient component packing from that thinness race so there is that. The thickness of the watches was really never an issue imo. Certainly didn't seem to impact sales. Does it adequately perform it's intended functions? Is it's form reasonably attractive? If the answer is yes to both, a couple of fractions of mm really don't mean much imo. If the thinness is a plus for you, that's cool too. Not knockin' it.
 
Maybe, but I have no idea how they are rating the 18 hours - way different from other manufacturers. that's for sure. I easily get 2 days on my series 3 with only 83% battery health and I wear it 24/7 to monitor heart rate (health issue). so if 2 full days on an older watch = 18 hours, then what exactly are they trying to measure. It seems they just open themselves up to the torrent of whiners and complainers that are sure to follow.

Exactly. Why advertise such a short battery life if people believe it is accurate, and use it to compare to other products? Is the low, 18 hour battery life only achievable if you exercise for 18 straight hours, or you have 4G turned on all the time? 🧐


My Series 3, which is now 2 years old, and easily lasts over 2 days on battery. That’s 48 hours. It would last 3 days if I charged it for 10-15 minutes a day (a total of 30 minutes) while I took my morning showers.

I put mine on yesterday morning, and after 24 hours, including a jog yesterday afternoon, my battery is at 63%.
 


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By the looks of it, there seems to be a lot of space. or is the battery really as thick as the Taptic Engine? Couldn't they put in a second battery to give us twice the amount of battery time?
 
Well, at least Apple can't go "glue crazy" like they do on iOS devices due to the small size. That's a"plus" for any tinker-er
 
Exactly. Why advertise such a short battery life if people believe it is accurate, and use it to compare to other products? Is the low, 18 hour battery life only achievable if you exercise for 18 straight hours, or you have 4G turned on all the time? 🧐


My Series 3, which is now 2 years old, and easily lasts over 2 days on battery. That’s 48 hours. It would last 3 days if I charged it for 10-15 minutes a day (a total of 30 minutes) while I took my morning showers.

I put mine on yesterday morning, and after 24 hours, including a jog yesterday afternoon, my battery is at 63%.
It’s likely to avoid legal issues. If they advertised 24 hour battery life based on a different scenario someone would put the watch through whatever scenario that drains the battery in 18 hours and sue Apple saying they were lied to. Companies have to deal with a lot of BS like this and it rolls down to the consumer. Even 18 hours is sufficient for most people because that leaves six hours in a 24 hour day to sleep. If you’re using your watch for sleep tracking just put it on the charger while you’re in the shower and getting ready for bed. Most people shower once a day so
 
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I would like to say that I picked up a watch 6 this weekend, and I almost feel like the battery lasted longer on my every day used 4 year old series 2 than it does with this one. maybe i need to turn the always on display off... i put it on at 6am this morning, its now 5pm and I'm at 60% with little to no use (checking notifications mostly)
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What is wrong with 11hrs of usage with 60% left? That looks excellent to me, especially when the watch is only rated for 18 hrs.
 
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It's not really that big of a deal at all. For real tangible context, a credit card is ~0.76mm thick. 0.34mm is less than half the thickness of a credit card. I'd hardly call that very noticeable.
That would be 3 sheets of A4 paper thick... at that total thickness, between 10.4mm and 10.7mm, is like noticing the difference between a stack of 104 sheets of A-4, paper and 107 one. I vote “no way it will noticeable”.
 
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By the looks of it, there seems to be a lot of space. or is the battery really as thick as the Taptic Engine? Couldn't they put in a second battery to give us twice the amount of battery time?

A second battery? How do you propose Apple implement a ‘second battery‘? Why wouldn’t they just make it thicker v.s. Adding a second battery? Lets take your Proposal for a second, wouldn’t that increase the thickness substantially? Again, the key is, OLED isn’t efficient enough, micro-led is the key to improving the efficiency of the power Draw, thus resulting in extended battery life without having to enlarge the battery, which increases the thickness/weight, which would go against Apples M.O. traditionally of having thinner products.
 
This may not help you but both the taptic vibrations and sound volume are WAY, WAY, WAY higher in my aluminum S6 vs. my stainless steel S4. the reason this may not help is I know in the past some felt the denser stainless steel made taptic vibrations less prominent and since i switched I'm not sure if I'm experiencing that or a change in the engine itself (or perhaps both combined.)

Anecdotally my aluminum S0 seemed more noticeable than my current SS S3. I’ll be going back to aluminum whenever I upgrade. In three years I never got used to the weight of the SS model over the aluminum
 
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Anecdotally my aluminum S0 seemed more noticeable than my current SS S3. I’ll be going back to aluminum whenever I upgrade. In three years I never got used to the weight of the SS model over the aluminum
5 years ago I got an SS watch and I had to return it, as it felt too heavy compared to the aluminum one. I tried wearing it for a while and I couldn’t get used to its weight. At some point I had both versions and I tried wearing each for a full day by taking turns. The SS watch is significantly heavier.
 
I find it very odd that they didn't implement the 40mm battery design in the 44mm version, they could have improved battery life... frankly, there is no good reason to have two different manufacturing processes for batteries in the same product line. I can only conclude that Apple is 'saving' the battery improvement for the S7

(Tim, if you are reading this, we know what you are doing...)

In any case, I got 40 hours of battery on my S6 yesterday, with AOD on and 2 hours of workout.
 
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I find it odd that I can know my Apple Watch and iPhone battery health, but not iPad. Why is it a secret on iPad?

Was looking at my iPad battery just a few mins ago thinking the same thing. I'd also take a reduced power mode, optimized charging too! :p


Loved iFixit's teardown! Glad to see bigger battery! Can't wait to use my watch! :)
 
They just keep polishing this thing to a higher and higher gloss and it's almost sneaky how much of it they don't tell you about, keeping all the focus on the whiz-bang health features.

Because Apple Watch is now their product for innovation before all these improvement filters through to iPhone. That is from OLED, Taptic Engine, Speakers, Battery Packaging, Ceramics, Stainless Steel, Titanium etc.

You cant have leading ledge manufacturing and tech in a volume like newest iPhone. Expected to ship 100M every year.

The problem is now even the Apple Watch are shipping in 10s of millions. We dont know the distribution of latest Apple Watch vs something like Apple Watch SE. If it was 50 / 50 ( Considering the price difference is quite minimal in absolute terms ) that would be 10 Million unit a year.

Even in the best case scenario you cant even put MicroLED in an Apple Watch in 2025 with the current Apple Watch Unit Volume.

And I was hoping Apple could put Solid Battery in their Apple Watch first....
 
It’s starting to the point where I think 18 hours should be improved. Apple increasing the size of the Lithium battery isn’t the answer. What we need the migration away from OLED, and transition to micro LED, which will greatly reduce power consumption, thus providing extended battery life. The S7 should offer some physical changes and possibly a micro LED if Apple has the appropriate suppliers aligned. Apple is stretching the 18 hour battery life as far as it will go, since it’s been offered for six years without any type of higher rating, They‘ve proven they’ve been overly conservative with the battery life without making any real improvements, which I suspect those changes are coming in 2021.

This comment was great. I will be waiting for next version.
 
Same, if I was looking for a watch I would go with the SE most likely as the ECG gets old after using it couple of times and the blood oxygen is great but I'd wait till the tech is more mature.

Yep all these feature additions are great. But to be honest, nothing is useful enough in the longer term. ECG feels like a toy instead of a useful feature. You get excited for a little while, play with it, once maybe twice after you buy it. But you realize you never use it or care about it again afterwards, unless you actually have heart problems.

The OG heart rate monitor keeps being the primary, constantly used sensor on an Apple Watch. I'd rather have something like skin thermometer or blood pressure monitor instead of ECG or even SpO2 sensor. It's way more useful as COVID self-diagnosis. Body temperature and blood pressure are invaluable medical data that I'd like to check regularly.
 
It’s starting to the point where I think 18 hours should be improved. Apple increasing the size of the Lithium battery isn’t the answer. What we need the migration away from OLED, and transition to micro LED, which will greatly reduce power consumption, thus providing extended battery life. The S7 should offer some physical changes and possibly a micro LED if Apple has the appropriate suppliers aligned. Apple is stretching the 18 hour battery life as far as it will go, since it’s been offered for six years without any type of higher rating, They‘ve proven they’ve been overly conservative with the battery life without making any real improvements, which I suspect those changes are coming in 2021.

I think Apple feels comfortable with their 18-hour battery life estimate for the Apple Watch, given that the majority of users are going to be charging their watches overnight as they sleep, making any longer battery life moot.

For users who wish to make use of sleep tracking, they can charge the watch in the evening while washing up and having dinner. Same in the morning (charge it) before leaving for work. Hence the support for faster charging. It’s really about finding a routine which works for you.

Somehow, I suspect that even if the next Apple Watch has micro-LED or some other breakthrough which would result in longer battery life, Apple would simply funnel these improvements towards powering other features, rather than marketing longer battery life as a feature, as I doubt this is a major selling point for their users.
 
I still do force touch on WOS7, how did they take it away?

If you edit a watch face is now working because of long press, so you think you're using force touch but actually you're not.

If they managed to put a bigger battery, that's good news. Never been a fan of 3D touch even on the iPhone, I think I only used it to activate the camera in the lockscreen but we can now long press or swipe. Long press instead of 3D touch works fine for most interactions
 
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