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iFixit iPhone 11 Pro Max Teardown Hints at Unimplemented Bilateral Wireless Charging Feature [Updated]
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Apparently you've never bought a game in the past 20 years.
But they are electrical engineers.
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Arthur has been with iFixit for seven years. As a senior tech writer, he writes instruction manuals for iPads and refrigerators, takes apart VR headsets, and explains why batteries explode.
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But they are electrical engineers.
Arthur Shi - iFixit
Arthur has been with iFixit for seven years. As a senior tech writer, he writes instruction manuals for iPads and refrigerators, takes apart VR headsets, and explains why batteries explode.
Gee, I didn't see him doing the tear down on the iPhone 11. Care to point out where he was during the live stream?
Why are you talking about the live stream? This thread is about the teardown guide.
The livestream was where the initial tear down was done and where the original comments suggesting the cables were for "bilateral" charging were made.
I feel that your logic makes more sense than theirs does. Their findings read more like diverse paths for providing charging voltage to the battery, as opposed to a single point of failure. The temp sensor warning could be anything but likely a collision in the internal sensor bus. I doubt it is normal, or programmed in for something to be disconnected internally while the phone is online.
That said, like them I can only speculate.
Article states "Bilateral wireless charging would have allowed the new iPhones to wirelessly charge devices like the AirPods, the Apple Watch, and even other iPhones."
Could it have really charged the Apple Watch since it does not use the standard Qi? I assumed it would only charge other phones and AirPods only.
Could it have really charged the Apple Watch since it does not use the standard Qi? I assumed it would only charge other phones and AirPods only.
The fact that the new batteries last like 5 hours longer (pretty nice jump year to year!) also hints that the extra juice was for this feature. But I think you're right that they couldn't have it meet their standards, so it will quietly not be implemented.
I wouldn't be surprised if the iFixit team of engineers were watching from behind the camera and commenting through the MacBook or somewhere else off-camera.
Arthur Shi - iFixit
Arthur has been with iFixit for seven years. As a senior tech writer, he writes instruction manuals for iPads and refrigerators, takes apart VR headsets, and explains why batteries explode.
www.ifixit.com
Bi-lateral mastectomy. I those terms it makes no sense. Maybe it's 'charge the battery and charge something laying on the back of the phone at the same time', but...bi-lateral still doesn't make any sense. Dual Wireless Charging? iCharge. There we go.
There are lots of possible reasons for splitting up the cables to the battery.
For example, the iPhone 11 supports even higher charge rates (more current). Having a pair of connections to the battery would distribute the increased current over two connections instead of one increasing reliability.
Apple may have decided to split up the power management to better manage thermals. So instead of a single, more complex power management circuit that does everything they might have placed a simpler circuit near the Lightning port for corded high-speed charging and another near the charging coil for wireless charging and to manage power to the iPhone itself.
I wouldn't be surprised if the iFixit team of engineers were watching from behind the camera and commenting through the MacBook or somewhere else off-camera.
Arthur Shi - iFixit
Arthur has been with iFixit for seven years. As a senior tech writer, he writes instruction manuals for iPads and refrigerators, takes apart VR headsets, and explains why batteries explode.
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Watching from behind and commenting? Interesting the scenarios you'll come up with to defend a ridiculous assumption.
Also funny how the person you linked (Arthur Shi) did the tear down for the Note 10 and made no comments whatsoever about additional hardware for reverse wireless charging for that device.
There's a simple reason for that:
There's absolutely no reason at all that reverse wireless charging requires extra cables. It's all handled through the power management circuit (typically a chip).
Being an electrical engineer he should be very familiar with how power management circuits work, since literally every phone out there has one.
You really think the videos are the product of just the people shown on screen? Do you also think Craig Federighi alone designed iOS 13 because he was on stage?
I'll trust an electrical engineer's opinion over your "simple reason."
Or, Apple did not have enough time after the release of the Samsung phones with reverse charging to copy their design, hence different implementation. They should be able to copy the design next year.
What an absurd comment.
Copy Samsung's design? When Samsung themselves would be using off-the-shelf PMIC's just like everyone else does?
Funny, I haven't seen any "electrical engineer" make a claim about wireless charging requiring extra battery cables. Can you point me to that source?
I work in a related field (designing electrical components for automotive). My comments aren't based on "simple reason" - they are based on my understanding of how modern devices are constructed and the types of power management circuits they employ.
Curious, what's your background? How can you tell if someone describing the operation of an electronic device is telling the truth (or making assumptions) unless you also have a similar background?
Which one does Samsung use? Wireless charging requires more than PMIC. For example, Apple apparently used two more wires than Samsung. Perhaps that was their fatal mistake?
Fatal mistake? Which mistake is that? People believing in rumors about a feature and then using those rumors to paint a picture of Apple not being able to deliver on said rumored feature?
Since you're claiming wireless charging requires more than a PMIC, then please list the additional components that are required and what function they are used for.
How about wires and coils? And, to connect battery, PMIC and the coils one would certainly need more than two wires, right?
Apple reportedly locks in the final design of the iPhone a year in advance (so even as we speak now, they are possibly finalising the design and specs for next year’s iPhone). So you are right in that there wouldn’t be enough time for Apple to copy anything from the S10, but that also assumes Apple has any desire to even do such a thing in the first place.
I’m willing to bet that the 5G will NOt have this - if you think battery drainer was a reason not to implement this then for certain 5G devices will not be able to handle battery drain
now consider not implemented as Apple knew issues with ios13 not properly being GM and with 13.1 just 4 days away it may just be a few updates ahead. Still wouldve been a great selling point.
I still refute this as a larger NFC contact area.
Just my .02, but I had the galaxy s10 and used the charging feature on it. It drains the battery quickly. Very quickly. Although it is handy in a pinch, I’d rather carry a small power bank with me, which I do in my backpack. It might be well suited to charge up AirPods, but lending someone else a charge just murders your own battery.